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#1 May 11 2004 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
All I can say is that it is inhuman. Whoever does such a vicious killing must be exterminated, there can be no place in this world for people like that.

Anyone else see it?
#2 May 11 2004 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
Are you talking about that reporter that was kidnapped in Pakistan? I saw that 6-7 months ago, I was traumatized for days afterwards, horrifying, really! That is by far the worst thing I have seen in my life, and I would not wish anyone to see that. I wish I had not seen it myself.
#3 May 11 2004 at 4:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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no, they did another one today as "revenge" fo the inhumane treatment of prisoners in Iraq.

I think after today we'll just stop taking any...
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Why couldn't they have gone to Germany for that?!?!?! Smiley: banghead
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#5 May 11 2004 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
It was Nicholas Berg, a civilian working on Iraqi infrastructure who was captured and executed today.

I am attaching a link where you can view it, I warn you its disturbing.

  • http://www.ogrish.com/index2.php

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    I don't know why I click these durned links. =[

    While it was horrible and a terrible thing, I can't honestly say that I blame them with all the pictures floating out around there of the prisoner treatment or the stories they must be hearing of the treatment of women in the camps. It just sucks all around. :(
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    #7 May 11 2004 at 4:52 PM Rating: Decent
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    What's wrong with it?

    You can look at **** while waiting for your beheading video to finish downloading.

    Win-win.

    #8 May 11 2004 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
    This is nothing like the prisoner photo's and videos.

    This is inhuman. We dont kill animals in such a fashion.
    #9 May 11 2004 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
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    It's no more inhuman shooting an Iraqi prisoner.

    Sorry, but it's not.
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    #10 May 11 2004 at 5:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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    Oh my god, that was awful.

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    #11 May 11 2004 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
    That was extremely mild compared to the Reporter in Pakistan footage. Warning, do not seek out the other one, it really is terrible, I could watch that one all day, the pakistan one fu[b][/b]cked me up.
    #12 May 11 2004 at 5:08 PM Rating: Decent
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    ....i thought i had somthing to say about this... but there is really nothing to say..

    just think that this happens everyday to sombody somewhere... add a name to the face..... God theh sounds on that are horrible.. And they are praising God as they do this....

    i still have no real comment on this... just very very sad.
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    #13 May 11 2004 at 5:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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    I don't know, Smash. I haven't seen any of these shooting deaths but if it were me, I think I'd rather be shot than have my head cut off. Unless, I was shot in the kneecap. Ohhh, that would not be good.

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    Dead is dead. Dead after twenty seconds after having your head cut off or dead after three days because people beat the **** out of you in prison.

    Which one's more horrific?
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    #15 May 11 2004 at 5:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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    Heh, guess I'm lucky. I didn't know there was any sound and had it off.

    Anyway, I was just trying to think about their motivation, I wasn't trying to make it seem like the guy's death is meaningless or anything. Stick me in a place where people all around are being hauled off to camps (then seeing what happens to them in pictures) or being killed in "incidents" I really don't know what kind of person I'd become.
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    #16 May 11 2004 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
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    It's no more inhuman shooting an Iraqi prisoner.

    Sorry, but it's not.


    How ignorant is that?!

    Did you not read that he was a civillian helping Iraq get on its feet, not some milita man in a bunker firing off RPG's killing kids, or blowing up IED's taking out anything in its blast radius.

    Killing a soldier who is fighting a war is bad, but it happens, killing civillians who are only there to "help" who post no real threat to you is just weak.

    Sometimes I think that Smash is just so damn bored that he pushes peoples buttons just for some excitment during work...smart man.
    #17 May 11 2004 at 5:23 PM Rating: Decent
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    i didn't know they do it with a ******* knife.


    These people are tainted... there is nothing for them but death..... one day in the future after generations of children see this kind of behaviour.. I believe only then will things start to get better.... until then we have to wait it out with savage **** like this....

    I just watched the Daniel Pearl video..... people are just ****** up...

    This is waht happens when instead of saturday morning cartoons, you have saturday morning executions and beatings..with a side of nationalist brainwashing


    actually I DO know why they do it with a ******* knife..

    Edited, Tue May 11 18:24:24 2004 by Kelvyquayo
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    #18 May 11 2004 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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    How ignorant is that?!

    Did you not read that he was a civillian helping Iraq get on its feet, not some milita man in a bunker firing off RPG's killing kids, or blowing up IED's taking out anything in its blast radius.

    Did you read the Red Cross report stating that SEVENTY PERCENT of the detainees in Iraq were there for no apparent reason and the vast majority were eventually released.

    Ignorant indeed.

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    Killing a soldier who is fighting a war is bad, but it happens, killing civillians who are only there to "help" who post no real threat to you is just weak.

    Sometimes I think that Smash is just so damn bored that he pushes peoples buttons just for some excitment during work...smart man.

    The US has killed 1000 times as many completely innocent Iraqis as the Iraqis have killed US civillians. The method of killing them isn't much of a distinction to the families of the dead I imagine.
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    #19 May 11 2004 at 5:40 PM Rating: Decent
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    I think that it's the public-ness of it that is the hardest to bare for the families...... for some reason.
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    Did you read the Red Cross report stating that SEVENTY PERCENT of the detainees in Iraq were there for no apparent reason and the vast majority were eventually released.

    Ignorant indeed.


    I know the story all to well. Here in AF the 22nd MEU was just doing routine patrols when one of their young Cpl's get shot and killed...so they cordon the village and get every fighting age male round up to investigate. Then if they turn out innocent they let them go...they don't behead them and video tape it. Pay attention to the words...eventually released

    The world is outraged by some guys pulling college type hazing acts on people that would slit their throats if the tables were turned. We are giving them 3 meals a day, daily showers, clean clothes, and a bed to sleep on. Not only that but insuring that they live another day and not die from some missed placed rocket attack from their own people. Don't get me wrong, we can all agree that the people in those pictures weren't doing the right and just thing, but can you honestly say that you wouldn't do the same if you were in that situation?

    No apparent reason??? I think not. We don't drive around and pick up people becuase we are bored and have room in the prison.

    And I don't see how you can compare "detaining" someone for a day or two, to cutting someones head off and filming it.
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    Torturing people isn't simmilar to "college hazing". Unless you go to the college where they let dogs bite your genitals.

    The two acts are morraly EQUIVILENT. Sorry. I realize the fact that one of the victims looks like you impacts you severly, but it's not any worse than an Iraqi dying from being tortured.
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    Dog biting nads....beheading....

    I can't decide.
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    but can you honestly say that you wouldn't do the same if you were in that situation?


    um... YEAH


    Take away a few decades of your Western morality and see if you wouldn't be the one beheading somone with a hunting knife.
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    #24 May 11 2004 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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    One thing that doesn't need a discussion is that both are terrible things and should be stopped.

    Another thing can't be avoided....they never will be stopped.

    People talk about ending wars and to me a better topic would be how to prevent hair loss, becuase THAT would actually prove benefitial, and might actually find resolve. People who think that war will end if they make a bigger sign and stand out in DC for an extra 30 minutes are totally wasting their time. They would be better off going back to work and indirectly funding the war they are so against.

    The point that I am trying to make is that people in the Iraqi prison were picked up becuase of suspicions or direct actions agains coalition forces. The dude getting his head cut off and taped so that his children can watch it later, was doing nothing but trying to help, no guns, no IED's, nothing. Taken that murder is murder however you do it, still, killing innocent unarmed people is a horrible act and shouldn't be tolerated...by either side.
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    What gets to me is this attitude that one American civilian dead means more to people than a hundred innocent dead Iraqis in a bombing or some crap.

    If you were to ask me which was more horrible, one dead man with his head cut off or everyone in my work building dead around me I don't even have to think twice about which is worse or more inhumane.

    It's not like they're the first people to cut off a man's head either. I'm sure Americans in the past OR present have NEVER done that. :P
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    um... YEAH


    Well head on over to Iraq and let me know when you get back.
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