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or "Quoted for Truth"

I thought it was an okay movie. I lost it a bit towards the middle during a particularly surprising twist (which just didn't seem to fit into the movie well at all).

The only other part that I didn't like was the character development of the villain. Which is to say, there was none. It's easy to make him seem evil by putting him on big jumbo screens and having him yell alot, but I would have been more impressed if the movie could convey how the public could accept having such a blatantly ****-esque leader in charge. The citizens didn't seem to be living in fear of anything, yet they all seemed to hate the leader. It didn't really make sense. I'm also tired of seeing the old **** analogy paraded around again. It's like they couldn't figure out a good way to illustrate how evil he was through his actions, so they just said "okay, he'll be exactly like hitler".

But in the movie, the citizens were constantly being dragged off in the night, and existed in a military state. Yet they all just seemed to respond with wry humor and apathy. They had no problems complaining about the leader and media representing him to people they didn't know very well, when that was the kind of thing that people seemed to be getting killed for.

Yet with a leader like that, he would be controlling the citizens with either fear, or could really garner their support by selling them on his ideals. And it really didn't seem to be either, by the way that they acted.

I'd say more but I'd rather avoid spoilers.

Does she get naked in it or waht?

NAKED?!

Considering I'm just about the only person that I've heard who's got a (note the use of the singular) negative thing to say about the movie, no, not everyone is a critic.

Natalie Portman's character referred to her parents being dragged off in the middle of the night. The movie implied that things like this were not an infrequent occurance. I saw no implication that it was kept "hush hush".

But christ, I thought it was an okay movie, anyway. I'm just saying that they didn't do a great job of selling me on that one part.

But your critique was thought-provoking as well. ::rollseyes::



If they thought that it was a worthwhile trade, then I would have thought that they'd show more public conviction in support of the leader, then. But they didn't show any. Everyone seemed either impartial, or against him.




Edited, Mon Mar 20 11:52:05 2006 by Eske

Hehe, that's probably true. My friends just might kill me for it, so keep your fingers crossed.

I'll agrea that it wasn't conveyed as well as it could've been, but there were hints of it.

They never showed the audiance of "the voice", but the frequent cheers you heard were evidence of support of the governments views/policies, even if it was propaganda.

There was a lot of apathy. Reason being? Most of the dissenters were "black bagged". It wasn't shown onscreen, but there was also mention of "record arrests" and such, with "the ears" listening in on just about everyone anyway.

Think about the first scene with Evy. She was apologetic that she was caught out after curfew. She didn't think it unreasonable at all that "the fingers" would detain her
for breaking curfew. Their society had accepted the way things were, even if they didn't like it, until V made his little TV appearance.

Heh. If Natalie Portman in the little schoolgirl outfit doesn't do it for you, there were a few lesbian's kissing, and a pile of naked dead bodies in there as well ^^

I just reread your first post, and I think that maybe I fell into this crowd:



I definitely didn't pick up on those, so maybe that's why I didn't get the real feel of the ever-present totalitarian rule.



I suppose I'm just used to the idea that every complete discussion on media should touch on both pros and cons, no matter the ratio. I'll consent that paying a little too much lip service to minor faults could potentially damage the movie experience. That part probably only bothered me because I've seen it done better in similar movies (See "Equilibrium" the greatest movie ever).

Also, I think that because of the political commentary in the movie, the way that the government was illustrated was pretty important. But its also true that yes, it wasn't exactly a documentary, either.

Err...I lost my train of thought. Anyway, point conceded.

P.S: Man, I AM a buzz-kill!

Good Bob is that the movie about the Gun-kata or whatever?

That movie was a straight retelling for Farenheit 451 and a bad one at that.