I don't hate Harry Potter, I just don't like smarmy little boys, with stupid bowl haircuts.
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I hate Harry Potter for two reasons. Neither has anything to do with religion.
First, they are written like total garbage. Now, that's my opinion, so don't get heated up, and it is also Harold Bloom's opinion, and he's kind of hard to get at. I've read all kinds of stuff, from new fiction to the Nibelunglied, and it's the worst thing I've seen.
Second, the Lego company has made oodles of Harry Potter stuff. If they hadn't made all the ugly HP stuff, they might have made something interesting. The only good piece they added was the turban.
First, they are written like total garbage. Now, that's my opinion, so don't get heated up, and it is also Harold Bloom's opinion, and he's kind of hard to get at. I've read all kinds of stuff, from new fiction to the Nibelunglied, and it's the worst thing I've seen.
Second, the Lego company has made oodles of Harry Potter stuff. If they hadn't made all the ugly HP stuff, they might have made something interesting. The only good piece they added was the turban.
Like I said, I only read the first book. The first thing I noticed was that it was clearly written for young readers. Short sentences, basic vocabulary, simple ideas.
I'd call it fairly mediocre reading material, but I have to agree with the adults around the world in saying thank goodness kids are putting down the video games and reading some books! Because we know where reading even one entertaining book can lead.
I'd call it fairly mediocre reading material, but I have to agree with the adults around the world in saying thank goodness kids are putting down the video games and reading some books! Because we know where reading even one entertaining book can lead.
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Grows on trees for them!
Grows on trees for them!
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personaly those christians that are tossing a fit about Harry Potter books are just nut cases or not using thier heads, or something. i know a few of them, and this is how you can shut them up.
ask them if they like star wars... odds are most of them are ok with star wars and see nothing evil in it.
ok, tell me what is the differance between the force and magic? there is none. they are using external forces to controll the world and ppl around them. so if you think harry potter is evil, then you also must think that star wars is evil, yet i do not see a big campaign against star wars now do you...
get off the bandwagon and think for your self. yes im a big christian, but i also understand the differance between fiction and non-fiction thank you very much.
ask them if they like star wars... odds are most of them are ok with star wars and see nothing evil in it.
ok, tell me what is the differance between the force and magic? there is none. they are using external forces to controll the world and ppl around them. so if you think harry potter is evil, then you also must think that star wars is evil, yet i do not see a big campaign against star wars now do you...
get off the bandwagon and think for your self. yes im a big christian, but i also understand the differance between fiction and non-fiction thank you very much.
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ok, tell me what is the differance between the force and magic? there is none. they are using external forces to controll the world and ppl around them. so if you think harry potter is evil, then you also must think that star wars is evil, yet i do not see a big campaign against star wars now do you...
Leviticus doesn't say "Thou shall not suffer a Jedi to live". It does mention Witches, though.
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What about C.S. Lewis?
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Who was that? I've heard the name before? What books did he write?
http://www.cslewis.org/
Revered Christian and fantasy writer.
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Revered Christian and fantasy writer.
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He wrote the Jesus, the Satan and the Wardrobe. As thinly veiled an attempt to stealth teach children about the Christer Bunny by using a fantasy facsade as there has ever been.
The writing's pretty good though. I remember reading them when I was kid, maybe 10, and loving them. Then at one point it hit me and I said "Ahh, fuc[b][/b]k, Aslan is Jesus. Gay." His sci-fi "that hideous stregnth" trilogy was ok too. When I was ten. It might be horrible if I read it again now.
The writing's pretty good though. I remember reading them when I was kid, maybe 10, and loving them. Then at one point it hit me and I said "Ahh, fuc[b][/b]k, Aslan is Jesus. Gay." His sci-fi "that hideous stregnth" trilogy was ok too. When I was ten. It might be horrible if I read it again now.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
I imagine that some Christians hate Potter for the same reasons that some non-Christians do: Because they aren't into the fantasy genre.
/shrugs
Is that really a surprise to you, trunks?
Totem
Edited, Fri Jun 11 13:42:53 2004 by Totem
/shrugs
Is that really a surprise to you, trunks?
Totem
Edited, Fri Jun 11 13:42:53 2004 by Totem
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I wouldn't get to worked up about it, because there always something that ticks some people off. In just my life time there been Elvis, rock'roll, the Beatles, birth control, hippies, punk rock, Monty Python's Life of Brian, Mel Gibson's Passion and a hold bunch more. So the Christian Right can ***** as long as they want, after all that is one of our greatest freedoms, the freedom of free speech and as long as we protect it we will survive and like most things the Harry Potter controversy will blow over with something replacing in. So just chill, history has a strange way of making todays worries look silly as time moves on.
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The writing's pretty good though. I remember reading them when I was kid, maybe 10, and loving them. Then at one point it hit me and I said "Ahh, ****, Aslan is Jesus. Gay." His sci-fi "that hideous stregnth" trilogy was ok too. When I was ten. It might be horrible if I read it again now.
Totally off topic, but "Shadowlands" kicked ***.
I remember seeing the animated version of TLW&tW when I was a mere tyke. The scene with all the goblins and witches and ogres and other assorted evil thingies tying Aslan to the table and torturing him gave me nightmares. Didn't make me any more devout of a Christian -- just ruined my sleep.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Yanari,
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I've found that when I have the urge to make statements like this, it's a good idea to learn more about the topic before shooting off my mouth. And not from sources that agree with your position, but from the very people with whom you disagree.
I think you misunderstood the context from which I spoke. I didn't mean to imply that people that believe themselves to be witches were necessarily bad people just misguided spiritually. Again this is an opinion if you disagree with that so it goes but as a god fearing man I believe the bible actually warns against such practices. However, there is a difference between a non-fiction kids book and the occult.
Varus
You said:
I've found that when I have the urge to make statements like this, it's a good idea to learn more about the topic before shooting off my mouth. And not from sources that agree with your position, but from the very people with whom you disagree.
I think you misunderstood the context from which I spoke. I didn't mean to imply that people that believe themselves to be witches were necessarily bad people just misguided spiritually. Again this is an opinion if you disagree with that so it goes but as a god fearing man I believe the bible actually warns against such practices. However, there is a difference between a non-fiction kids book and the occult.
Varus
You're right, the bible does warn against witches.
Not everyone believes in the bible.
Not everyone believes in the bible.
smash that is a very valid arguement, if we were talking about something that is real vs fiction.
this set of books is based on a ficticious setting. the things in that book do not happen, can not happen, and will not happen...
the witches that the bible is refering to are cultist that worship satin. that is the differance.
as i stated. those who like to try to pull that exact same line you did are those who do not have a firm grasp on reality. so are you saying that all magic is bad? then david coperfield must be the devil incarnate, and what about all of the other thousands of magicians and witches, as that is the proper name for a femal magician, who are on stage every day around the world? are they all devil worshipers?
come on. little common sense please. if you want to argue just for the sake of arguing, then you are on your own there. its ppl with a closed mind that cause fits like the one we are seeing now with harry potter.
this set of books is based on a ficticious setting. the things in that book do not happen, can not happen, and will not happen...
the witches that the bible is refering to are cultist that worship satin. that is the differance.
as i stated. those who like to try to pull that exact same line you did are those who do not have a firm grasp on reality. so are you saying that all magic is bad? then david coperfield must be the devil incarnate, and what about all of the other thousands of magicians and witches, as that is the proper name for a femal magician, who are on stage every day around the world? are they all devil worshipers?
come on. little common sense please. if you want to argue just for the sake of arguing, then you are on your own there. its ppl with a closed mind that cause fits like the one we are seeing now with harry potter.
Satan is a creation of christianity.
Witches are not christians. They don't believe in the christian god or devil.
With as trendy as wicca and other witchcraft religions have become, I'm amazed that people still have that misconception.
Oh, and I've never heard anyone make the accusation that there is satan worship contained in the Harry Potter books.
Witches are not christians. They don't believe in the christian god or devil.
With as trendy as wicca and other witchcraft religions have become, I'm amazed that people still have that misconception.
Oh, and I've never heard anyone make the accusation that there is satan worship contained in the Harry Potter books.
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Not everyone believes in the bible.
No, but I think we can make the quantum fuc[b][/b]king leap that the Christians protesting it probably do, no?
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
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But anyways why do SOME people and MOST christians hate Harry Potter, or other things, if you all remember when Pokemon was really big ( I was about 11 or 12 at the time) and reading how Christians were saying how Pokemon is the evil and Pokemon is the devil!
I do remember when the Pokemon is evil thing was going on. It's not fundamental Christians that hate Harry Potter and Pokemon, etc. It's your Charismatics and Pentacostals that get on the bandwagon against these things.
People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome. ~River Tam
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No, but I think we can make the quantum ******* leap that the Christians protesting it probably do, no?
I'm sure someone will come along and erroneously state that Catholics aren't Christians, but I don't believe anything in the Bible is necessairly from God, more than anything said by anyone else is. It's inspirational at times, but I think that people that use it as an instruction manual of how to be 'good' are lacking in instinct and common sense.
Edited, Sat Jun 12 00:06:49 2004 by Atomicflea
Of course they are. THe only reason I brought it up was to point out that the "You din't protest star wars!' argument was a stupid one to make to people who belive in witches.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
The bible is a instruction manual sorta, in the bible if you look its talks about every situation that you dont know how to handle in this world, if you follow what it says to do then in the end you did the right thing.
And Flea people do lack instinct and common sense (everybody!) thats why you follow what it says to do because in christian religion its the right thing to do.
And Flea people do lack instinct and common sense (everybody!) thats why you follow what it says to do because in christian religion its the right thing to do.
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thats why you follow what it says to do because in christian religion its the right thing to do.
You should know what that is without having to consult the bible. People know what they think. They just like to have a document to back them up because they are either wishy-washy or frightened that they will be a disappointment to others, or to themselves.
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