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#1 Apr 28 2006 at 6:40 AM Rating: Good
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Pro-immigration activists say a national boycott and marches planned for May 1 will flood U.S. streets with millions of Latinos to demand amnesty for illegal immigrants and shake the ground under Congress as it debates reform.

Such a massive turnout could make for the largest protests since the civil rights era of the 1960s, though not all Latinos -- nor their leaders -- were comfortable with such militancy, fearing a backlash in Middle America.

"There will be 2 to 3 million people hitting the streets in Los Angeles alone. We're going to close down Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Tucson, Phoenix, Fresno," said Jorge Rodriguez, a union official who helped organize earlier rallies credited with rattling Congress as it debates the issue.

Immigration has split Congress, the Republican Party and public opinion. Conservatives want the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants classified as felons and a fence built along the Mexican border.

Others, including President George W. Bush, want a guest-worker program and a path to citizenship. Most agree some reform is needed to stem the flow of poor to the world's biggest economy.

"We want full amnesty, full legalization for anybody who is here (illegally)," Rodriguez said. "That is the message that is going to be played out across the country on May 1."

Organizers have timed the action for May Day, a date when workers around the world traditionally have marched for improved conditions, and have strong support from big labor and the Roman Catholic church.

They vow that America's major cities will grind to a halt and its economy will stagger as Latinos walk off their jobs and skip school. Continued...


Have not seen much talk of this. Seems after the intial walk outs things died down. Now latinos both legal and illegal will try and halt our economy by walking out of work and school.

Now the work part I get, the school part, ehh not so much. I doubt it will do much except remind us how many illegal immigrants are in our country which is why we need reform.
#2 Apr 28 2006 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
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This is being talked about a lot in Mass. I figure that on May 1 I will specifically go out and spend lots of money. Besides, it's my birthday
#3 Apr 28 2006 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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They're not all illegals. The company I work for is allowing the workers to take the day off and join the protest (without pay) so long as they submit in writing by today that they will not be into work on Monday. I think we're giving them Saturday to make up the hours as well.

Point being that we don't make policy of hiring illegals (there'd be no point since our guys are union and their pay is based on scale) but there's a strong ethnic trend, even among legal residents/citizens to show solidarity with the illegals.
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#4 Apr 28 2006 at 8:05 AM Rating: Excellent
I just hope someone is making a list of names so we know who to deport when its over.
#5 Apr 28 2006 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
why do illegals think they have the right to demand amnesty? To demand full legalization for every single illegal? I mean, christ, when it comes down to it, the first thing they did getting into the country was BREAK THE LAW.

I understand that we can't simply deport 11 million people... but we do need to reform our laws and make it harder for illegals to get into the country. I'm fine with legalizing the illegals currently in the country, ut only under certain circumstances. If they've held a job for over 6 months, if they have not been convicted of a crime. If an illegalcommits a crime, deport them. If they are living off welfare and government aid, deport them. If they are contributing to our economy, let the stay.
#6 Apr 28 2006 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
Thank you for the impassioned, marginally well thought out and relatively well articulated response. Too bad we've already done that and no one cares what your opinion is anyway.
#7 Apr 28 2006 at 8:29 AM Rating: Good
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Seems odd that people ask for full amnesty and such, rather than trying to better immigration procedures.
#8 Apr 28 2006 at 8:31 AM Rating: Excellent
Silly illegals, non-violent protest is so four decades ago.
#9 Apr 28 2006 at 8:34 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe if INS didn't ***** up so much when someone is trying to gain citizenship legally, we wouldn't have this mess.

I know of someone who had all his papoerwork in order and the INS lost it, so he had to come up with the 1k again and refile.
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#10 Apr 28 2006 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for the impassioned, marginally well thought out and relatively well articulated response. Too bad we've already done that and no one cares what your opinion is anyway.



impassioned? wasn't really meant to be impassioned, but whatever...


And why do I care what you want to read? I haven't posted about it, so that's a good enough reason to me. Don't blame me for the fact you can't discern what you do and do not want to read.
#11 Apr 28 2006 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Whatever happened to making your own kid, or paying the 12 year old down the street to mow your lawn?

Besides, it's not like the discovery, settling and founding of this nation was based on a high level of legality. Maybe we should jut open the borders completely; imagine an army of nationalized ******** to rival the Chinese!
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I already mow my own lawn. I'm not letting some brownie kill my rabbits for me.
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#13 Apr 28 2006 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I already mow my own lawn. I'm not letting some brownie kill my rabbits for me.

You don't make your demon-spawn earn his allowance?
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#14 Apr 28 2006 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
Govt. being...well..govt.- we aren't going to see any drastic measures taken. They wont give amnesty, and they wont deport. If there's enough noise to force them to do SOMETHING, then by god, they'll do what the govt. has always done.

And that is to make an underfunded, poorly defined agency that they can throw in the limelight as a smokescreen while they run away beack to washington. And if the american public remains unhappy, why then by god, they'll begin an investigation, and root out the men who are truly responsible. The men from that poorly funded/defined agency who didn't do their jobs right.


sometimes, democracy needs less compromise.
#15 Apr 28 2006 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
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The only certainty you can have on government action is that, whatever they finally decide on, it will be implemented years too late at enormous cost and will not address any of the real problems at hand.

I think it'd be cute if an ID check (for citizenship) was executed at each of these rallies; the right of assembly is guaranteed to citizens of this country by our constitution, which illegals are patently not. I've always been against extending the rights and benefits of US Citizenship to anybody who happens to be in any close proximity to us (such as illegal aliens, captured terrorists, etc).


bleh. I'm way too ******* it's too nice a Friday for me to really care about the plight of the illegals. Let 'em walk. If they impact your place of business, fire them - you can always hire another different illegal later.
#16 Apr 28 2006 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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I will be spending at least $1000 on that day.

F'uck you Mexicans. There. I said it.
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I think it'd be cute if an ID check (for citizenship) was executed at each of these rallies
I don't carry a "citizen" ID around with me. Do you? Particularly in states where you can get a drivers license without proof of citizenship.
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#19 Apr 28 2006 at 11:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Does it matter? The point is that they are leaving Mexico because it is better here.
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#20 Apr 28 2006 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
How could it not be? All of the good cleaning people live here now.
#21 Apr 28 2006 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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Particularly in states where you can get a drivers license without proof of citizenship.

hrm, good point - I forgot there are places in this country that hand out government-issued identification without checking to see if the candidate should legally carry same.
#22 Apr 28 2006 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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The point is that they are leaving Mexico because it is better here.

Except at Spring Break, where the reverse is true.
#23 Apr 28 2006 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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The point is that they are leaving Mexico because it is better here.

Except at Spring Break, where the reverse is true.


I've been in Cabo San Lucas in spring break, I'd like to argue that point.

It's like a college campus, only with more alcohol related deaths.
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#24 Apr 28 2006 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
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I've got a couple of employees taking off that day, but only because they already had it off. The majority around here think that, since we work in a hospital, they may do more harm than good to the community to absent themselves from work.
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Government issued identification doesn't imply citizenship though, only that the state was convinced that you are who you claim to be. And, in the case of a license, it was also convinced that you can drive with some degree of competancy.

Although, in Illinois at least, one of the required documents for a first time license is proof of Social Security number.

In any event, carrying proof of citizenship/legal residency isn't a requirement in the United States and I'd have issues with the police arresting or detaining people simply on the basis of failure to prove on the spot that they are a citizen/legal resident.
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#26 Apr 28 2006 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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Sure, it harkens back to `Papers, please` and puts people in mind of the gestapo.

The flip side of the coin leads to the problem we've got; immigration enforcement has been so lax and so uneven that we've somehow managed to not notice the influx of twelve million or so folks, some of whom have been in the country for years. The solution being presented is to effectively do away with the enforcement at all -- if you're here you're an instant citizen.

Or do the protestors feel they should become legal, but that we should continue attempting to prevent further illegal entry into the country? I haven't heard a lot of clarification on what happens after amnesty.
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