Did anyone happen to see this documentary on Discovery channel a few months back? I taped in on the DVR and watched it over the weekend. An interesting look at some of the footage captured by Timothy Treadwell, bear enthusiast and self-proclaimed "protector" that got eaten by one of his "friends" in 2003.
The man seemed to be fairly unstable to me. Since he was protecting bears within a national park, I have to wonder why the NPS didn't remove him from the park before something like this happened. He was breaking any number of park regulations, including touching and "humanizing" the bears. Surely that would have been enough to turf his hippie *** out of there.
A reasonable report of the incident can be found here.
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What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Darwinism at it's best.
We only need Steve Irwin to get munched by a croc and they'll never be able to disprove it.
We only need Steve Irwin to get munched by a croc and they'll never be able to disprove it.
MELISSA IS EATING HER BABIES!
Sorry, they re-ran the trailer for this movie for about 3 weeks at Blockbuster.
I was thinking about renting it, until I found out that the footage of him getting mauled and eaten isn't on the DVD.
Nope, but apparantly is was audio recorded. Perhaps that is on the internet somewhere. =)
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Some fairly unfortunate wording in that report:
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An attempt will also be made to theorize what actually took place in camp that stormy night back in 2003, by piecing together bits and pieces....
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Ewww.
LOL!
LOL!
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
You know at his funeral I hope they played this 
, it would have been appropriate.
Link contains music
, it would have been appropriate. Link contains music
I thought someone would link an audio of "Please Don't Feed the Fuc[Darkgreen][/Darkgreen]king Bears" by M.O.D.
It's an amazing story. Having that sense of purpose ("defending" the bears) seemed to save him from addiction (his life was in pretty bad shape when he started).
He could have hung out with the foxes - he got on swimmingly with the foxes. I know they are hunted having seen their pelts for sale. But he chose bears. Really big bears. Isn't it an adrenaline addiction then? Probably. Although eccentric, he could function there, with the bears, better then here, with us, in civilization.
If we have just a seed of Treadwell in us (I do) I can't help thinking it reflects poorly on civilization.
In some sense, he saved himself from a really horrible fate by risking perhaps the most horrific death imaginable.
He did, however, get bears accustomed to humans and who knows how many ultimately will have to die.
He could have hung out with the foxes - he got on swimmingly with the foxes. I know they are hunted having seen their pelts for sale. But he chose bears. Really big bears. Isn't it an adrenaline addiction then? Probably. Although eccentric, he could function there, with the bears, better then here, with us, in civilization.
If we have just a seed of Treadwell in us (I do) I can't help thinking it reflects poorly on civilization.
In some sense, he saved himself from a really horrible fate by risking perhaps the most horrific death imaginable.
He did, however, get bears accustomed to humans and who knows how many ultimately will have to die.
yossarian wrote:
It's an amazing story. Having that sense of purpose ("defending" the bears) seemed to save him...
I personally don't buy that he was "protecting the bears" at all. He may have come to believe that, but really he was living in a national park where animals are protected. Sure, poachers do have some success and will kill a few bears every season, but I doubt one lone trail-mix muncher living in the scrub had any effect at all on whether poachers stayed away. In fact, in the film Treadwell records footage of some poachers that are throwing rocks at a bear. He does absolutely nothing to "protect" that bear, instead choosing to hide in the brush until the poachers leave.
I think this fellow had some problems, for sure, and it is a sad tale. Mostly though, I got a sense from his own film footage that he wanted to be perceived as this modern day Grizzly Adams. He had no practical reason to be there beside his own desire for attention and fame. I'm not sure that that was worth getting eaten alive for.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Like "Gorillas in the Mist", but with bears.
Yeah, except Dian Fossey was an actual academic, and she wasn't murdered by a gorilla.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
wasn't she murdered by a guerilla?
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"Bearfu[Aqua][/Aqua]cker, do you need assistance?
I think Treadwell believed these grizzlies were humans living outdoors in bear suits. Other than sleeping a good chunk of their lives away bears basically do three things: Fight, f0ck, and feed. Ol' Timmah likely got a chance to experience all of those at the hands of that cuddly Yogi he was so fond of.
For those of you who unfamiliar with the destructive power of an adult griz, read up on the force they exert per square inch when mauling their prey. Decapitations of larger wildlife such as wolves and deer are not uncommon from a single swipe of their paw.
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For those of you who unfamiliar with the destructive power of an adult griz, read up on the force they exert per square inch when mauling their prey. Decapitations of larger wildlife such as wolves and deer are not uncommon from a single swipe of their paw.
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Tare wrote:
yossarian wrote:
It's an amazing story. Having that sense of purpose ("defending" the bears) seemed to save him...
I personally don't buy that he was "protecting the bears" at all. He may have come to believe that,
Ya I basically agree. Disocvery showed a follow up to the film which my DVR caught and I watched it, too. Apparently they have footage of poached bears in the same park shortly after Treadwell died - and apparently there were none (or at least none found) when he was alive. This is pretty thin evidence and wasn't enough that the director felt it should be in the film - but some of Treadwell's friends did feel that way.
I was just saying his belief seemed enough to alter his life from a really self-destructive path to what? crazy to be sure, but functional at some level.
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It's an amazing story. Having that sense of purpose ("defending" the bears) seemed to save him from addiction (his life was in pretty bad shape when he started).
One of the most effective ways to deal with an addiction is to direct your dependant personality type in a more socially acceptible manner; rather than a cure, he exchanged addictions. Given the outcome it's tough to argue that this new hobby of his was a step up from any previous (bad his life may have been, but at least he wasn't getting fuc[gold][/gold]king eaten by bears).
yossarian wrote:
Apparently they have footage of poached bears in the same park shortly after Treadwell died - and apparently there were none (or at least none found) when he was alive.
There's no doubt that there is poaching going on in these parks, but TT did nothing to stop it. Nothing effective anyway. If anything, from what I have read, he seemed to be more aggressive toward visitors to the "Grizzly Sanctuary" that came to see these famous "friendly" bears; bears made famous by Treadwell. He didn't want anyone moving in on his territory. He really seemed to feel like that place and those bears belonged to him.
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I was just saying his belief seemed enough to alter his life from a really self-destructive path to what? crazy to be sure, but functional at some level.
I would argue that the path he chose instead was equally self-destructive. He knew what kind of danger he was in everytime he camped in that place. I think he traded one type of high for another.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
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I would argue that the path he chose instead was equally self-destructive. He knew what kind of danger he was in everytime he camped in that place. I think he traded one type of high for another.
I read the account you linked. Gads, that's greusome. I'm going to have to watch some totally fluffy movie tonight like Dumbo to get those images out of my head before I try to sleep.
We have plenty of black bears in Minnesota (mainly in the northern part of the state). I have no desire to see one any closer than across the lake.
I think the whole thing is hilarious. Stupid hippie man getting killed and eaten by the same bear he had been messing with for months... bwahahaha...
CaffeineJunkie wrote:
I think the whole thing is hilarious. Stupid hippie man getting killed and eaten by the same bear he had been messing with for months... bwahahaha...
The bear that ate him was not known to him, it was an older bear from the inland that was looking for food pre-hibernation.
You might want to try reading the link.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Tare wrote:
Yeah, except Dian Fossey was an actual academic, and she wasn't murdered by a gorilla.
Jeez, I didn't actually watch it.
He lived a somewhat productive life for 13 years filming the bears over the summer and working local schools teaching about bears and running (or helping run) some kind of grizley foundation. I weight this against the alcoholic/druggie/not very nice person he was before coming to the park.
Also, I agree he was is great danger the whole time. However, he must have known a thing or two. Thirteen summers is a long time.
He crossed a line his final summer by staying longer - after the more familiar bears entered hybernation and the desperate bears emerged. I think he even talks about this in the film: it is not the healty bear that is the threat - it's the older, hungry, desperate ones.
Also, I agree he was is great danger the whole time. However, he must have known a thing or two. Thirteen summers is a long time.
He crossed a line his final summer by staying longer - after the more familiar bears entered hybernation and the desperate bears emerged. I think he even talks about this in the film: it is not the healty bear that is the threat - it's the older, hungry, desperate ones.
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