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#27 Apr 26 2006 at 11:13 PM Rating: Default
Who fuc[Darkblue][/Darkblue]king cares? Half the kids will be asleep, and the other half will not understand any of the point made because said teacher is horrible. He has yet to clearly explain anything this year. I really think you're looking too deeply into this. But since you have such curiosity I will type the layout.

In your group of three people, you will draw a company to do research on. You will ultimately trying to answer the folloing question: To what extent is this corporation ethical? You will use the ethics evalution handout to evaluate the company. In addition to the main question, you should aslso find out the loaction of the company (base and branches,) the products they produce or service they sell, and if it is internation or not. Ask yourself: What makes this comany different?

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1. A 5 minute presentation. The rest of the calss will act as investor and/or consumer. You can either take the position that they should buy into you company because it is ethical, or should be way of it becase it is unethical. In the latter cause you may take a sarcastic[...].

2. Fact sheet...

3. Poster representing the most important aspects of your company.

Eithical Corporations Evaluation. (I'm going to give the categories, not specific questions within said categories.)

Candor, Women's issues, Charitable Giving and Commnuity involvement, Progressive staff policies, Labour relations, Envirnomental Management, Environmental Performance, Management practices and Consumer relations and Canadian content.


#28 Apr 26 2006 at 11:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
He's defining right and wrong. He's defining the list of things that should be considered in terms of right and wrong. And he's requiring that students argue for economic action based on those earlier criteria.
Where do you get that the instructor is defining anything? From the sounds of it, he left it up to Goose (and his class) to research the corporation, find out facts about their practices and, from that, form a conclusion on whether or not investing in the corporation was ethical. For an ethics course.

Sounds pretty wide open to me. Yeah, your tinfoil hat is on way too tight based on the limited information Goose provided.
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#29 Apr 26 2006 at 11:29 PM Rating: Default
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gbaji wrote:
He's defining right and wrong. He's defining the list of things that should be considered in terms of right and wrong. And he's requiring that students argue for economic action based on those earlier criteria.
Where do you get that the instructor is defining anything? From the sounds of it, he left it up to Goose (and his class) to research the corporation, find out facts about their practices and, from that, form a conclusion on whether or not investing in the corporation was ethical. For an ethics course.

Sounds pretty wide open to me. Yeah, your tinfoil hat is on way too tight based on the limited information Goose provided.


Exactly. Literally our teach handed us the assignment at the end of the class and said "Have at'er kids." F[Aliceblue][/Aliceblue]ucking prick. Smiley: laugh


Edited, Thu Apr 27 00:35:38 2006 by LtGoose
#30 Apr 27 2006 at 6:15 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
He's defining right and wrong. He's defining the list of things that should be considered in terms of right and wrong. And he's requiring that students argue for economic action based on those earlier criteria.
Where do you get that the instructor is defining anything? From the sounds of it, he left it up to Goose (and his class) to research the corporation, find out facts about their practices and, from that, form a conclusion on whether or not investing in the corporation was ethical. For an ethics course.

Sounds pretty wide open to me. Yeah, your tinfoil hat is on way too tight based on the limited information Goose provided.


I'm blending in information from another thread in which Goose discussed aspects of the ethics coursework his teacher (I'm assuming the same one) was putting him through.

Pile in the information about assignments from that thread on top of this one and I see a pretty heavy dose of indoctrination going on.
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#31 Apr 27 2006 at 11:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well Allakhazam's has been pretty good to me, but not good enough to give a percentage of my savings to someone to invest for me, so I have spent quite a bit of time over the past few years teaching myself about investing. To play the stock market, you need to ask yourself what you are looking for. Are you looking to make a decent annual percentage and compound your money over time? Are you hoping to make a safe percentage you can almost be guaranteed to get each year? Do you want to hit it big and get rich? Also, you need to decide your risk tolerance. Are you willing to risk losing everything for the chance to make a lot? Are you going to go nuts when you check and find that you are down 10%?

If you don't want to ever see your investments drop, buy individual bonds or t-bills. Those are the most safe investments. For the basic investor who just wants to make a decent percentage off the stock market and doesn't want to take big risks, think Vanguard index funds. The S&P 500 index fund has beaten 75% of all other funds over time and has a very low fee basis, so that your earnings go to you and not some bad investment person. If you want to just put money somewhere and forget about it, then go to Vanguard and check out their funds and pick a balance between small, mid and large cap funds, or just pick one of their lifestyle finds like the Star fund and keep it there. You will not do as well as some riskier funds, but you will get a safe investment that will make a steady income for a low fee.

If you want to be risky, then you need to spend time doing research. I've actually been pretty good at picking out stocks that are undervalued. Part of the secret is just having a feel for it. But basically I look for companies that have good and steady management and a solid product that have just been unappreciated for some reason by Wall Street. Many times you can find stocks that have been dragged down by bad quarters or weak sectors that should otherwise be strong and pick them up and ride them.

One thing to keep in mind when trading stocks is that if you sell a stock within a year of when you buy it, it is normal income and taxed at your standard rate, which can be as much as 32%. However, if you hold onto a stock for a year, selling it is a capital gain and only taxed at 15%. That doesn't mean don't sell a falling stock to save taxes, but it does mean you should keep a stock though a year if you can.

If you really want to learn about investing, watch "Mad Money" on MSNBC, and buy Jim Cramer's book. The guy's amazing, and a lot of what I was doing kind of instinctively he was recommending in his book in a far better way than I can ever explain it.
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#32 Apr 29 2006 at 9:11 AM Rating: Default
stocks are rolling the dice. no guarentees.

the best coarse of action is to hedge your bets and buy a mutual fund with a long record of stability. over the long run, it will be safer and probably grow at a steady rate.

banking on investing your self for your future is rolling the dice. no guarenttes, risking everything with every purchase and sale. might as well as play poker with it. not to mention all the money you will loose in transaction fees.

if its just fun money, go ahead. some people go to the dog track, some people buy and sell stocks online. the risk is the same.
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