I was thinking about the Iraqi prison abuse thing...Follow

I was watching one of those horrible network morning news shows, I forget which one, but anyway they were talking about the Iraqi prison abuse thing. I was thinking to myself "hey it's been three minutes without some ******** 'expert' commenting on this" when BAM! They hit me with the biggest, silliest, fraus, pseudo-expert of them all!

Phillip Zimbardo

Oh, sweet compassionate Allah, words cannot express how much I despise this man. Firstly, he's apparently watched one too many B movies where psychologists are required to have goatees and look like Faust. Seriously, if I showed up at this guys office and took one look at him, I'd be waiting for the tessla coil to start sparking.

Secondly, he's never done any serious research in his life. He had one experiment that garnered a great deal of publicity in the 70's and he's been coasting ever since with a series of bad books, PBS series, and lectures.

At any rate, his one famous experiment The Stanford Prison Experiment put a bunch of middle class wite kids into a situation where they roleplayed being in a prison. Some were prisoners and some were gaurds. The experiement had to be stopped because the guards became abusive to the prisoners. The lesson? Power corrupts, authority is powerfull, blah, blah, blah, everything we allready knew from The Milgram Experiment (shock the invisible man in the box because I tell you too even though they scream).

At any rate, this hack is now trying to relate his experiment (naturally) to the abuse in Iraq. His theory being that putting anyone in a situation of power of another person for a sufficent legnth of time leads them to be abusive. It's an intresting theory with some tenny tiny flaws in terms of Iraq that I thought I'd share, since screeming them at the TV didn't seem to have much effect.

If, when you put someone in a position of sufficent power over someone else, they wil abuse this power, why...why DO THE IRAQIS TREAT OUR PRISONERS SO WELL?

Even the ******* "terrorists" give them medical attention and sufficent food. That Jethro truck driver guy was in better shape than when they kidnapped him. Jessica Lynch was resting comfortably in a hospital. Where's your theory now you dumbass Lucifer looking ************!

Just wanted to share my insights.

Like the six Army Reseve MP's that are being courtmashalled?

Where did you read that it was mostly contractors? I haven't seen anything that indicates that.

I haven't seen any either, it's just what I heard on NPR.

This lawyer better put the crack pipe down and realize that Sgt Frederick is lying his *** off. You learn about the Geneva Convention and basic guard duties are taught at basic training and it is part of required annual training. If this Frederick made it to Sgt then that means he attended Military Police Advanced Individual Training which gave him training on how to handle detainees and enemy prisoners of war at the least. So this Sgt has been trained to handle his duties, very poor lie if you ask me.

Skeet's mama raised him right!

What's with the photos of people abusing prisoners and standing there, smiling and posing? How retarded do you have to be to not only openly violate the Geneva Convention, but then pose for photographic evidence?

The military wasn't responsible for the actions of the Titan employees? Fine. Send the Titan guys to trial in Iraq.

Of course, the government would never let it happen, but it sounds fair enough.

That's sick.

Go in under our banner of "Democracy and Freedom", rape and abuse the prisoners of war then watch the government disavow responsibility and the criminals walk away. Makes me proud to be an American

Actually what I believe the underlying sentiment of this topic about these prisoner's being mistreated falls back to a more governmental issue. Not that they're being "mistreated" but that their "rights" are being violated.

Of course, you have to take into account that this is an election year and the democrats are going to do anything and everything to berate President Bush.

The bottom line is, these individuals are fighting a war against the U.S. Therefore they are prisoners of war, and they are not American citizens. In fact they're not really POW because war was never declared. This said, they're not entitled to the same unalienable rights, that we as American citizens are entitled too. "Oh that's racism/discrimnation/prejudice" I'm sorry if I'm one of the few individuals that's going, hey people of arab decent want to blow **** up and kill Americans? So then how is it racism when these individuals are put under more speculation when their "race" and "religion" are the ones where all this conflict is comming directly from?

I personally believe these individuals should be shot on sight. I always believe that the American who was found fighting with Alqeuada in Afghanastan should be tried for treason, publicly beaten, then executed.

*Yet another moment in the life of the crazy gasoline pissing redneck.*

Stok's with you brother! They deserve it for being Iraqis!!

First off, the U.S. was waging a war on Iraq. Unless you recall the Iraqi invasion fleet assaulting Miami or something. Secondly, these are people being held for questioning in relation to attacks on U.S. soldiers. Doesn't mean they're guilty. There's already released prisoners who were apparently found "not guilty" talking about the abuse they suffered.

Bottom line is, you're a moron. I have to seriously wonder at anyone who says it's excusable to torture and rape prisoners. Would it be okay if the Iraqi army was did the same to American PO-- oh, wait.. it's not a real war so they wouldn't be real POWs and anything goes, right? Remember how the administration was trying six ways from Sunday to find an angle where Jessica Lynch was raped, beaten, etc by her captors. Maybe they should put that much energy into looking into their Titan contracted employess and their military personnel.

Edited, Tue May 4 14:14:20 2004 by Jophiel

Thanosto, you are an idiot. I'm just glad your post was so retarded that it discounts itself, so I don't have to bother doing it.

I believe you need to take another look at the situation and stop watching all that democratic media you see on television. And this isn't a discusion about the battle we're fighting in Iraq, this is about Alqueida prisoners. Perhaps it is you who is the fool, for not properly reading and thinking.

And to comment on the situation in Iraq, perhaps you ignored the thirteen years of lies, broken U.N. sancations and regulations, as well as our own aircraft being shot at in the no fly zone. And I'm quite sure I'll not hear a single person grieve Sadaam Huesien's fall from power but his own. Murdering and torturing millions of people stopped by the torturing of a few. The world isn't a nice place, it's a very gruesome unforgiving monster. And not everyone is created equal. These are fairytales told to you by your parents to keep you from crying yourself to sleep at night. Life's unfair, you're a fool, and **** happens. The world will keep on turning.

Sir, being uniformed is a very dangerous thing, good for you America has soft cushioning for idiots.



Edited, Tue May 4 14:21:33 2004 by Thanosto

Oh, and to restate another fact. These "prisoners of war" are being treated better by the American military then before they were captured. You know, I bet if the tables were turned, there would be no "American POW's" they'd just torture them, beat them, rape them, and then shoot them.

You seem to not know, that you're fortunate to live in America.