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Hah! You really put the "jerk" in kneejerk, don'tcha...?

Hey, it's ok if you hate Mexicans. It actually gives you some much needed diversity from just hating blacks and gays.

Hmmm... I favor some form of amnesty process for those currently living illegally in the US, and an ongoing guest worker program to allow future Mexican laborers to obtain work in the US legally, but this means I somehow hate Mexicans?

I'm curious what kind of bizaro moral compass you operate under.

No I'm "Stating" that it is racist
So why make any reference to their immigrant status? How am I not to infer an assumption that US born law-breakers are a different kettle of fish?

And before you leap up and state that "illegal immigration" isn law breaking per se, re-read the OP and see how it looks.

Dolt

When immigration comes up I always hear the same sets of arguments.

"Why do we allow Canadians to come across the border freely?"
"Why is Canada immigration a non-issue when Mexico and Cuba are?"
"Shouldn't immigration be standardized regardless of original nationality?"


Why Canada is not part of the immigration issue. Contrary to what most want to believe it has nothing to do with the fact that most Canadians are white. It does have a lot more to do with the fact that Canada isn't dirt poor. Canada has many of the same imports/exports as the United States. Which only makes sense that the US and Canada compliment each other. It doesn't just stop at economics. Canada and the US compliment each other on many different mediums as well.
With that successful government that Canada has, comes many other factors, the most obvious, Canadians don't want to leave Canada. Much like Americans don't want to leave America. Naturally I am speaking in a very general way. If this were not fact, then you would see reports of a Canadian-American/American-Canadian immigration problems.

With Mexico, the government is unsuccessful, economy is poor, health care is poor, education is poor, only a small few get to enjoy the things the average Joe in the US or Canada take advantage of on a day to day basis. Herein lies the difference, Mexicans want to leave Mexico. There is a problem though. There is no money in allowing Mexicans to come into the US. The poor conditions of border towns in the US are a testament to this.

America never was, and was never intended to be the worlds economic hospital. It is not a dumping ground for other countries to fix their economic problem. It is not about race, it's about money. Simply put, Mexico doesn't bring anything to the table, and America is supposed to just feed them? In the end tax payers are the ones who cover the bill while our own education system is dwindling, among other things.

While this immigration goes near unchecked, as the current action against illegal immigration is no where near where it should be, we provide welfare at the same time. So then it goes from poor, uneducated or sub-par educated, non-English speaking immigrants not wanting to work as old' Uncle Sam is willing to pay out welfare. For as much as I love my job, I would still rather sit at home and enjoy my family. Who wouldn't? I completely sympathize. Personally I believe welfare should be liquidated and rebuilt to aid only the disabled, possibly full time students, and the elderly. Everyone else, get off your *** and make a buck.

Unless, the illegal immigration system changes dramatically, or other government programs change it will only get worse. Yes it should be hard to become a citizen of the United States. There is talk of a federal law being proposed that would change the crime of hiring an illegal immigrant from a misdemeanor to a felony, which would definitely discourage most people not to employ them. Another inherent problem is that if you give birth to a child in the US you automatically have a nice anchor to stay in the US. This has to change.

I have no solution. Nor do I have a really strong opinion except to not adopt genocide (duh) as a solution.

However, everything I have heard is that the employers *want* illegal immegrants because they do jobs no one else wants: for example picking strawberries, bent and the waist all day, making about US$9/hour. Making (order of) 10 million people legal (guest worker or no) is just a stopgap solution at best. These people will move up the ladder and demand and get better jobs. Yet another desperate horde will need to be found to replace them. Likely these people will also come illegally. I suppose this would be the reason for temporary guest workers: constant turnover keeps wages low?

If employment laws were enforced the money collected from the fines alone would put a dent in the defecit. However, huge sectors of the economy would get hit hard. Also, apparently the documents from the last (Bush era? Clinton era?) amnesty are insanely easy to forge. Any better solution will require vastly improved documents and vastly superior enforcement - both cost money and we can't even decide who is going to do it (state vs. federal).