Smasharoo - Harvard?Follow

Sure. Keep in mind, however, that the buisness school is on the other side of the river in Boston, whereas the Social Sciences Graduate School is in Cambridge, so I've been on the BS campus maybe twice in my life.

Oh, and get a PhD in economics or something. Everyone and their brother has an MBA these days.

Edited, Sat May 1 11:31:05 2004 by Smasharoo

Hahh-vahd. And you must point with your chin while speaking.

That's only movie where you get to see Jamie Lee's cleavage!

Boston's a great place to be a student. Definately the best place in the US.

Dunno my alma matter ASU was rated as the top party school by Playboy, hey education smeducation... BEER BONGS and drunk coeds is where its at.

Well, let's see.

1) There's more college students per capita than in any city in the US.

2) You can walk to everything. Boston is like a semi-circle around the harbor and you can probably literally walk from one end to the other in an hour.

3) Even if you couldn't walk everywhere there's superb public transportation. The MBTA subay, or "T" runs all over Boston and the surrounding cities.

4) Between MIT, Harvard, Welsley, Tufts, BU, BC, and Northeastern you pretty much the top minds in any feild you'd want to study. That's not to mention Berkelee (music), MassART (visual arts), Emmerson (communnications), Stonehill, Simmons, UMASS, Brandies, or the other thirty colleges in the area.

5) The Red Sox play there!

6) If you're into "culture" you're talking about a city with two world wamous Orchastra's the Pops and the BSO, probably 20 theatres (most Broadway shows open Boston first to see how they play) a Ballet company, an open air theatre on the Charles River that has free concerts nearly every weekend, The Boston MFA, the Gardner Museam, the numerous Harvard museams, The Boston Public Library, the MIT MediaLab, and on and on and on.

7) A big "hipster" scene, as in midnight showings of Donnie Darko, after hours rave clubs, that sort of thing fueled by so many young sucessfull people in the city.

8) Low crine rates, liberal government, more public "green space" than any city it's size, the Ocean's right there, Cape Cod is an hour away, Sugarbush (if you SKI) is three hours away, NYC is four hours away

I don't know. I've been to San Diego it struck me that I'd be bored to death in a week, there, but then I'm not a west coast kind of guy.

There's a reason the children of welath and privlidge go to school in New England.

Edited, Sat May 1 16:15:48 2004 by Smasharoo

I would expect that has a lot more to do with momentum then anything else. Lots of stodgy busisness types went to School there, so they tend to preferentially hire from those schools. Everyone pretty much knows this, so they continue to send their moron kids to those schools, knowing that as long as they're donating to the alumni fund, their kids pretty much have a guaranteed degree and career. It's pretty much a given that you can essentially buy a degree from schools like Harvard.

From what I've heard from insiders in the education profession, the actual qualtity of your education (especially at Harvard) has gone seriously downhil in the last 20 years. But for the most part, if you are in business or law, a degree from pretty much any ivy league school is an almost guaranteed hire. I guess it all really depends on whether you want to learn anything, or you take the more pragmatic approach that a degree==job, so nothing else really matters, so why not get a degree at a school most likely to net you a job?


I do tend to agree that the range of night life in SD is kinda limited. But unless you're one of those same stodgy types who's all into artsy junk (symphonies, plays, the arts, whatever), you wont miss it. If you're into rowdy parties at the beach late at night, and a pretty nice club scene, without the yukkiness that is LA and/or NY, San Diego's got it. The west coast in general is a much more laid back scene. You don't go to "official" functions (like symphonies, although we do have them). And none of that debutante ball garbage (although east coast transplants keep trying to get them going even though no one really cares). Parties tend to be more private affairs. You'll hear about something going on from a friend of a friend, or you'll get into a circle of people who know other people, etc... It keeps the riff raff tourists out. And the hot chick ratio is ridiculous...

I don't see it as a choice between West Coast and East Coast, more Harvard versus Wharton. What is Philly like? I hated Pittsburgh, but I suppose that isn't a good enogh reason to hate all of Pennsylvania.

That ones that don't teach at Harvard I imagine.

I'm shocked. Shocked I say.

I don't think the quality of education at Harvard has changed at all. What I do think has happened is grade inflation. When I was there, 90 percent of the undergrads graduated *** Laude. In my father's day (not that he went to Harvard, or college for that matter) probably 20 percent of the class graduated *** Laude. It used to be that "C" from Harvard was considered a honorable grade, but now, with over-involved parents and High Schools where B+ is the average grade things have deteriorated.

What that translates to is that it's easier to do "well" at Harvard, so that the value *to an employer* of someone with a *** Laude Harvard undergrad degree is likely less than it was twenty years ago, but the quality of the education isn't lessened any.

You could make the argument that you could learn just as much about whatever your feild of study is at UCSD, or USD, or San Diego State as you could at Harvard, but you'd be wrong.

It's about resources more than anything else. Not to mention the peer group you go to school with. A school like UCSD just isn't going to have the same resources to be able to draw the level of faculty that Harvard does, not to mention visiting professors, alums, world figures, etc. Alos, contrary to popular belief, I found the faculty at Harvard to be very aproachable and involved in their students progress.

Is it $15,000 a year of better education than UC Berkley, or whatever the best public school is considered to be these days? Probably not. Is it better? Certainly.

Edited, Sun May 2 12:51:18 2004 by Smasharoo

Will be applying in the Fall. Lots of research to do yet.

He sells ******* like you!

Friend of mine just finished his MBA at the Harvard Business School, seems to do him well. Course he was well to do to start...



You sound like my mother.. who has 2 masters, and a PhD in Corporate Finance...

Nice avatar Reinman.

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