Face it, people, this is a religious warFollow

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5078063/

Note what the savage at the bottom of the article says, "This is what young people can’t understand. Is the West against Muslims?" Yep. You got it Einstein, errr Abdullah.

"'To such people it is the duty to further jihad — to recruit people to an extremist cause,' said counterterrorist expert Charles Shoebridge."

This is exactly what I've been talking about for some time now-- a Muslim's higher allegiance to something other than their parent country. Are any of you seeing why it is time we round these people up and place them in internment camps/export them to Sudan/deny them entrance to Western countries? Untrustworthy, unreliable, and prone to violence against their own countrymen.

It's time to lance this boil on the a$$ of western civilization.

Totem

Edited, Fri May 28 00:52:29 2004 by Totem

Who siad it wasn't a religous war?


Clearly the US is persecuting Muslim nations because they're easy targets. We'd never dream of invading a Christian nation.

Wow, I agree with totem. Although I think we're going about it all wrong. We really don't need to conquer a whole nation and **** even more people off. Armys are good for killing people and breaking stuff, that's about it. We don't need that sort of big flashy thing right now. What we need are small teams of highly trained special ops sorts to go in and hunt down the active terrorists.

However, I think this war isn't really about terrorism to our so called leaders, it's all about money, power, and revenge. Like I said, we need dedicated, highly trained people go and either capture these people, bring them here and give them a quick trial, and a much more merciful death than they deserve or to shoot them for resisting, it makes no difference to me. To go with that we're going to need a good intelligence service, not a bunch of bureaucrats who are more concerned with their jobs than innocent civillians. We also need different leaders that are more concernet for protecting and guiding out nation than lining their pockets and persecuting whomever they can get away with.

This is indeed a religeous war for them, and religious fanatics are the worse sort of people to pick a fight with. It may also be a religious war(among other motivations, he could just be saying that too, I trust the guy about as far as I can throw a house) for our esteemed presidesnt shrubya. I've read a few disturbing things about how he prostrates himself to pray and considers bringing democracy to the world (while he takes it away here) his god given mission. Bear in mind fanatics are the worse sort of people to be running things as well. As near as I can figure we're all pretty much screwed, it's just a matter of time.

http://www.prayforgeorgewbush.com/pages/236635/index.htm

Why would anyone think it was a religous war on our part? I wonder how many of those pamphlets were dropped on the ground in Iraq.

did we spend so much that we can't build a new pipeline?

*ducks* ;)

I think the idea was different money, different politics. Don't dismiss this idea so easily. I simplified it for posting sake.

Eb

i really dislike bush its all about god. I could give a crap about god. I live life the way i want and dont need people talking about god this and that. Its all about control man if you think about it. That and taxes are insane so they can pay for the higher up to take vacations and get millions in bonuses. Being in goverment should be a free thing not a payed position.

Someone better warn the Coptic Christians in Egypt!

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tu.html

Don't make me an Joph put a learnin on you silly bastards now.

One, Godwins.


Two, ****'s were about securing power by means of creating an evil force at work trying to destroy the world. The Jew. To a large degree, the fact that they killed so many of them was driven by a need to live up to the propaganda.

A comparison would be a modern nation demonizing a certain religous group as "fuc[/b]king brainwashed" and declaring war on their methodology. Of course, that woudln't happen today.

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IF millions of Christians lived in a large and industrialized ORGANIZED and unified Mulslim country.. it would only be a matter of time before Christians would be ethncally cleansed like the Jewish were.

Or..like the Muslims have been repeadetly throughout history? I mean don't get me wrong, I understand the motivation for genocide. In the abstract I'm really pretty much all for people who belive they are members of a chosen race or religion or eye color or show size or fuc[b]king WHATEVER being slaughtered en masse. In practice, of course, it seems a little more cruel. Christians aren't going to be ethnically cleansed any time soon.

The last "ethnic cleansing" of a religous group was when the MUSLIMS were killed en masse in Bosnia. By Christians, naturally.


In truth it really doesn't take much for people to kill thier fellow man. It's the organising principle of civilization. "Do what I say or I'll hit you with this rock" is the fundemental theorm of the entire political process. Facist, Dictatorial, Democratic, whatever. It certainly doesn't require any brainwashing.

Not to **** all over your brainwashing theory, but if one reaches the conclusion that the default state of human instinct is towards agression, and it would difficult not to reach that conclusion, then brainwashing would be required to change that default state.

That's why selfless non-violent people like Ghandi are exceptionaly rare, and thugs who will kill you for pocket change are found all around the world.

When was the last time they had a good ol' fashioned tent revival??!?

They need to get right with tha Lord!

Eb

What's Jordan?

Eb