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#52 Apr 17 2006 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
Elderon the Wise wrote:
shadomen the Brilliant wrote:
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Whoosh. God you are thick.


I am not going to get into a flame war with you Elderon. Even if I win, oh Elderon the Wise, I still lose because of rate-downs. Drop the rate down thing and I will gladly engage you in a normal debate. Until then, go F*ck a Smiley: goat

BTW, the whole Meliana gang-bang was extremely disrespectful. Aren't you married?
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#53 Apr 17 2006 at 8:03 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
niobia the Fussy wrote:
If they can establish that the childs location ie address can be taken off the IP (which someone posting in the thread did do)
Unless your argument is that the kid sleeps in a filing cabinet drawer at the Sprint DSL switching office, no they didn't. That was the only address given. ****, someone else even posted that the IP wasn't pingable meaning that it was probably dynamic so (F) wouldn't even apply.

Come on now, you keep saying Kao broke the law. Over and over you've said so. Give me the exact law already that was broken. Or else at least STFU about it.

Edited, Mon Apr 17 20:59:21 2006 by Jophiel


Easy! Cyber Harassment - the official charge would be Use of a Telecommunications Device (the internet) with Intent to Annoy, Abuse, Threaten or Harass.


Kaolian wrote:
Please feel free to do your worst to IP address XX.XX.XXX.22, which belongs to Mr. Ragnaros.



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AZ 13-2921. Harassment; classification; definition

A. A person commits harassment if, with intent to harass or with knowledge that the person is harassing another person, the person:

1. Anonymously or otherwise communicates or causes a communication with another person by verbal, electronic, mechanical, telegraphic, telephonic or written means in a manner that harasses.

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The legislation, which covers only interstate communications, provides for penalties of up to two years in prison and an unspecified fine.




Edited, Mon Apr 17 21:11:52 2006 by niobia
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So grow up folks and don't post anything you don't want your child to read. Doesn't matter if they are in diapers or adults, if it can upset them or you then it shouldn't be posted.
#54 Apr 17 2006 at 8:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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So which party do you think lives in Arizona?
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#55 Apr 17 2006 at 8:07 PM Rating: Good
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shadomen the dumbcnut wrote:
BTW, the whole Meliana gang-bang was extremely disrespectful. Aren't you married?
The green monster strikes again. Shadowmen would vote for Bush if he was old enough.
#56 Apr 17 2006 at 8:07 PM Rating: Good
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A counter-claim maybe, but you will note that the offended Ragnaros did start it. Because he's a meanie.
#57 Apr 17 2006 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
Elderon the Wise wrote:
shadomen is better than Elderon wrote:
BTW, the whole Meliana gang-bang was extremely disrespectful. Aren't you married?
The green monster strikes again. Shadowmen would vote for Bush if he was old enough.


Elderon, why didn't you quote my whole post. Because I was right. You WERE disrespectful to Meliana.

BTW, I am 31 and it spelled shadomen. Learn how to read, stupid. Oh ya, I noticed the two ratedowns already. I am also prepared for a third one after this post.

See, that is your only defense, the ratedown. The ratedown hides the fact that you are a ****** poster who has ridden on the coat tails of quality Asylum posters.

Edited, Mon Apr 17 21:14:05 2006 by shadomen

Edited, Mon Apr 17 21:30:01 2006 by shadomen
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#58 Apr 17 2006 at 8:13 PM Rating: Default
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Elderon the Wise wrote:
shadomen the dumbcnut wrote:
BTW, the whole Meliana gang-bang was extremely disrespectful. Aren't you married?
The green monster strikes again. Shadowmen would vote for Bush if he was old enough.


/hijack
I used to be very probush but this whole illegal immigration situation has gotten completly out of hand. We have people doing the right thing to be able to immigrate her and yet we are going to reward people doing the wrong thing to immigrate here. Where are these free handouts coming from? How can he he just stand there and not do anything....

what was I thinking when i voted for him?
/hijack off

Ragnaros behavior was cause for bannination and having his ISP contacted.
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ElneClare wrote:
So grow up folks and don't post anything you don't want your child to read. Doesn't matter if they are in diapers or adults, if it can upset them or you then it shouldn't be posted.
#59 Apr 17 2006 at 8:14 PM Rating: Decent
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LAWL MELIANA IS A *****!!!!!!
#60 Apr 17 2006 at 8:16 PM Rating: Good
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niobia the Fussy wrote:

Ragnaros behavior was cause for bannination and having his ISP contacted.


And under the broad definition given, I believe being told over the internet to bone your mother is internet harrassment. I don't know what that law is for, but it's frivolous.
#61 Apr 17 2006 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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shadoWmAn wrote:
Elderon, why didn't you quote my whole post. Because I was right. You WERE disrespectful to Meliana.
So sorry I left you out. Now be a nice boy and bend over. I have a nice hot poker I know you would like deep in the recesses of your bowels. I'll bring the video camera and motor oil. It will be great fun.

shadoWmAn wrote:
BTW, I am 31 and it spelled shadomen. Learn how to read, stupid.
You are now shadoWmAn beacuse I said so.
shadoWmAn wrote:
Oh ya, I noticed the two ratedowns already. I am also prepared for a third one after this post.
Good. I also rub my nipples while rating you down. Would you like some pics?

shadoWmAn wrote:
See, that is your only defense, the ratedown. The ratedown hides the fact that you are a ****** poster who has ridden on the coat tails of quality Asylum posters.
Bodhi, dat j00? Smiley: lol
Being a ****** asylum poster is better than being a bottom of the barrel OOT poster anyday.

You fail at teh trollzing.
#62 Apr 17 2006 at 8:22 PM Rating: Default
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Barkingturtle wrote:
niobia the Fussy wrote:

Ragnaros behavior was cause for bannination and having his ISP contacted.


And under the broad definition given, I believe being told over the internet to bone your mother is internet harrassment. I don't know what that law is for, but it's frivolous.


It is from what i can see a rather broad law considering that losing ones temper to a child over the internet falls under the same catagory as the true offenders, the ones actually preying upon children.

I don't believe Kaolians intention was to be a predator so much as him losing his temper.
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ElneClare wrote:
So grow up folks and don't post anything you don't want your child to read. Doesn't matter if they are in diapers or adults, if it can upset them or you then it shouldn't be posted.
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Barkingturtle wrote:
And under the broad definition given, I believe being told over the internet to bone your mother is internet harrassment. I don't know what that law is for, but it's frivolous.
The actual Federal statute (as opposed to random Arizona laws) is indeed extremely vague and poorly worded. Under it, every single person on this forum I can think of would be guilty.

The reality is that the law has only been applied to a single case of internet harassment and that was a guy who spent two years sending hundreds, if not thousands, of harassing faxes and e-mails to a woman, started a website devoted to hating her, spoofed her em-mail to send **** to her co-workers, etc.

Nothing even remotely like posting a dynamic and worthless IP number. But if Niobia wants to live in her Kao hate-fantasy land, I guess there's no helping intentional ignorance.
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#64 Apr 17 2006 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
Barkingturtle wrote:
niobia the Fussy wrote:

Ragnaros behavior was cause for bannination and having his ISP contacted.


And under the broad definition given, I believe being told over the internet to bone your mother is internet harrassment. I don't know what that law is for, but it's frivolous.


I actually think they made the law vague so the government could prosecute who they feel they need to. I am not sure Kao falls in that catagory...
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#65 Apr 17 2006 at 8:25 PM Rating: Default
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shadomen the Brilliant wrote:
Barkingturtle wrote:
niobia the Fussy wrote:

Ragnaros behavior was cause for bannination and having his ISP contacted.


And under the broad definition given, I believe being told over the internet to bone your mother is internet harrassment. I don't know what that law is for, but it's frivolous.


I actually think they made the law vague so the government could prosecute who they feel they need to. I am not sure Kao falls in that catagory...


Any of of the posters on Allakhazam could at one point or another.
Doesn't this somehow violate freedom of speech?

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ElneClare wrote:
So grow up folks and don't post anything you don't want your child to read. Doesn't matter if they are in diapers or adults, if it can upset them or you then it shouldn't be posted.
#66 Apr 17 2006 at 8:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Another response to my thread on the other forum asking for information:

Anyone who thinks his IP address is ever private is completely deluded about how the Internet works and, in a perfect world, would get laughed out of court if he ever tried to testify as to matters involving computer networks. Your computer's IP address is one piece of information that must be known to outside computers and you, in general, have no control over what those computers will do with it.

The plus side is, as Shagnasty said, an IP address isn't all that personal in any event. Generally, the furthest it can be traced back is to a pool of addresses assigned to a specific ISP. You need a subpoena to get the ISP's records as to which address was assigned to which customer at which times. Some people run things like websites out of their homes and you can trace back the IP addresses of the computers hosting their websites back to their homes, but that still doesn't give you anything like a street address. The best you can do on an IP address alone is the town.
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#67 Apr 17 2006 at 8:29 PM Rating: Good
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Joph has been getting advice from someone on another forum who goes by the name Shagnasty, I think we should all feel two-timed.
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Smiley: laughSmiley: laughSmiley: laughSmiley: laugh

Cyber stalker! I'm going to have you arrested for giving out that I was on other forums! Smiley: mad

So, Niobia, so far we've determined that the IP address doesn't violate the Child Internet Protection Act and it doesn't constitute as Internet Harassment in any meaningful way under the Federal statutes. Are we ready to give up the "Kaolian gave out a childs IP address which is against the law." dog and pony show yet and admit that we were wrong or are you eventually going to cough up a real law? And laws from a state that neither party resides in don't count.
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#69 Apr 17 2006 at 8:32 PM Rating: Good
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Joph has been getting advice from someone on another forum who goes by the name Shagnasty, I think we should all feel two-timed.
That's hawt.
#70 Apr 17 2006 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
Elderon the Wise wrote:
shadoWmAn wrote:
Elderon, why didn't you quote my whole post. Because I was right. You WERE disrespectful to Meliana.
So sorry I left you out. Now be a nice boy and bend over. I have a nice hot poker I know you would like deep in the recesses of your bowels. I'll bring the video camera and motor oil. It will be great fun.

shadoWmAn wrote:
BTW, I am 31 and it spelled shadomen. Learn how to read, stupid.
You are now shadoWmAn beacuse I said so.
shadoWmAn wrote:
Oh ya, I noticed the two ratedowns already. I am also prepared for a third one after this post.
Good. I also rub my nipples while rating you down. Would you like some pics?

shadoWmAn wrote:
See, that is your only defense, the ratedown. The ratedown hides the fact that you are a ****** poster who has ridden on the coat tails of quality Asylum posters.
Bodhi, dat j00? Smiley: lol
Being a ****** asylum poster is better than being a bottom of the barrel OOT poster anyday.

You fail at teh trollzing.


No intelligent or original comebacks here at all. Just the same crap you post in the Asylum time and time again. Let me some up 99.9% of your Asylum posts:

Elderon the ***-kisser wrote:
I rub my nipples, I rate you down, I want a gangbang, anyone who is not part of the Asylum sucks, don't get all /butthurt & drink bleach and die *****


That's some quality sh*t there.

Dude, you failz at teh intewebz and life
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#71 Apr 17 2006 at 8:38 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
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Cyber stalker! I'm going to have you arrested for giving out that I was on other forums! Smiley: mad

So, Niobia, so far we've determined that the IP address doesn't violate the Child Internet Protection Act and it doesn't constitute as Internet Harassment in any meaningful way under the Federal statutes. Are we ready to give up the "Kaolian gave out a childs IP address which is against the law." dog and pony show yet and admit that we were wrong or are you eventually going to cough up a real law? And laws from a state that neither party resides in don't count.


Never!
Smiley: lol
Hey I did my studies at UofA so sue me if I'm comfortable with Arizona.

You haven't proven that the IP address doesn't violate the Child Protection Act. Hearsay and opinion isn't factual evidence. Kaolian willfully gave out the IP address and encouraged the forum to "have at it" - a willful and destructive measure that does constitute as Cyber Harassment. However , on your side, we niether have evidence to support that this was more than a one time thing and it would appear by Ragneros "PM" that kaolian posted, that kaolian was instigated.

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ElneClare wrote:
So grow up folks and don't post anything you don't want your child to read. Doesn't matter if they are in diapers or adults, if it can upset them or you then it shouldn't be posted.
#72 Apr 17 2006 at 8:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Elderon the ***-kisser wrote:
I rub my nipples, I rate you down, I want a gangbang, anyone who is not part of the Asylum sucks, don't get all /butthurt & drink bleach and die *****



Eldy gets all the sigs.

#73 Apr 17 2006 at 8:40 PM Rating: Good
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shadoWmAn the Brilliant wrote:
That's some quality sh*t there.

Too bad I wasted it on you. I'll have you know I have never posted about rubbing my nipples on here before.

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Dude, you failz at teh intewebz and life
Asylum wannabe much? Smiley: lol

Now I'm putting on my chaps, vest and leather thong. I'll be right back with the leather ties and candles. Don't go anywhere.
#74 Apr 17 2006 at 8:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't need to prove that it doesn't. YOU need to prove that it does. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

Given that the IP address fits none of the criteria, only identifies the town of the DSL provider and wasn't even pingable, I doubt you'd find a judge in the land who'd say it constituted "personal information". The sole "cyber harassment" law cited (which was by me since your cite was worthless) would include **** near any action and has absolutely no precedent in what you're claiming.

In other words, you're full of sh[Aqua][/Aqua]it.

Edited, Mon Apr 17 21:42:53 2006 by Jophiel
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#75 Apr 17 2006 at 8:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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niobia the Fussy wrote:
Hearsay and opinion isn't factual evidence.


Well see typically when you're accusing someone of committing a crime the burden of proof lies on you, not the accused. By typically I mean always.
#76 Apr 17 2006 at 8:43 PM Rating: Good
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Elderon the ***-kisser wrote:
I rub my nipples, I rate you down, I want a gangbang, anyone who is not part of the Asylum sucks, don't get all /butthurt & drink bleach and die *****



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