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#1 May 01 2006 at 6:10 PM Rating: Good
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...since the Messicans are elsewhere other than crowding up the aisles with all 15 kids and 67 grandchildren coming along. Yep, you might even be able to push your cart straight to the checkout counter for the first time in your life.

RACK not having thousands of illegals taking up valuable 'Merican space!

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#2 May 01 2006 at 6:15 PM Rating: Good
Who's running the registers then? Smiley: confused
#3 May 01 2006 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Who's running the registers then? Smiley: confused
The Koreans, silly
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#4 May 01 2006 at 6:18 PM Rating: Good
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My personal illegal showed up for work today and mowed the lawn. He was prolly afraid one of the thousands pouring across the borders would take his Y-O-B.

RACK solidarity!

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PS: Thanks for being there for me, Gitslayer.
#5 May 01 2006 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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It's your wife Totem, she can't help but 'accidentily' change in front of the open window. How could I not work knowing that's there?
#6 May 01 2006 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
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Good point, Git, "Senora Totem es muy caliente, si?" Sadly for you windowshopping is as close as you are gonna get. In mathematical terms, it'd look like this:

Spearchuckin' pride of the Zulu Nation = error, does not compute
Mestizo mosquito probiscus

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#7 May 01 2006 at 7:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was at the downtown office today installing some video relay switches for the new DVD VCRs in the conference rooms. We had mexican's march around the building twice, then they got bored and wandered off because everyone was ignoring them except for this one motorcycle cop that was there to protect them from the "angry mob" of opposition protestors, consisting of exactly one old dude with a cane and a sign. Fun stuff.
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#8 May 01 2006 at 7:43 PM Rating: Good
So where did you find the cane so quickly?
#9 May 01 2006 at 11:18 PM Rating: Decent
yeah there was a march downtown Orlando, but just a few miles away from there it was life as normal. all business were open, no shortage of workers and all of my students who are in town showed up today.
#10 May 02 2006 at 12:50 AM Rating: Good
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I am still waiting for a reasonable response to the question of why we should grant blanket citizenship to people who flagrently disobeyed the procedures that people of every other nation must abide by in order to become a US citizen. Plucking weeds, trimming hedges, slinging enchiladas, or any other menial tasks does not confer the right to get their way simply because they can march in a large crowd.

Personally, I have admired the actions of the Texas government where they place illegals on a chartered plane and fly them to the furtherest corner of the Yucatan-- hundreds of miles from the nearest US border (and, incidentally, hundreds of miles from their homes as well, yuck yuck!). Needless to say, those illegals rarely manage to get back to the US. Unfortunately, the Mexican government complained and the practice was suspended. Unfortunately.

The massive drain on the US taxpayer's wallet by subsidizing illegal's education, medical expenses, etc is a travesty that needs to be stopped.

Meanwhile, Gitslayer? You missed a small section of my yard when you were mowing today. I expect you to correct this pronto in the AM, lest the INS get ahold of your name...

Totem
#11 May 02 2006 at 1:02 AM Rating: Decent

Mexicans stink.
#12 May 02 2006 at 1:16 AM Rating: Good
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Well, locating, detaining and deporting 11,000,000 illegal immigrants would cost a lot. Enough to make a big decifit spender like Bush blanche.

Even if it ended up only being hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants by displacing them in their own country (hundreds of miles from the border) you cause stress on Mexico which appparently isnt that great to begin with causing even more people to risk the chance and hop the border.

Giving the ones already here citizenship and getting them paying taxes would solve all sorts of problems, get them integrated into the melting pot and on record. Also screen out undesirables. This should be coupled with the implementation of new Social Security cards that are much harder to fake and tougher hiring laws in order to stamp out illegal immigrants being able to find work.

Perhaps follow that by a slight opening in immigration policy with a tightening on illegals (we boot you to Honduras) all while working with Mexico to help improve the country and bring it in the first world thus ending the drive for people to leave there country of origin.

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#13 May 02 2006 at 2:05 AM Rating: Good
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There's also the problem that legal immigrants face numerous roadblocks and lengthy delays to attain citizenship. Heck, my best friend's family (Chinese descent but Canadian citizens) waited 12 years before they could get citizenship.

#14 May 02 2006 at 5:15 AM Rating: Good
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I am still waiting for a reasonable response to the question of why we should grant blanket citizenship to people who flagrently disobeyed the procedures that people of every other nation must abide by in order to become a US citizen


Because these people now work and live in the US. Their kids go to school in the US, and they are not going to live any time soon.

From then on, you've got two choices. You either keep them illegally, meaning they dont pay taxes, cant contribute to societey as much, can engange in illegal activities easily, but also that they wont integrate well, their kids wont speak good english, they wont have allegiance to the flag (!!), etc...

Or, you recognise the de facto situation, and realise the governement will make **** loads more money by having these people pay taxes and contribute to society, both financially and socially.

Or, you just spend millions of dollars gathering them all, and send them all back to Mexico. But then garbage will overflow on your streets, the buses wont run, the lawns wont be cut, and it will be the death of suburban america.

Considering that all Americans are immagrants (apart from the native ones), I find a bit hypocritical to now say "Sorry, we're full".

When you're blatantly not.

Just look at Montana.
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#15 May 02 2006 at 6:07 AM Rating: Good
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Don't immigrants already pay a number of taxes just by existing in the US? There are the usual taxes on anything they'd probably want to buy, and if they work for most semi-reputable places they could simply have the income tax incorporated into their pay check. Also if they're not citizens I don't think they would be getting social security checks if they're older, so the drain on the government wouldn't be so bad in that area at least.
#16 May 02 2006 at 6:13 AM Rating: Good
If they are illegal immigrants, most of them work on the black market, and hence dont pay taxes. Though they do pay some kind of VAT when they buy goods, I agree.

Still, its a lot of lost revenue for the US govt having all these guys here illegally.

I'm not saying you should leglise all illegal immigrants, but the current system is pretty counter-productive.

Then again, setting-up vigilante groups along the border to shoot those that try to come in seems so retarded and inhuman. I just don't get these people.
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#17 May 02 2006 at 7:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Considering that all Americans are immagrants
Wrong.


dictionary.com wrote:
1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.




I sure as hell didn't leave any country to come here. My great great great grandpappy might've, but I didn't.
#18 May 02 2006 at 7:28 AM Rating: Good
Bhodi wrote:
Giving the ones already here citizenship and getting them paying taxes would solve all sorts of problems, get them integrated into the melting pot and on record. Also screen out undesirables. This should be coupled with the implementation of new Social Security cards that are much harder to fake and tougher hiring laws in order to stamp out illegal immigrants being able to find work.


If we gave citizenship to all the illegals, then big corporations wouldn't be able to use them for cheap labor, which would make them more likely to outsource their companies to India.

I hate talking to India every time I have a computer problem; imagine having to pick up a direct line to India at a Wendy's drive-thru.
#19 May 02 2006 at 8:00 AM Rating: Good
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Bhodi wrote:
Giving the ones already here citizenship and getting them paying taxes would solve all sorts of problems, get them integrated into the melting pot and on record. Also screen out undesirables. This should be coupled with the implementation of new Social Security cards that are much harder to fake and tougher hiring laws in order to stamp out illegal immigrants being able to find work.


If we gave citizenship to all the illegals, then big corporations wouldn't be able to use them for cheap labor, which would make them more likely to outsource their companies to India.

I hate talking to India every time I have a computer problem; imagine having to pick up a direct line to India at a Wendy's drive-thru.


Aren't there already fast food drive-thru's that do that? They just take up the order then email it to the "cooks".
#20 May 02 2006 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Wrong.


Touché.

"Children of immigrants", was what I meant to say.

I guess you could say we're all children of immigrants. Apart from some Africans in Ivory Coast, I guess. But it doesnt change the fact that imigration was what made the US what it is today. That and few other things, obviously.

Stil, this whole question seems to be a case of "lets pretend we cant see the millions of illegal immigrants working in our country, and when we finally do, lets act all outraged and suggest deporting them."

Even though it's plain obvious it would be a disaster if they were.
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#21 May 02 2006 at 8:11 AM Rating: Default
If there was ever a march where I lived I'd be the guy in the back throwing eggs and the occasional molotov.

Edited, Tue May 2 09:12:10 2006 by kamuata
#22 May 02 2006 at 8:17 AM Rating: Good
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Touché.

"Children of immigrants", was what I meant to say.

I guess you could say we're all children of immigrants. Apart from some Africans in Ivory Coast, I guess. But it doesnt change the fact that imigration was what made the US what it is today. That and few other things, obviously.

Stil, this whole question seems to be a case of "lets pretend we cant see the millions of illegal immigrants working in our country, and when we finally do, lets act all outraged and suggest deporting them."

Even though it's plain obvious it would be a disaster if they were.


When do people speak against immigration? People are just annoyed that illegal immigration is taking place, given the problems associated with it.

Also many illegal immigrants take low-wage, low-skill jobs that Americans could have taken. Leading to those Americans who could have been in line for such jobs to likely try taking to crime and such.

I somewhat wonder why you never hear about what Mexico is doing to help create jobs in their part of the world and keep people around, rather than let Mexicans see jumping the border as being a rite of passage and have the country die off.
#23 May 02 2006 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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When do people speak against immigration? People are just annoyed that illegal immigration is taking place, given the problems associated with it.

Also many illegal immigrants take low-wage, low-skill jobs that Americans could have taken. Leading to those Americans who could have been in line for such jobs to likely try taking to crime and such.

I somewhat wonder why you never hear about what Mexico is doing to help create jobs in their part of the world and keep people around, rather than let Mexicans see jumping the border as being a rite of passage and have the country die off


Illegal immigration, especially in the US, has been taking place for ever. It's nothing new.

Second, these low-skilled workers take jobs that americans dont wanna take. They go without health care, insurance, pension, etc... It's not a situation most legal residents of the US would want to have. And its not like the US has a high unemplyment rate, so the whole "They took our jobs!" arguemnt is kinda weak.

And if you think people commit crime cos they cant be a minimum-wage toilet-cleaner, then you're just being stupid on purpose. Seriosuly now. You think the gang problem came because they were out of carpark attendants? Gimme a break...

Finally, Mexico is obviously trying to reach Western standards of living, but its a long way off. I somehow doubt they conspire to make their own country as crap as possible so that all the Mexicans can emigrate to the US.

I guess the reason you dont hear about it is beacuse they dont talk about it much on Fox News.

Edited, Tue May 2 11:06:07 2006 by RedPhoenixxxxxx
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#24 May 02 2006 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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Second, these low-skilled workers take jobs that americans dont wanna take. They go without health care, insurance, pension, etc... It's not a situation most legal residents of the US would want to have. And its not like the US has a high unemplyment rate, so the whole "They took our jobs!" arguemnt is kinda weak.


It just seems as though a glut of labor would lead to depressed wages and general job conditions, where if you didn't have that glut the employers may want to make the jobs a bit better in terms of pay or benefits or whatnot.
#25 May 02 2006 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Yesterday was the greatest shopping day ever.
Probably one of the greatest days ever.

A U.S. without immigrants is A.O.K. with me.
#26 May 02 2006 at 10:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Totem wrote:
...since the Messicans

Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
We had mexican's march

LtGoose the Hand wrote:
Mexicans

bodhisattva wrote:
all while working with Mexico

Not all of us are Mexicans, you racist fu[Black][/Black]cks. Please cease your stereotyping and refer to us by a more neutral term, such as "Brownies" or the ever popular "Lawn Jockeys".

Edited, Tue May 2 11:16:04 2006 by Atomicflea
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