Forum Settings
       
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

Will there ever be another Stanley Kubrick?Follow

#1 Apr 13 2006 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
Seriously, is anyone one ever going to be able to put out quality movies like Kubrick? If anyone specifically has a suggestion that would be great. I can not seriously think of anyone making another 2001: A Space Odyssey or A Clockwork Orange.

#2 Apr 13 2006 at 10:09 PM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
The ladyfriend once mentioned having never seen 2001. I told her she really only needed to see the first few minutes with the monkeys and then the HAL malfunction scene to understand every cultural reference ever made to it. The rest is just really long filler.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#3 Apr 13 2006 at 10:10 PM Rating: Default
80% of the people I know think that 2001 is boring, I agree.
My personal favorite Kubrick movie is Full Metall Jacket, and he directed 5-6 brilliant movies too(Clockwork Orange included).
In my opinion movies and music share the same problem and that is total and utter commercialization. Most dominant trademark among young directors is MTV-style, it can work ok (Fight Club) but in most cases it's pure director jerk-off to conceal his lack of story-telling. He uses 10 second scenes which leave people confused, 'couse movie loses it's 1.5 hour form and becomes 100 10 second parts. Most of these movies are consumable but fail in delivering any meaningfull plot or acting.
If Kubrick was alive now and young maybe he would newer made his great works becouse nobody would fund him for, for example 2001, maybe some new Kubrick or Scorsese wait their shot and judging by the crap that comes from Hollywood I really don't doubt that they would come.
P. T. Anderson is an example of great young director, his work kinda reminds of Kubrick's.
#4 Apr 13 2006 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
Imaginary Friend
*****
16,112 posts
I don't know,

but I just saw the scene in ST:NG where Data is on the holodeck playing poker with Newton, Einstein, and Hawking.
Quote:

Data: "You see, Sir Isaac, the joke depends on an understanding of the relativistic curvature of space-time. If two non-inertial reference frames are in relative motion--"

Newton: "Do not patronize me, sir, I invented physics!
The day the apple fell on my head was the most momentous day in the history of science."


Hawking: "Not the apple story again..."

Data: "That story is generally believed to be apocryphal,"

Newton: What!? "How dare you!"



Smiley: laugh

Edited, Fri Apr 14 00:09:07 2006 by Kelvyquayo
____________________________
With the receiver in my hand..
#5 Apr 13 2006 at 10:32 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
****
5,677 posts
Kubrick made some true classics, a few of which are on my own personal top 20 list.

Full Metal Jacket

The Shining

A Clockwork Orange

2001: A Space Odyssey



Then there's Barry Lindon, Dr. Strangeglove, Spartacus, etc.

But in the end, I think Francis Ford Coppola edges him out as a great movie maker. Speilberg too, maybe.
#6 Apr 13 2006 at 11:33 PM Rating: Good
Imaginary Friend
*****
16,112 posts
Quote:
Einstein: The uncertainty principle will not help you now, Stephen. All the quantum fluctuations in the universe won't change the cards in your hands. You are bluffing and you will lose."

Hawking: "Wrong again, Albert."


Smiley: lol
____________________________
With the receiver in my hand..
#7 Apr 14 2006 at 1:58 AM Rating: Good
****
6,471 posts
A clockwork orange was a peculiar movie, but I couldn't find much of Kubrick's influence within it that set it apart from the book. I don't give the director much credit for just transcribing a movie and keeping most of the novel's power intact.

Typical of Kubrick to over-sexualize the theme of the movie in that one, as usual. I didn't like it that much.
#8 Apr 14 2006 at 1:59 AM Rating: Good
Tracer Bullet
*****
12,636 posts

Will there ever be another Hitchcock?


#9 Apr 14 2006 at 7:30 AM Rating: Default
trickybeck wrote:
Will there ever be another Hitchcock?


Yes. His name is Uwe Boll.
His movies scare me.
#10 Apr 14 2006 at 7:55 AM Rating: Decent
Jawbox the Furtive wrote:
Kubrick made some true classics, a few of which are on my own personal top 20 list.

Full Metal Jacket

The Shining

A Clockwork Orange

2001: A Space Odyssey



Then there's Barry Lindon, Dr. Strangeglove, Spartacus, etc.

But in the end, I think Francis Ford Coppola edges him out as a great movie maker. Speilberg too, maybe.


Yeah, Speilberg doesn't push the envolope enought to actually put him in the same league as Kubrick. Quentin Tarantino is good, but he hasn't done anything near 2001: A Space Odyssey, I mean in my opinion Kubrick could have put out a entire chick flick and I would have loved it.

Apocalypse Now and I've seen Apocolypse now, but I have not see The Godfather so I may look it up at my local block buster to check it out.
Eske wrote:
A clockwork orange was a peculiar movie, but I couldn't find much of Kubrick's influence within it that set it apart from the book. I don't give the director much credit for just transcribing a movie and keeping most of the novel's power intact.

Typical of Kubrick to over-sexualize the theme of the movie in that one, as usual. I didn't like it that much.

Books to Movies is further apart from than apple to oranges. Kinda like Locusts to Bannanas...
By the way, has anyone seen Lolita? I have never seen it nor have I ever seen a copy on shelves... anywhere...
#11 Apr 14 2006 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
****
6,760 posts
I fell asleep during 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Clockwork Orange was just plain weird. It made me uncomfortable watching it.

Full Metal Jacket and The Shining were good ones though. I really liked both of those.
____________________________
Some people are like slinkies, they aren't really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
#12 Apr 14 2006 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
***
3,826 posts
Some teacher made us watch parts of 2001. I remember being pretty bored.
#13 Apr 14 2006 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
2001: A space odyssey was very boring until the last 20 mins or so.

It took me abou 4 attempts to get all of the way through it.
#14 Apr 14 2006 at 9:35 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Kakar the Vile wrote:
Clockwork Orange was just plain weird. It made me uncomfortable watching it.
Well, that was much of the point.

It was a good film in that it stayed faithful to the novel. It's hard to give it major accolades though since, well, it just stayed faithful to the novel.

The American print of the novel anyway. The British print, or so the Forward by Burgess in my paperback copy tells me, had an additional chapter (now included in all prints) in which...

Alex forms a new gang after being "cured" but soon realizes that the thrill isn't there and that he's naturally grown out of the whole scene. Time and personal growth have done what science and "conditioning" could not -- made Alex into a legitimate member of society.

...apparently the American print houses thought the ending made the novel too "weak" and deleted it from their initial printings.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#15 Apr 14 2006 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
Gurue
*****
16,299 posts
I've never seen Clockwork Orange and 2001 bored me.

I'm not a huge fan of The Shining, since I hate the way movies are rarely like the book.
#16 Apr 14 2006 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
****
6,471 posts
Jophiel wrote:
The American print of the novel anyway. The British print, or so the Forward by Burgess in my paperback copy tells me, had an additional chapter (now included in all prints) in which...

---------------

...apparently the American print houses thought the ending made the novel too "weak" and deleted it from their initial printings.


Hmm, I read the full version of the novel for my class. I can't really say whether or not it weakened the effect of the story, but sounds like editing it out would sure as hell kill a bit of the underlying message of the whole novel.
#17 Apr 14 2006 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
Is it wrong that I wasn't uncomfortable at all watching or reading A Clockwork Orange?
#18 Apr 14 2006 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
****
6,471 posts
His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
Is it wrong that I wasn't uncomfortable at all watching or reading A Clockwork Orange?


It was pretty difficult to feel uncomfortable reading the book, because I was too busy trying to extract what was going on through that goofy fu[Aqua][/Aqua]cking language. It really made everything a lot less visceral. That's partly by design, I suppose.

But the movie, I dunno...those codpieces made me pretty uncomfortable.
#19 Apr 14 2006 at 11:10 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
Is it wrong that I wasn't uncomfortable at all watching or reading A Clockwork Orange?
It just makes you a bad-***, man. A. Bad. ***.

I might want to hire you to protect me in case Varrus ever decides to attack me with his giant muscles.

I didn't feel especially uncomfortable either but, by the time I saw it in college, I was probably already desensitized enough by modern Hollywood to not be particularly shocked.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#20 Apr 14 2006 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
Quote:
It just makes you a bad-***, man. A. Bad. ***.

Stop it, you big meanie head.
#21 Apr 14 2006 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
**
581 posts
Clockwork Orange scared me ._.

I can't remember why I wanted to see it in the first place, but I think it had some influence on Silent Hill games or something to do with the movie Jacob's Ladder...

but anyhoo, I was very surprised at what I saw. More nudity and suggested rape than a porno; more unintelligable words than a foreign flick; More random violence than a bad showing of DBZ.

While the concept was interesting, and some of the more detailed ideas he put into the movie were thoughtful... the overall impression of the movie kinda wore off on me. It seemed to drag on and on during the slow parts, not make sense during others.

Personally, I think he could've made a more appealling film with the exact same idea.
#22 Apr 14 2006 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
****
5,677 posts
Did anybody like Eyes Wide Shut? I seem to be one of the few who actually liked it. Not that it's a cinematic classic or anything, but I thought it was pretty good, especially visually/aesthetically.

#23 Apr 14 2006 at 11:20 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Never seen it.

The ladyfriend got me a 3-month gift subscription to NetFlix so maybe I'll tack it on there so I don't have to worry about being judged by the 19 year old at the Hollywood Video counter.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#24 Apr 14 2006 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
Avatar
*****
10,802 posts
Jawbox the Furtive wrote:
Did anybody like Eyes Wide Shut? I seem to be one of the few who actually liked it. Not that it's a cinematic classic or anything, but I thought it was pretty good, especially visually/aesthetically.



I liked Eyes Wide Shut. I thought it was beautifully done as well but I was a tad disappointed with the acting itself. Tom Cruise, was well, Tom Cruise, and he either over-acted or under-acted. And the movie was a bit slow.
#25 Apr 14 2006 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
***
1,863 posts
Sassy wrote:
I can not seriously think of anyone making another 2001: A Space Odyssey or A Clockwork Orange.


The other day I tried to imagine what A Clockwork Orange would be like if it were re-done by David Lynch.

I figure the iconic desensitization scene (with our protagonist strapped to a chair, his eyes held open as he is forced to watch images on screen) would be kept completely in tact.. though I suspect it would occur in the audience rather than in the film.
#26 Apr 14 2006 at 12:08 PM Rating: Excellent
Code Monkey
Avatar
****
7,476 posts
Jawbox the Furtive wrote:
Did anybody like Eyes Wide Shut? I seem to be one of the few who actually liked it. Not that it's a cinematic classic or anything, but I thought it was pretty good, especially visually/aesthetically.


It was a very well directed and artistically magnificent piece of crap movie.
____________________________
Do what now?
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 275 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (275)