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#102 May 04 2006 at 10:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Joph, I did the same thing in regards to removing autorenewal. let's wait and see..

NephtysWanderer wrote:
For Alla, good business move. Ethically it's your call, but tactically, good move.


only time will tell, if that was a good move business wise. especially, as we don't know sh'it about the financial details.

by the way, anyone else wants to start an independent MMO site?
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#103 May 04 2006 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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Smasharoo wrote:
Wait.

This site is related to... video games?

Seconded. Hey, Alla, what about those of us that don't give a sh[/Crimson]it one way or another, Huh? [Crimson]WHAT ABOUT US?!?!?!?!?!!!!1111!!!


The folks that post and work here have been good to me, and the aim of any business is to make money. While I understand idealism, Alla's got a family to feed and all of Korea to put through college. Whining about sellouts is so.....emo.
#104 May 04 2006 at 10:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Even North Korea?

Alla is a communist Smiley: mad
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#105 May 04 2006 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Even North Korea?

Alla is a communist Smiley: mad

If he were, I'd totally pay for your subscription just so I could fund his politics. RACK free healthcare!
#106 May 04 2006 at 10:58 AM Rating: Good
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The folks that post and work here have been good to me, and the aim of any business is to make money. While I understand idealism, Alla's got a family to feed and all of Korea to put through college. Whining about sellouts is so.....emo.



LMAO...Flea you still have a way with words baby!

#107 May 04 2006 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Renewal Date: 2006-05-24


Good thing he didn't wait a couple weeks to announce this.
#108 May 04 2006 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
I expect that this windfall will make it possible to bring the numbers back. I expect.
#109 May 04 2006 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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if the numbers return, I will renew. I crave them. I need them.
#110 May 04 2006 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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I'm focused on numbers also.
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#111 May 04 2006 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
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#112 May 04 2006 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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Redyne wrote:
LMAO...Flea you still have a way with words baby!


If you like my words, you should see my tongue. Smiley: wink2

Redyne! How you been, baby?
#113 May 04 2006 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Redyne wrote:
LMAO...Flea you still have a way with words baby!


If you like my words, you should see my tongue. Smiley: wink2

Redyne! How you been, baby?


F'uck me that was hot.

RACK that.
#114 May 04 2006 at 11:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Good business move; take the money, expand the services. If you can keep banners off the site, great; if you can't, who cares, it sure hasn't killed KI.

People will complain, people will fret. That's what people do. Show them how much faster and better the site can get - no more cluster 8 problems, no more weird errors when you try to post a comment, no more lag delay on page loads, more users, more data, more updates, better content. Add some more admins and let people help with updates - never knew that Pikko alone was responsible for FFXI changes, what the hell's up with that? You need a few more hands in there. Cut the turnaround time on new data, make that stuff post as fast as possible, be the best site on the damn net for any MMO. The complaints will stop.

People will threaten to not renew premium. Let that one ride on its own; the lack of avatars and presence of ads will bring them back around like it did the first time. I wouldn't even worry about that particular impact. Besides, the ad revenues generated from the intrasite network will prop up the coffers while people work out their angst.

People have their knickers all twisted up over a potential IGE association. Ignore the issue. If you can keep the banner ads off the site, great; if you can get them to stop flooding the site with bs spammers, even better. IGE doesn't need the advertisements anyway, the people who want to use them already know how to find them. Google isn't hard to figure out.


What the IGE parent company is doing is not trying to create a gil selling empire so much as to diversify their holdings. Look at it like a business issue instead of like a bunch of ****** little gamers. They have all their eggs in one basket - the sale of online currency. This may or may not prove to be a viable future market; game companies generally oppose the practice, gamer backlash is an issue, sales are somewhat seasonal, and hell -- some companies are getting in on the deal (like Sony's online store for selected EQ2 servers, or like Second Life, etc).

You can't even guess what's going to happen three years from now. Maybe the market will be much larger, or maybe it will be non-existant. Maybe companies will finally do this stuff themselves, presenting unbeatable competition with prices under what you can afford; maybe they'll find ways to create an in-game economy that is resistant to exploitation in this fashion. It could be that currency arbitrage won't bring in a dime in the future.

But sites like these? These are tangible, these are product. These are going to be good in three years, in five years; just adapt to the changing trends in the gaming landscape, hire some geeks who love the stuff to keep it updated, slap on some ads, then prop your feet up and let the money roll in. Sell t-shirts and stuff. That's a revenue stream you can bank on.


There's no reason to assume the worst from this type of merge. Can't imagine Alla would have ignored all that when making his decisions on the matter -- chances are he understands the business angle a bit better than the crying armchair theorists out there.

I say let it ride, give it six months, see what happens. This could be the start of something great.

(And if it isn't, you need to get out of your chair anyway. Go outside, you pasty fu[gold][/gold]ck - get some sun.)
#115 May 04 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Heres hoping for a couple of hundred good posters with flame proof skin to join the assylum to replace those who are leaving.

This Sailor is going nowhere and wishes Alla himself a big payday and a secure future with lots of holidays.
#116 May 04 2006 at 12:08 PM Rating: Excellent
I don't like it either. As Joph said, I feel a bit betrayed. But, I'll probably just wait and see what happens before I decide to do anything. If all the forum regulars move somewhere else, that's where I'll be going. If you all stay, I'll probably end up staying too. Right now I'm not playing any MMOs, and the last one I did play was City of Heroes, which isn't covered by Allakhazam. The only reason I come here is because of this forum and the people who post here. So, if you guys decide to leave, just tell me where we're going.

But I really do hate this. Someone make me one of those ****** avatards you're all wearing. =(
#117 May 04 2006 at 12:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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But I really do hate this. Someone make me one of those ****** avatards you're all wearing. =(

Any question of your *** status goes out the window there. Always have to be trendy, don't you Bruthie? :)
#118 May 04 2006 at 12:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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But I really do hate this. Someone make me one of those ****** avatards you're all wearing. =(

Any question of your *** status goes out the window there. Always have to be trendy, don't you Bruthie? :)


You were actually questioning? o.O
#119 May 04 2006 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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Just copy one of ours and use it. You've got my permission if you want to use mine
#120 May 04 2006 at 12:17 PM Rating: Good
I feel kind of bad now; I thought Sabo already had a mourning avatard.
#121 May 04 2006 at 12:17 PM Rating: Excellent
Saboruto the Silent wrote:
Someone make me one of those ****** avatards you're all wearing. =(


Custom tard for you Sabo.
#122 May 04 2006 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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**** permission I stole mine from a dirty FFXI-er.

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#123 May 04 2006 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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You were actually questioning? o.O

Smiley: disappointed
#124 May 04 2006 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
#125 May 04 2006 at 12:26 PM Rating: Excellent
Eldy, you're my new favourite person ever. That seriously rocks. Thanks!
#126 May 04 2006 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
I really hope this place stays here. Even though I'm not a forum regular, I really do enjoy reading the things that go on here. Like Elderon's avvy for Sabo, damn if I didn't laugh at loud at that.

Time will tell what kind of changes this will bring.
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