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#1 May 05 2006 at 7:38 PM Rating: Excellent
Ok, I'm thinking of cracking finally and buying WoW. The other alternative is Guild Wars. I just ran over to the WoW board to ask people who had played both their take on things, and I noticed something. The WoW board has 93 visitors right now. The FFXI board has 328. Am I missing something? Because I thought WoW was the One Game To Rule Them All... have that many people quit playing?
#2 May 05 2006 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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no, more people are on the game plaing it instead of actually sitting around talking about playing
#3 May 05 2006 at 7:41 PM Rating: Excellent
Ahh. Ok, that makes me feel better. I've been hearing some negative things about WoW, and I didn't know if the game was already dying or what. Cool beans. =)
#5 May 05 2006 at 7:44 PM Rating: Default
I have to say that WoW is the shiznet and I dont really know anything about Guild Wars. All i know about Guild Wars is that there is no monthly fee and the lvl cap is 20. WoW is 15 bucks a month and the lvl cap is 60 but will be raised to 70 after expansion. Since Guild Wars has no monthly fee you can try them both. Or just pick one at random.
#7 May 05 2006 at 7:56 PM Rating: Default
Most Wowers specialize in ******** and complain about ganking. Its like its there job.
#8 May 05 2006 at 8:01 PM Rating: Default
Depends on which GW your going to play, wether it be normal GW or GW:F.
#9 May 05 2006 at 8:46 PM Rating: Good
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the only thing Ive found so far not so good about the game is there needs to be more high end game content.but by the time you get up there the expansions should be out soon
#10 May 05 2006 at 9:01 PM Rating: Good
Try WoW,more new content coming soon and no real wait for groups. Lots of players though sometimes cause some issues with lag in certain zones. All in all better by far than FFXI, and I have played both games extensively.
#11 May 06 2006 at 12:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, I'm going to be going against the grain on this one:

If you plan on playing WoW at an endgame level, find something else to play.


After having wasted entirely too much time in the honor system and raiding grind and acquiring the best items possible, I have to look back and ask myself just why I did it.


The PvE is unimaginative. It's fun enough the first time through, I suppose, but even that is in doubt these days.


Why? Because even on a new server, you're going to be playing second fiddle to another guild, or joining them in the mindless farming.


All of the guilds that have a chance at being "The first", or one of the first, guilds to do new content are already well established. They're all full, with a waiting list 100 people long. Even those who are merely the 'top of the server', no matter how far behind they are vs the rest of the world, have plenty of people wanting to join them.


All of the servers already have established raiding guilds. You will not be able to create a 100% new guild that can raid without bringing them in all from out of game. You will, without doubt, end up taking people who quit their old raiding guilds, or were kicked out, or were left guildless when it disbanded due to drama. They will, invariably, explain how to kill every boss that they have been to, which, at this point, is almost certainly all of MC, and most likely quite a bit of BWL, and some of AQ.

Failing this, there are guides all over the net for all of the bosses.

Ah - But what about when they release new servers? Well, the second and third best guilds on servers want to be on top - So they move to a new server. Or a bunch of experienced players from across the game get the message out they plan on making an uberguild from day one, and they end up on that new realm.




If you plan on playing casually - Sure, get it. Great game for that, plenty of fun to be had!





However, if you leveled at a decent rate in FFXI, and will be spending a similar amount of time playing WoW, you will hit cap very quickly.




The issue with the endgame is, unfortunately, the nature of MMOs.



Of course, all of this is based off of my opinion. WoW is a good game - don't get me wrong! But when I play games, I play them pretty heavily, and it's not any fun when you're forced into being far behind guilds who end up releasing strategies for the encounter. It takes the challenge out of the endgame, and if it's easy, what's the point in doing it? Because of the way things work, heavy and medium population realms that were around in the beginning are almost permanently well ahead of everyone else. They had the critical mass to get the endgame rolling sooner, and with the raid lockout timer, and gear being a huge part of things, this allowed them to get a more than healthy head start.





The expansion *Might* fix some of the issues. With level 70 being the new cap, the endgame epics will be better than 70 dungeon blues, but not my an overwhelming margin. This will be the chance for a more even playing field, and we might even see some newcomers dethrone one of the current uberguilds.
#12 May 06 2006 at 1:15 AM Rating: Decent
I agree, I've played WoW/FFXI/GW(non-F) and IMO they go in that order.

WoW+ good time sink, can get things done solo and without a heavy investment in time. the BoP/BoE system helps stifle the economy from souring. overall great for the casual player. BG's rock and are a ton of fun

WoW- crafting system is to easy and leaves you feeling hollow. I love to do that stuff and hit 300 by lvl 41. most of the higher end recipes/creations are kinda crazy to get all the crap for and are not really in high demand (flasks, ha!). partying can get a bit bland as every job tends to do there own thing, less communication between members. Story is hard to get into unless you like reading every quest sheet. BG's can take 20min-6hr's to get in Smiley: banghead

Play time: 4 months (PvE)

Summery: great for casual player, can be almost to easy and can leave wanting more substance.



FFXI+ Great story, makes you get involved and makes you want to move on. crafting system is great as everything can be used in one way or another. Greatest sense of community of all 3 MMOs, not "Toony". Lvl’ing is more rewarding as is most any other accomplishment.

FFXI- oh hell, basically, you can't to shit alone and it can take 0sec(random invite)- days to GET IN a party, let alone get exp. crafting is overly complicated/difficult and everything takes FOREVER to do. basically, for everything you can love about the game there are 2-3 things that make it unplayable. no real PvP

Play time: 2 years

Summary: Not for the casual gamer, if you can handle long wait times that it is a good game, must be a glutton for punishment.



Guild Wars+ Fairly soloable, easy and fun to play. no real crafting system, and no real AH. everything not a town is instance so no competition for everything, even NM's (rare monsters) FREE, no subscription.

Guild Wars- boring fast, no real story, only thing to do is quest. no sense of community and I found people to be rather unfriendly unless they are trying to buy/sell something from/to you. no real substance or feel to the game.

Play time: on/off for ~2 years, (~3 months actual playtime)

Summary: Fun to start but lack of substance or contact with others makes you feel like a RPG, not a MMO.


Everything here is my opinion and mine alone, I could add more to any and all Pro's and Con's but you can get the gist of it form what I wrote. also I haven’t played FF/GW in over 2 years so things may have changed and my description outdated.

Hope it helps, for what its worth, go get WoW and play on Shadow Council with the other Asylumites. there is where you will have the most fun. GL and Enjoy
#13 May 06 2006 at 1:17 AM Rating: Default
I have not played Guild Wars...and having heard that the level cap is at 20...nor would I ever want to....

My experiences with WoW however, have been good

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All of the servers already have established raiding guilds. You will not be able to create a 100% new guild that can raid without bringing them in all from out of game. You will, without doubt, end up taking people who quit their old raiding guilds, or were kicked out, or were left guildless when it disbanded due to drama. They will, invariably, explain how to kill every boss that they have been to, which, at this point, is almost certainly all of MC, and most likely quite a bit of BWL, and some of AQ
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That's a problem I ran into end-game, finding a guild that had people in it with decent personalitys who raided on a weekly basis. It actually took me around 3 weeks I think to find a guild that met my slim requirements....

End game pvp SUCKS if you're a casual gamer, though I played a very gear dependant class so this might not apply to everyone. What I thought once reaching level 60 was that it would be more even in the battlegrounds compared to going up against twinks all my days before then, but no. Now I was up against epic monsters with 100% mounts. Though Blizzard is implementing the .5 tier sets...it's really not helping as far as going up against BWL and AQ equipped players.
#14 May 06 2006 at 1:34 AM Rating: Good
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Not to propagate a thread that shouldn't be here, but...

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Now I was up against epic monsters with 100% mounts.

Raiding has nothing to do with getting an epic mount. In fact it makes it HARDER to get that mount, as you have high repair bills, less time for farming, etc.


#15 May 06 2006 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
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So, on average, how many people are online between the times of 5pm-12pm?
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#16 May 06 2006 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Molish wrote:
So, on average, how many people are online between the times of 5pm-12pm?


Depends on the server. The larger ones will have thousands of level 60s on on each side, while lower pop ones are more likely to only have a few hundred.
#17 May 06 2006 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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No man, I mean how many Assylumites are on their server between that time on most days?

I might just turn back on my WOW subcription and get back in with you all. The whole Smoggy thing drove me away the first time.
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#18 May 06 2006 at 11:27 AM Rating: Default
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Raiding has nothing to do with getting an epic mount. In fact it makes it HARDER to get that mount, as you have high repair bills, less time for farming, etc.


I know, but right when I turned 60 and went to BG's it was what I experienced.
#19 May 06 2006 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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Molish wrote:
No man, I mean how many Assylumites are on their server between that time on most days?

I might just turn back on my WOW subcription and get back in with you all. The whole Smoggy thing drove me away the first time.


what time zone?
#20 May 06 2006 at 1:08 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm just really torn. I mean, on the one hand Guild Wars is free, and it would be a nice diversion to keep me occupied until Vanguard comes out. But on the other hand, you're all on WoW, and it would be fun to play with you guys. Yet, WoW is *so cosmically* fugly, and Guild Wars looks really pretty. I dunno, maybe next time I'm at Walmart I'll flip a coin and buy one.
#21 May 06 2006 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
After having wasted entirely too much time in the honor system and raiding grind and acquiring the best items possible, I have to look back and ask myself just why I did it.
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i know a butt load of top end EQ players asking themselves the exact same thing. after 500 aa points, level 75 and all the latest and greatest gear.......why?

same with any game. if your playing for the golden ring, you will ALWAYS end up at the top, looking back, and asking....why?

if your having fun, what you are playing is the game for you. period.

if your just putting in your time to get to the golden ring......your wasting your time. period.

WoW is very time friendly. ffxi is less. guild wars is less time friendly than WoW, and more time friendly than ffxi. WoW has things to do if your not in a group, guild wars does not, you are in a group fighting, or your doing nothing. kind of like D&D online.

guild wars is like most pvp games, fun for a while, but fades quickly. wow is pretty much the same level of entertainment untill you reach the very top, then it is lacking.

my kids love WoW, my kids do not understand guild wars. so, i have 2 WoW accounts, and one account for myself i use to bounce from game to game. currently playing D&D online, a blast for the last 3 months, but now is kind of fading, like guild wars, since i have reached the top.

waiting for Vanguard, saga of heros myself, will keep bouncing till it launches.

if your having fun, its the right game. once the fun stops, and it becomes "putting in your time" to get to the top......time for another game. there is nothing at the top in ANY of them except.....looking back and asking yourself....why?
#22 May 06 2006 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Lady DSD wrote:
Molish wrote:
No man, I mean how many Assylumites are on their server between that time on most days?

I might just turn back on my WOW subcription and get back in with you all. The whole Smoggy thing drove me away the first time.


what time zone?


Central 5pm - midnight (excluding fridays b/c school suxors)
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#23 May 06 2006 at 7:02 PM Rating: Good
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I dunno. Usually there tend to be a good amount artound 8pm ET or so It stays hopping for awhile and then tends to decrease around 11 or so? I havent been on much lately ( sorry )but unless its drastically changed that sounds about right
#24 May 06 2006 at 7:55 PM Rating: Excellent
Fine. I hope you're all happy. I bought WoW. I feel soooooo dirty now.
#25 May 06 2006 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
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#26 May 06 2006 at 10:14 PM Rating: Good
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Saboruto the Silent wrote:
Fine. I hope you're all happy. I bought WoW. I feel soooooo dirty now.



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