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#102 Apr 27 2004 at 4:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Or am I way off here?


You are way off.

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If there is no God and no reward then what is the point of life?


Who said there is one?

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Just run around like crazy for 80 or so years and then do it all over again.


I may be wrong, but I think you only go around once.

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If thats the case stop the bus...cuz I want off!


Don't you want to see what is going to happen next?

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And you can have free will with a God, a God that doesn't want slaves or robots that are forced to follow him.


We are a really old project for god, that went wrong, he hardly ever plays with us anymore. Maybe we are just a game of "Sid Meyers Civilizations" to him? My money is on the Indians, from India.

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If there is evil in the world, which we all agree there is, then there has to good in the world as well. Where did these two things come from? Apes?


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Someone had to set the bar of evilness, and someone had to do the same with good


No evil, No good, just people.





Edited, Tue Apr 27 17:31:58 2004 by Reinman
#103 Apr 27 2004 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
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God is a blanket term. God could be the 8 armed Elephant thing from India or Bin Ladden Allah dude, or Jesus, or even your parents when you are in middle school.

#104 Apr 27 2004 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
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The point of LIFE is to get to the end with the most money and assets. That way you win.

The point of life is just to live. Nothing more, nothing less. And no I don't think you get to doi it all again. You just get the one shot. Once the synapses quit firing, game over.

Good and Evil are devices of the human mind. It's all based on your perception. That which helps you is regarded as good, that which harms you is evil. As humans have banded together to form groups or societies, good and evil has become based largely on its affect on the whole. Not everything that you or I believe to be evil is considered the same all over the world.

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#105 Apr 27 2004 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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My vote is "way off".

You can not have free will and an omniscient, omnipotent god. Not the version the christian bible teaches, anyway.

The bible states clearly that everyone's name is already known to god and either you're in the book of life or you're not, ergo, it is predetermined whether or not you get into heaven, ergo you are powerless to change it, ergo all free will is illusory.

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the story goes that God gave us free will so that we could choose to love him or hate him
Since dieties are fictional characters I stand firmly in the "indifferent" camp.

#106 Apr 27 2004 at 4:26 PM Rating: Good
Re: Johnny Bravo..^^ there...

Can someone permanently remove the Ayn rand from this person's ******?

Eb

P.S. Probably believes every word of the Liber Legis and The Book of Law, too.



Edited, Tue Apr 27 17:27:35 2004 by pickleprince
#107 Apr 27 2004 at 4:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Some of my best friends are named Jesus.


And trunks says you don't have anything good to say. Say your sorry trunks.

edited becasue I accidently capitalized trunks name
#108 Apr 27 2004 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I guess the most important thing is that we all can make our choice and no one can tell us otherwise. I believe what I believe for a reason, and the same for everyone else.

Trying to scientificly prove this is pointless, and I don't think that is the ark, nor do I care, we won't know if the choices we made in our lives were right or wrong till we die.

But at the same time, not believing in any God is almost like not playing that Lotto ticket...yeah you might not win, but then again, you just might get lucky and draw the right numbers...I'm atleast going to play and see what happens. Bad analogy but its the best I can think of at 2 am.
#109 Apr 27 2004 at 4:29 PM Rating: Good
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I think the world would be better off without the notion of a superior being as a creator. As too many people rely on 'God' for help. You got a problem? Solve it yourself and quit the praying.
#110 Apr 27 2004 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
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Believing in god is like betting on red or black on a roulette wheel. 50/50 chance but low return if you win.
#111 Apr 27 2004 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I know alot of people who don't belive in God, until something bad happens...either their parents die, they blame God for it, or they are hurt or whatever and blame God, or even better when they are in a situation like I am in now, and suddenly they are all about God and finding the truth.

Like I said everyone has their reasons, I know mine and that is what drives my faith.
#112 Apr 27 2004 at 4:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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But at the same time, not believing in any God is almost like not playing that Lotto ticket...yeah you might not win, but then again, you just might get lucky and draw the right numbers...I'm atleast going to play and see what happens


Live you life as a moral human being and you shouldn't need to care.
#113 Apr 27 2004 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Live you life as a moral human being and you shouldn't need to care.


But what if that isn't enough. Thats just a risk that I am personally not willing to take.
#114 Apr 27 2004 at 4:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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But what if that isn't enough. Thats just a risk that I am personally not willing to take.


If thats not enough, I don't want to go to that Pricks party anyway.

Edited due to "Pricks" reffering to God and therefore should be capitalized, Tue Apr 27 17:49:52 2004 by Reinman

Edited, Tue Apr 27 17:57:23 2004 by Reinman
#115 Apr 27 2004 at 4:48 PM Rating: Good
Tape,

Are you saying that God is bullying you into believing h/Him?

Whoa...

Eb

#116 Apr 27 2004 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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People are being coersed into believing in god with the promise of eternal paridise after they die.
#117 Apr 27 2004 at 4:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Definatly not, I mean the occasional horse head in my bed when I wake up if I dont bless my food...but that happens to everyone.

This post is all about doing and believing what you think is right, and that is what I do. But when it comes to not believing anything at all, in my opinion I would atleast pick a team. Like he said 50/50 is better then 0.
#118 Apr 27 2004 at 4:53 PM Rating: Good
Tape,

I hear ya.

My Agnosticism is not a Front.

Eb
#119 Apr 27 2004 at 4:53 PM Rating: Excellent
What about the 10 commandments?

Though shalt not worship false gods.

This says nothing about people who worship nothing, so you would be dooming yourself by picking the wrong team.
#120 Apr 27 2004 at 4:53 PM Rating: Good
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I didn't choose a team, i'm a neutral spectator.
#121 Apr 27 2004 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
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What about the 10 commandments?

Though shalt not worship false gods.

This says nothing about people who worship nothing, so you would be dooming yourself by picking the wrong team.


Well that is saying that you believe the 10 commandments are real, and if they are, I am worshiping the God that wrote them, so....I can't lose!

And people who worship nothing, well it does say that you are either for or against God, no middle ground or "grey" area. is it grey or gray?
#122 Apr 27 2004 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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Their is no 'grey' area, but their is a fence. And its quite comfortable to sit on. Thank you very much.
#123 Apr 27 2004 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I lean more toward that fence too in most cases. But in that case there wouldn't be anything to argue about on the boards.
#124 Apr 27 2004 at 5:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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And people who worship nothing, well it does say that you are either for or against God, no middle ground or "grey" area. is it grey or gray?


If God minds his own business, so will I. If I am having an outing, or a dinner party, I will invite him, he can make up his own mind if he wants to come.

If he is real then I am reminded of, "Don't **** on my head and tell me it's rainin'." I would have to get him back for this one.
#125 Apr 27 2004 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
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But when it comes to not believing anything at all, in my opinion I would atleast pick a team
I have very firm beliefs.

I believe God, the easter bunny, Cinderella, Santa Claus and Oliver Twist are all fictional characters.
#126 Apr 27 2004 at 5:13 PM Rating: Good
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That be a good party. If things went wrong God would probably kill all the first born and send a swarm of locusts to eat the food.
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