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#152 Apr 27 2004 at 9:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, Jesus is a myth,


From what I understand most everyone believes that he existed, just that he wasn't the "Son of God". So the myth thing is wrong, he did live and die...what happened after that is where the different religeons...well differ.
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#153 Apr 27 2004 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
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If the boat exists then we at least know we have a somewhat historic accoutn of an actual event rather than just a plain and simple fairy tale.

Actually, if the "mysterious object" actually proves to be a boat then the only thing we'll know for sure is that it's a boat.

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#154 Apr 27 2004 at 10:09 PM Rating: Decent
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When I looked at the picture of the "ark", I thoguht it looked suspiciously like a Star Destroyer. Wouldn't that be something!
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#155 Apr 27 2004 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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If Satan gets a chance to see this thread he is going to be very pleased. So many new young people on their way to him...


Not to flame but that is about the most ignorant thing to say...have you been reading the posts at all or just 2 or 3 and skip to the bottom?

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#156 Apr 27 2004 at 10:36 PM Rating: Good
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I bet Satan's hot.

Hee-hee.

Get it?

Ya see... It's a double-entendre.

No, seriously. Get it?

Anything? Anything at all?

Echo! Echo!

Oh, forget it.

Morons.
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#157 Apr 27 2004 at 10:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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If Satan gets a chance to see this thread he is going to be very pleased. So many new young people on their way to him...


I am not that young, and yes she is excited, she knows her forces are a million times more intellegent than her enemies.

And yes Satan is hot, I love that red leather she always wears.

Spank me again, oh dark one!
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#158 Apr 27 2004 at 11:31 PM Rating: Good
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She bakes some hella good sinner-brownies too. Who would have thought that sinners rose so well in the oven?

Mmmm.... brownies.....
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#159 Apr 28 2004 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Hence, why this was in the Science section of CNN. Yes. It does just prove that a boat is there, or not there. However, as others have pointed out, that will provide valuable information about the validity of the flood myth. A myth that is so widespread that most historians agree it must have some common origin. This could well be part of that original story.


I'd also like to point out that while assuming everything in the bible is true because it's in the bible is wrong, it is also equally wrong to assume everything in the bible is false just because it's in the bible. Same wrong logic. Just going the other direction. Many (most) historical events in the bible have at least some historical validity (and verification from sources other then the bible). Take away the religious significance, and we're still looking at an oral history. Much of that oral history has been confirmed via other sources. Why not this?


That's what I was trying to say but Smash made fun of me ;_;
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#160 Apr 28 2004 at 12:28 AM Rating: Decent
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While many people seem to be upset when religious people attempt to spread their faith, I think it should be noted that whatever their methods, they have some sort of good intention in mind. They might be completely wrong, but they think they are right and they want to share it with you.

On the other hand, this thread has shown me that those who do not share such faith seem content to call everyone who disagrees with them "morons" or "idiots" or just make fun of them in general.

I don't know, I think I'd rather have a friend who believes in something crazy, than a "friend" who laughs at me for trying to explain what I believe in that he does not happen to share.

Or maybe I am just crazy.

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#161 Apr 28 2004 at 12:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't know, I think I'd rather have a friend who believes in something crazy, than a "friend" who laughs at me for trying to explain what I believe in that he does not happen to share.


Yea, Mohammed Atta believed in some crazy things, I see your point. This is one of the worst ones yet. Moron!
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#162 Apr 28 2004 at 1:13 AM Rating: Good
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While many people seem to be upset when religious people attempt to spread their faith, I think it should be noted that whatever their methods, they have some sort of good intention in mind.


Rabid atheists annoy me, that much we can agree on.

I don't have a problem with someone who shares their beliefs when it's appropriate to do so, or when they are prompted. However, unsolicited proselytizing pisses me off to no end. It's extremely disrespectful. Thankfully, that has not happened in this thread.

I disagree with your assumption that people generally attempt to convert others out of a desire to do good. I believe they do it out of insecurity.

"The constant assertion of belief is an indication of fear." (This quote holds true for atheists as well)

They're trying to convince themselves.

But that's all just the opinion of a cynical jerk-off.
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#163 Apr 28 2004 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Thundra, have you accepted Jesus into your life?

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#164 Apr 28 2004 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm well into my adult years.

Oh, by the way, Satan is a fictional character too.
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#165 Apr 28 2004 at 1:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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And yes Satan is hot, I love that red leather she always wears.

Spank me again, oh dark one!


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Oh, by the way, Satan is a fictional character too.


Oh I see, must have been the wife.
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#166 Apr 28 2004 at 3:32 AM Rating: Good
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If Satan gets a chance to see this thread he is going to be very pleased. So many new young people on their way to him...
If gods only deciding factor of wether or not i join him in 'Heaven' is nothing more than belief in his sorry *** then yes lots and lots of people are going to hell

I am with Yanari God and all his associated cronies are Fiction and jesus is based on a 1st centuary Demagogue who was trying to **** of the romans.

'Blessed are the meek. oh i'm glad about that, they have a hell of a time'
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From what I understand most everyone believes that he existed, just that he wasn't the "Son of God". So the myth thing is wrong, he did live and die...what happened after that is where the different religeons...well differ.
I happen to beieve he did exsist no more of a 'Son of god' than i am.

However he is only mention once in any real historical records and that was a pretty weak and possibly forged passage.

The reason i believe he exsisted even on this weak evidance is purely why forge a passage to prove someone who didn't exsist did. i think it is more likely that it was forged to bump his importance since he was already forgotten about.

Religion to justify to yourself that you must act a certain way is a bad thing.


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#167 Apr 28 2004 at 6:19 AM Rating: Good
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The reason i believe he exsisted even on this weak evidance is purely why forge a passage to prove someone who didn't exsist did.


That's the whole reason you HAVE to forge the passage. If someone didn't exist there would be no historical record of them, so in order to make people believe he did exist you would have to forge a historical document referring to him.

If he did exist, why bother forging anything? Then all you have to do is point to the accurate historical documents about him.
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#168 Apr 28 2004 at 7:30 AM Rating: Decent
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If he did exist, why bother forging anything? Then all you have to do is point to the accurate historical documents about him.



Maybe he wasn't considered important enough in his day to get written about?
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#169 Apr 28 2004 at 7:31 AM Rating: Good
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He could have exsisted but not been ignored by the historians because he was nothing but a Minor Demagogue.
To then justify the fact they where basing thier book of faith around this Demagogue they would then have had to legitamise him.
That someone exsisted called Jesus and he was executed for rable rousing against the Romans is not far fetched, even Smash would agree with that.
What makes the whole 'son of God' story stupid to me is not the fact a guy called Jesus exsisted it's that he he died and came back to life bullsh*t.
I can even cope with the virgin birth since then, even more than now, children born out of wedlock would have deriled and denying sex ever took place and passing it off as an act of god sounds to me like a convienient get out to me.
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#170 Apr 28 2004 at 8:08 AM Rating: Decent
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#171 Apr 28 2004 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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the film is on the tip of my tongue moeb, whos keizer soze again?
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#172 Apr 28 2004 at 8:21 AM Rating: Decent
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#173 Apr 28 2004 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
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damn it
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#174 Apr 28 2004 at 8:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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The reason i believe he exsisted even on this weak evidance is purely why forge a passage to prove someone who didn't exsist did. i think it is more likely that it was forged to bump his importance since he was already forgotten about.


Try this on for size. They were most likely crucifying guys named Jesus every week, take your pick. I always liked that carpenter, lets use him.
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#175 Apr 28 2004 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
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From what I understand most everyone believes that he existed, just that he wasn't the "Son of God".

Most people believe in ghosts, angels and UFOs too.
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#176 Apr 28 2004 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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They were most likely crucifying guys named Jesus every week, take your pick. I always liked that carpenter, lets use him.


i agree, somebody sat around and said, why are we here, and his drunken friend says "erm, some guys created something and his son is on earth right now, lets make up a story and attach it to some random criminal" hehe
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