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in a fight between bruce lee and:
Allakhazam
steven segal
john clod van dam
jet li
jackie chan
who do you think would win outta these guys and please give a explanation on how?
Blanka would kick all their asses.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
What about the Shaw Brothers star, Gordon Liu?
(36 Chambers anyone?)
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(36 Chambers anyone?)
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Bruce Lee Vs Allakhazam Good bye Whitey, Bruce Lee would put his cowbow hat over his face and then kick the **** out of him while he was blinded.
Bruce Lee Vs. Steven Segal Steven Segal would shoot him, or kill him with his acting ability.
Bruce Lee Vs. Jean Claude Van Damm Jean Claude wouldn't have to fight, his minions of adoring women would lynch Brucey boy.
Bruce Li Vs. Jet Li Wouldn't happen, more likely they would go hunting Whiteys together
Bruce Lee Vs. Jackie Chan Not sure. Give this one to Bruce, Jackie spends too much effort on comedy.
Bruce Lee Vs. Steven Segal Steven Segal would shoot him, or kill him with his acting ability.
Bruce Lee Vs. Jean Claude Van Damm Jean Claude wouldn't have to fight, his minions of adoring women would lynch Brucey boy.
Bruce Li Vs. Jet Li Wouldn't happen, more likely they would go hunting Whiteys together
Bruce Lee Vs. Jackie Chan Not sure. Give this one to Bruce, Jackie spends too much effort on comedy.
Random true facts about Bruce:
He was circumcised at 25, just before he got married.
He once sidekicked someone lengthwise across a full size in-ground swimming pool.
While shooting for movies he had to tone down his kicks and punches. They were literally too fast for the camera to catch them.
Even with thick pads, he still broke sparring partners bones.
He was circumcised at 25, just before he got married.
He once sidekicked someone lengthwise across a full size in-ground swimming pool.
While shooting for movies he had to tone down his kicks and punches. They were literally too fast for the camera to catch them.
Even with thick pads, he still broke sparring partners bones.
BL could take them all at the same time, eat them all for dinner, say 'WATAAAAAAAAAAH', and be waiting for the second course (saying 'WOAAAAAHHHHHHHHH??')
Vs Norris: Norris all action 6 Time Karate champion would lose because his strict linear style is too suited to the 'Intercepting fist' of Tae Kwon Do.
Vs Steven Segal: Forced to be ofencive against the counter offencive Aikedo style of Segal Lee would triumph with a vision blurring side kick that has the Big man demoted to 'Dish Washer'
Vs Jean Claude Van Sakiman: Van damn does the splits, Lee kicks him in the face , The end.
Vs Jet Li: They decide that Killing David Carredine is more important and set of to kick ****** ***.
Vs Chan: Bruce incapacitated by an under and over roundhouse push bike manuver, while tied in knots with phone cable, the end is Nigh.
Edited, Mon May 3 17:45:20 2004 by tarv
Vs Steven Segal: Forced to be ofencive against the counter offencive Aikedo style of Segal Lee would triumph with a vision blurring side kick that has the Big man demoted to 'Dish Washer'
Vs Jean Claude Van Sakiman: Van damn does the splits, Lee kicks him in the face , The end.
Vs Jet Li: They decide that Killing David Carredine is more important and set of to kick ****** ***.
Vs Chan: Bruce incapacitated by an under and over roundhouse push bike manuver, while tied in knots with phone cable, the end is Nigh.
Edited, Mon May 3 17:45:20 2004 by tarv
I like Bruce Lee and all, but the reality is that any world class Jujitsu or Akido competitor would have killed him. He was just too small.
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If you put the world greastest wing Chun Kung Fu Master and Jeet Do Master agasint Bruce Lee they will not win a match of the Greatest master Bruce Lee in really life he fought Jackie and Bruce broke Jackie noise if you watch Jackie Chen adventure during the end the real jackie did meet Bruce and when Jackie was on set on a fight sence bruce broke his Jackie nosie it was by mistake the next day Bruce appliogy to Jackieaif you put any Martail arts agasint bruce they would not stand a chance
If you put the world greastest wing Chun Kung Fu Master and Jeet Do Master agasint Bruce Lee they will not win a match of the Greatest master Bruce Lee in really life he fought Jackie and Bruce broke Jackie noise if you watch Jackie Chen adventure during the end the real jackie did meet Bruce and when Jackie was on set on a fight sence bruce broke his Jackie nosie it was by mistake the next day Bruce appliogy to Jackieaif you put any Martail arts agasint bruce they would not stand a chance
No, really. There's probably 30 or 40 people that would have beat him easily. It's just a diffrence in techniqe and leverage. The sad facts of the world are that the 140 pound guy who studies a striking martial art will get killed by the 210 pound guy who studies a grappling martial art.
Sorry to ruin the fantasy for you.
Sorry to ruin the fantasy for you.
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If you put the world greastest wing Chun Kung Fu Master and Jeet Do Master agasint Bruce Lee they will not win a match of the Greatest master Bruce Lee in really life he fought Jackie and Bruce broke Jackie noise if you watch Jackie Chen adventure during the end the real jackie did meet Bruce and when Jackie was on set on a fight sence bruce broke his Jackie nosie it was by mistake the next day Bruce appliogy to Jackieaif you put any Martail arts agasint bruce they would not stand a chance
If you put the world greastest wing Chun Kung Fu Master and Jeet Do Master agasint Bruce Lee they will not win a match of the Greatest master Bruce Lee in really life he fought Jackie and Bruce broke Jackie noise if you watch Jackie Chen adventure during the end the real jackie did meet Bruce and when Jackie was on set on a fight sence bruce broke his Jackie nosie it was by mistake the next day Bruce appliogy to Jackieaif you put any Martail arts agasint bruce they would not stand a chance
Hi, my name is Mr. Period. .
I don't think we've met.
So ... how many of these guys besides Allakhazam have actually won world championships in actual fights?
BL > All and then some.
Smasharoo and I do not agree all that often, but in this he is correct, hell even a little conservative in his figures.
I imagine if Bruce Lee were alive today, in his physcial prime that there would easily be between 200-400 fighters that could hand him his ***.
Size matters.
I do not speak out of my rear on this one.
This is my school. I am the head instructor and I see it every time I am at the dojo.
Take two students of equal ability, or even vaguely equal ability. One student is 5'5 and 140lbs, the other is 6'2 220. The big guy will win 10 times out of 10, at least in a serious fight. (Point sparring not included)
My instructor use to say..."The bigger they are, the harder they hit."
This is the truth. Not only are big guys generally able to deliver a big time punch, but they also tend to be able to take a better beating.
Bruce Lee was a good actor and a good martial artist. The reason he was on movies was not because he was the greatest martial artist alive, but rather that he could fight, act and was marginally good looking.
Fumio Demura does not appear in film, he is a hell of a martial artist, but most likely an atrocious actor. The prime skill required to be in a movie is not your ability to fight, but rather to act.
Tacosid
Edited, Sat Jun 5 03:43:22 2004 by Tacosid
I imagine if Bruce Lee were alive today, in his physcial prime that there would easily be between 200-400 fighters that could hand him his ***.
Size matters.
I do not speak out of my rear on this one.
This is my school. I am the head instructor and I see it every time I am at the dojo.
Take two students of equal ability, or even vaguely equal ability. One student is 5'5 and 140lbs, the other is 6'2 220. The big guy will win 10 times out of 10, at least in a serious fight. (Point sparring not included)
My instructor use to say..."The bigger they are, the harder they hit."
This is the truth. Not only are big guys generally able to deliver a big time punch, but they also tend to be able to take a better beating.
Bruce Lee was a good actor and a good martial artist. The reason he was on movies was not because he was the greatest martial artist alive, but rather that he could fight, act and was marginally good looking.
Fumio Demura does not appear in film, he is a hell of a martial artist, but most likely an atrocious actor. The prime skill required to be in a movie is not your ability to fight, but rather to act.
Tacosid
Edited, Sat Jun 5 03:43:22 2004 by Tacosid
I voted for the other guy.
ShadowHerro wrote:
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If you put the world greastest wing Chun Kung Fu Master and Jeet Do Master agasint Bruce Lee they will not win a match of the Greatest master Bruce Lee in really life he fought Jackie and Bruce broke Jackie noise if you watch Jackie Chen adventure during the end the real jackie did meet Bruce and when Jackie was on set on a fight sence bruce broke his Jackie nosie it was by mistake the next day Bruce appliogy to Jackieaif you put any Martail arts agasint bruce they would not stand a chance
If you put the world greastest wing Chun Kung Fu Master and Jeet Do Master agasint Bruce Lee they will not win a match of the Greatest master Bruce Lee in really life he fought Jackie and Bruce broke Jackie noise if you watch Jackie Chen adventure during the end the real jackie did meet Bruce and when Jackie was on set on a fight sence bruce broke his Jackie nosie it was by mistake the next day Bruce appliogy to Jackieaif you put any Martail arts agasint bruce they would not stand a chance
While BL was fast and strong, I don't know about his technique. But I would doubt he would've been able to match the world's greatest Wing Chun masters. He may have been the best Jeet Kune Do practioner, but probably only because he invented the style.
As for completely different styles from other cultures like Aikido and Jujitsu, I wouldn't know how to compare them - Kung Fu I know, but I can't say anything about the styles of other cultures (well, I do know Tae Kwon Do as well, but I feel it is more of an olympic sport than an effective fighting style).
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Hi, my name is Mr. Period. .
Any relation to Aunt Flo?
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As for completely different styles from other cultures like Aikido and Jujitsu, I wouldn't know how to compare them - Kung Fu I know, but I can't say anything about the styles of other cultures (well, I do know Tae Kwon Do as well, but I feel it is more of an olympic sport than an effective fighting style).
Akido, which I've studied for, holy **** almost twenty years, and Jujitsu, which I've dabbled with on and off for probably ten are simmilar in many ways. While Akido is more philsophical and Jujitso more practical both are essentially at their hearts grappling/throwing/breaking/submission arts. As opposed to Jeet Kun Do or whatever form of striking/kicking/blocking martial art you want to name.
In my head, this is what would happen if Lee fought an Akido or Jujitsu master of comeptiton status (as opposed to say, me). Lee would hit them a few times as they covered up and ran towards him, possibly injuring them slightly. Then they'd get hold of him and he'd be unconcious in about thirty seconds. It's just simple leverage. If you and I are in a street fight and you weigh 140 pounds, I'm going to win. You might hurt me a little, but at some point I'm going to get hold of you and either break, choke, or put you in excruciating pain untill you submit.
It's not bravado, it's just the way it is. It's why they have wright classes in every martial sport.
Edited, Mon May 3 23:57:58 2004 by Smasharoo
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Hoyce Gracie is a perfect example, except he himself was a small guy, but he was strong, and extremely skilled.
Out of the matches he won(lots), he often walked away with a BIG bump on his head, getting stung on his way in, but he won none the less. He was rather remarkable as he normally fought guys that weighed 60-80 more pounds than him. His style is Brazilian Jujitso.
Just watch UFC, the grapplers win everytime.
Edited, Tue May 4 00:11:11 2004 by Reinman
Out of the matches he won(lots), he often walked away with a BIG bump on his head, getting stung on his way in, but he won none the less. He was rather remarkable as he normally fought guys that weighed 60-80 more pounds than him. His style is Brazilian Jujitso.
Just watch UFC, the grapplers win everytime.
Edited, Tue May 4 00:11:11 2004 by Reinman
I'm not an expert but every street fight i've seen or been in (not for a long time) has involved two guys rolling around on the ground after punching eachother a couple times. And yah the big guy has always won.
Royce Gracie (it's pronounced "hoyce") was *at his lightest* around 180-185. Bruce was 145 at his heaviest. There is a certain point of diminishing returns, of course, meaning that Yao Ming's not going to beat Lenox Lewis in a street fight. 200 lbs seems to be the point of demarkation for fighting. You can weigh 200 and do ok against the gus who are 250, but it's nearly impossible for the 145 guys to do well agains tthe 200 pounders.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
I'll sum the arguments so far:
Was Bruce Lee the best martial artists of his time?
Out of anyone that was famous, he was probably one of the best.
Could he have beat anyone on the planet?
doubtful, too small
Could he have beat anyone in his weight class?
possibly, perhaps even likely
Could he have won a no-holds barred match "i.e. including grappling?"
within his weight class possibly, although his style was more tailored to traditional stand-up fighting
Was Bruce Lee the best martial artists of his time?
Out of anyone that was famous, he was probably one of the best.
Could he have beat anyone on the planet?
doubtful, too small
Could he have beat anyone in his weight class?
possibly, perhaps even likely
Could he have won a no-holds barred match "i.e. including grappling?"
within his weight class possibly, although his style was more tailored to traditional stand-up fighting
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While shooting for movies he had to tone down his kicks and punches. They were literally too fast for the camera to catch them.
i like Bruce but im not so sure about this one.
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The sad facts of the world are that the 140 pound guy who studies a striking martial art will get killed by the 210 pound guy who studies a grappling martial art.
you guys do know he was a grappler too right? he breathed ate slept **** fighting and was very intelligent so im thinking he knew the importance of grappling techniques.
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I'm not an expert but every street fight i've seen or been in (not for a long time) has involved two guys rolling around on the ground after punching eachother a couple times. And yah the big guy has always won.
tell that to ken shamrock after gracie about broke his arm.
laters
I think i mentioned in the Bruce Lee thread that non of th above would last 30 seconds in a fight with the Gracies.
Totally true it is common practice since most if not all of the lighter martial artist are to fast for the camera to pick up.
I am sure Smash has been to demonstrations of stick fighting if he's done Aikedo for 10 years and he will back me up when i say that when a talented stick fighter gets into a rythem it is near impossible to see the sticks all you see is a blur.
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While shooting for movies he had to tone down his kicks and punches. They were literally too fast for the camera to catch them.
i like Bruce but im not so sure about this one.
i like Bruce but im not so sure about this one.
I am sure Smash has been to demonstrations of stick fighting if he's done Aikedo for 10 years and he will back me up when i say that when a talented stick fighter gets into a rythem it is near impossible to see the sticks all you see is a blur.
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it is near impossible to see the sticks all you see is a blur.
and its more impressive when all you see is a blur. i would think that in movies youd want to impress people. i think he had to tone it down to prevent from hurting people accidently.
laters
Bloodred wrote:
you guys do know he was a grappler too right? he breathed ate slept **** fighting and was very intelligent so im thinking he knew the importance of grappling techniques.
I think just about any martial art includes grappling training. Even in Tae Kwon Do, which is just about the furthest toward the 'completely striking' end of the spectrum, we were taught several grappling techniques.
I think what Smash was getting at was that arts focused toward grappling are superior to 'striking' arts.. I don't know about this, since I have no way to compare these sorts of things - even though I've trained in several (two vastly different types of Kung Fu and Tae Kwon Do) and went to an introductory class for Aikido (because it was free! heh). I'm sure most would be somewhat biased toward whichever art they've trained in though. ;)
Has anyone mentioned that styles are often prgressive and a large number of fighters cross-train and blend styles to create newer more damaging arts? Today's fighter would be more well-rounded and able to counter better with a varied blend of styles whether bordering on grappling/striking/submission or whatever....I don't even know why I am replying to this I've only trained in kickboxing (western) and that's more because of my size than ability. Anyway let's all just enjoy the prospect of Bruce Lee killing a half japanese/half white guy in a white Gi with a red headband with his foot flying through the air engulfed in flames...wait...
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