Is anyone else very interested in seeing Michael Moore's new documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11"? What do you think of Disney blocking Miramax from distibuting the film? Publicity stunt by Moore or an actual fear on the part of Disney that Jeb Bush will respond in kind re: tax breaks?
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I don't think it's just tax breaks. Disney also owns ABC and a lot of cable channels. Next time deregulation talks come up, Disney will want to cozy up to the administration. Next time Bush is "embedding" reporters, Disney wants to make sure their ABC guys are in the team. I don't doubt that it's Disney afraid to be viewed as taking any sort of partisan stance, especially one against the possible 2005-2008 administration. If Kerry wins it's easy to just blow off the fact that you blocked a politically charged film but, if Bush wins and you released it, you'll have quite a bit of egg on your face.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
robfox wrote:
Moore is an ***!
Quite a contribution. Thanks.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
I'd like to see the flick, dont know that I would agree with it but I liked Bowling for Colimbine, was chilling as hell watching the two boys roam the halls on that day. Worth the rental for that part alone. Odd as hell to that the last "normal" thing they did that day was show up at 6am for their bowling class.
Moore is your classic left-wing pot stirrer. His only contribution is showing one sided (left) views which are hyped up to be controversial.
I would like Moore to give an honest expose on relevant issues. We can hack and slam Bush from now till the end of time about what he has done during/post 9/11. But this is all based on information after the fact.
I am sure that most people in the Presidents shoes with the information he had at the time (right or wrong) and with the advisors and experts he had would probably have conducted the same actions or worse.
Yes he has made a few bad decisions, but that is due to assessment of the situation with facts that were not present at the time of decision making.
Moore is going to harp on about a past event which brings no positive value. If he wants to do something useful, help work a solution, find out why the UN and its signatories are not involving themselves more.....would that not be a useful piece of reporting?
Why does he always have to make the government or authority figures look bad? Because its easy, it sells movie tickets and is just sensational reporting.
Lets stop looking at the past and join together and work on the future. We need a solution and constantly looking back will not solve it.
I would like Moore to give an honest expose on relevant issues. We can hack and slam Bush from now till the end of time about what he has done during/post 9/11. But this is all based on information after the fact.
I am sure that most people in the Presidents shoes with the information he had at the time (right or wrong) and with the advisors and experts he had would probably have conducted the same actions or worse.
Yes he has made a few bad decisions, but that is due to assessment of the situation with facts that were not present at the time of decision making.
Moore is going to harp on about a past event which brings no positive value. If he wants to do something useful, help work a solution, find out why the UN and its signatories are not involving themselves more.....would that not be a useful piece of reporting?
Why does he always have to make the government or authority figures look bad? Because its easy, it sells movie tickets and is just sensational reporting.
Lets stop looking at the past and join together and work on the future. We need a solution and constantly looking back will not solve it.
Now, that's better!
Moore is what he is - that's not the point in my mind - the point is, should Disney/Jeb Bush be allowed to effectively censor what Moore has to present in his documentary, simply because Bush will likely "look bad" in it? I mean, America, right? Freedom of speech and all that? Shouldn't people be allowed to examine and question politicians? Political actions? Shouldn't we be allowed to see what his final outcomes are in order to make up our own minds on the subject?
Every media source has a bias to it. Every single one.
Moore is what he is - that's not the point in my mind - the point is, should Disney/Jeb Bush be allowed to effectively censor what Moore has to present in his documentary, simply because Bush will likely "look bad" in it? I mean, America, right? Freedom of speech and all that? Shouldn't people be allowed to examine and question politicians? Political actions? Shouldn't we be allowed to see what his final outcomes are in order to make up our own minds on the subject?
Every media source has a bias to it. Every single one.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
rob wrote:
Moore is your classic left-wing pot stirrer. His only contribution is showing one sided (left) views which are hyped up to be controversial.
I would like Moore to give an honest expose on relevant issues. We can hack and slam Bush from now till the end of time about what he has done during/post 9/11. But this is all based on information after the fact.
I am sure that most people in the Presidents shoes with the information he had at the time (right or wrong) and with the advisors and experts he had would probably have conducted the same actions or worse.
Yes he has made a few bad decisions, but that is due to assessment of the situation with facts that were not present at the time of decision making.
Moore is going to harp on about a past event which brings no positive value. If he wants to do something useful, help work a solution, find out why the UN and its signatories are not involving themselves more.....would that not be a useful piece of reporting?
Why does he always have to make the government or authority figures look bad? Because its easy, it sells movie tickets and is just sensational reporting.
Lets stop looking at the past and join together and work on the future. We need a solution and constantly looking back will not solve it.
I would like Moore to give an honest expose on relevant issues. We can hack and slam Bush from now till the end of time about what he has done during/post 9/11. But this is all based on information after the fact.
I am sure that most people in the Presidents shoes with the information he had at the time (right or wrong) and with the advisors and experts he had would probably have conducted the same actions or worse.
Yes he has made a few bad decisions, but that is due to assessment of the situation with facts that were not present at the time of decision making.
Moore is going to harp on about a past event which brings no positive value. If he wants to do something useful, help work a solution, find out why the UN and its signatories are not involving themselves more.....would that not be a useful piece of reporting?
Why does he always have to make the government or authority figures look bad? Because its easy, it sells movie tickets and is just sensational reporting.
Lets stop looking at the past and join together and work on the future. We need a solution and constantly looking back will not solve it.
That is exactly what I gathered when he typed
rob wrote:
Moore is an ***!
Tare wrote:
Quite a contribution. Thanks.
I sensed the sarcasm in that. Tare, you should take those reading comprehension classes everybody has been talking about.
Sure, Skeet. I'll get right on that.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
They are not stopping him make the film, the are saying we wont do it.....he can go to other studios, or go the "Passion" way and do it himself.
Not everyone has to agree with Mr Moore...maybe they have seen his film and either dont agree with or like it.
It may have nothing at all to do with Florida, small bush and taxes...but just to do with taste or lack thereof.
Disney has been making a few new decisions lately, like anti violence and death. Just look at the "alamo", I am sure that this new direction in films may also have been a part of the decision to drop the documentary.
If a film maker does not get a film accepted by one company he normally goes to others and so on. What Moore has done is try one and then call foul, again its just more publicity for Moore...without it he would be a useless fat friendless slob living in obscurity.
Not everyone has to agree with Mr Moore...maybe they have seen his film and either dont agree with or like it.
It may have nothing at all to do with Florida, small bush and taxes...but just to do with taste or lack thereof.
Disney has been making a few new decisions lately, like anti violence and death. Just look at the "alamo", I am sure that this new direction in films may also have been a part of the decision to drop the documentary.
If a film maker does not get a film accepted by one company he normally goes to others and so on. What Moore has done is try one and then call foul, again its just more publicity for Moore...without it he would be a useless fat friendless slob living in obscurity.
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Yes he has made a few bad decisions, but that is due to assessment of the situation with facts that were not present at the time of decision making.
Let me see if I have the right wing view of Bush's job performance correct. He's TRYING OH SO HARD to do the right thing, but he's constantly hamstrung by not havinh sufficent information?
Is that really the argument???
Why not just say that the "bad decision fairy" came and changed his mind. What exacatly would he ever be responsilbe for, then? If any bad decision is the result of someone elses efforts?
Just wondering.
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Oh, and Moore's an ***. Everyone knew about the Disney thing for a year or so, but he intentionally waited untill Cannes to PR it. To try and make more $$ for himeself. He's a fraud.
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Yeah, I was wondering about the timing of this "news" myself.
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Its the bad news Troll not fairy.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=518901
Moore knew a year ago that Disney would not distribute this film. He's just a master huckster and knows how to get headlines so he can cash in.
Moore knew a year ago that Disney would not distribute this film. He's just a master huckster and knows how to get headlines so he can cash in.
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Everyone knew about the Disney thing for a year or so, but he intentionally waited untill Cannes to PR it. To try and make more $$ for himeself. He's a fraud.
heh heh. I agree totally that Moore is an *** but I'm not sure I follow your liberal logic here. I think he is probably just trying to make more money by being controversial and I don't agree with his opinion on this but he is free to do what he wants (thanks to people fighting for our freedom).
what I don't understand is even if he is doing it out of greediness if he's still bringing atention to somethink YOU think is wrong then what is the problem? I guess your saying that doing something good (by YOUR judgment) for the wrong reasons makes it wrong? That would be like saying all the work Mother Teresa (sp?) does is wrong because she just does it for the atention?
If i am putting words in your mouth I'm sorry. Not trying to.
Did I say anything at all about the film, idiot?
Why no, I didn't. It might be the best, most informative, most accurate peice of documentary cinema in history. That wouldn't change the fact that Moore is an *******.
Oh, and by the way, who's fighting to keep FRANCE free? Because that's where he's doing PR. Who knew you were so pro-French. How refreshing.
Edited, Thu May 6 19:52:06 2004 by Smasharoo
Why no, I didn't. It might be the best, most informative, most accurate peice of documentary cinema in history. That wouldn't change the fact that Moore is an *******.
Oh, and by the way, who's fighting to keep FRANCE free? Because that's where he's doing PR. Who knew you were so pro-French. How refreshing.
Edited, Thu May 6 19:52:06 2004 by Smasharoo
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Why is he an ***? because he knows how to get publicity? If that makes him such an *** you must have boy scouts spelunking (sp?) in your ****.
He's an *** because he pretends to fight for the plight of the working man, meanwhile making as much cash as possibly can which he keeps for himself. He doesn't use union staff on his shoots and barely pays the people who work for him
He's an ***.
He's an ***.
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heh heh. if he makes any money speaking out about something he believes in he's an ***. so you give all your disposible income to charity?
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heh heh. if he makes any money speaking out about something he believes in he's an ***. so you give all your disposible income to charity?
One, he doesn't speak out about anything, he makes left wing propaganda. Two he's an *** specifically because he DOESN'T belive it, which word confused you in my last post? Three, what I do with my disposable inncome has no relevance on if he's an *** or not. I could spend it all on buying six month old boys to **** with a chainsaw and it wouldn't make Moore any less of an ***.
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he's an *** specifically because he DOESN'T belive it, which word confused you in my last post?
I think i was confused because you forgot to say you were a mindreader. it makes sense now thank you.
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I think i was confused because you forgot to say you were a mindreader. it makes sense now thank you
What the fuc[b][/b]k are you talkinng about? Only a complete moron could reach any other conclusion. He's just in it for the money and the attention. Ask him, he'll tell you himself.
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Whatever.
Yeah, right, whatever. What would I possibly know about people on the left side of the political spectrum, I have no intrest in that at all.
Go watch Canadian Bacon again and whack off onto your poster of his fat face, I guess, easier than having to deal with the truth.
Go watch Canadian Bacon again and whack off onto your poster of his fat face, I guess, easier than having to deal with the truth.
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Moore is just another demagogue.
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