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#77 Apr 27 2004 at 11:09 AM Rating: Excellent
This is great, I love christians.

Jesus loves me this I know, because the bible tells me so.

Prayerfully consider this, who has the most to gain from disproving that this is the ark?

Why is smash arguing so vehemently against the possibility?

Smash = Satan

Run Smash!
#78 Apr 27 2004 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Why are christians still seeking imperical proof of their mythology? It rather smacks of a lack of faith.

If it is proven that the impression in the ground was made by a boat, it proves nothing other than that a boat made an impression in the ground.

Didn't the bible say straight out not to mock god by demanding proof of his existance?

Follow the teachings of your faith. I know that's a novel concept and all, but give it a try. I promise we unbelievers would find you a much less bothersome lot if you did.

Didn't the canadian cable providers stop carrying the history channel because they insist on airing loads of religious programs and presenting them as historical truth?
#79 Apr 27 2004 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Just because you have faith in God does not mean the revelation of real elements from your faith won't excite you. Heck, we get excited by imaginary numbers in video games all the time. Many of us spend more effort and time "working" in games than we work to get real money.

For me, I have much more "faith" in non material things than I do in money and the like... but it doesn't mean the chance to win/earn lots of money doesn't make me take a second look at something.

Now, if you say you have faith, but NEED evidence to justify it, that's a different story. Faith precedes the miracle, not the other way around. But it does not mean a man of faith does not like to see miracles happen!
#80 Apr 27 2004 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good
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You are all missing the most important part of this thread omfg.

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When's my expidition to the North Pole to show that a small building discovered there is Santa's Workshop?


Are you trying to tell me there is no Santa?!?
#81 Apr 27 2004 at 3:13 PM Rating: Good
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Didn't the canadian cable providers stop carrying the history channel because they insist on airing loads of religious programs and presenting them as historical truth?
Only if you're forming a religion out of Hitler and WWII.
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#82 Apr 27 2004 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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The bible is simply a collection of stories, mostly taken from other religions, to try to prove the existence of a higher power.

I'm tired of God. If there is a God, he's an *******. If there was a Jesus, he was a schmuck... he died for nothing. Look at the world and it's inhabitants and what we do to each other day after day. If God or Jesus truly are benign, why wouldn't they completely destroy this planet and start over with a species not hell bent on destorying itself?

Grady

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#83 Apr 27 2004 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good
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Amen to that.
#84 Apr 27 2004 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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I'm tired of God. If there is a God, he's an @#%^. If there was a Jesus, he's was a schmuck... he died for nothing. Look at the world and it's inhabitants and what we do to each other day after day. If God or Jesus truly are benign, why wouldn't they completely destroy this planet and start over with a species not hell bent on destorying itself?

Still not getting any, eh?
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#85 Apr 27 2004 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm tired of God. If there is a God, he's an @#%^. If there was a Jesus, he was a schmuck... he died for nothing. Look at the world and it's inhabitants and what we do to each other day after day. If God or Jesus truly are benign, why wouldn't they completely destroy this planet and start over with a species not hell bent on destorying itself?


The last thing I want to do is get in a argument over religon, I for one am not religeous, I belive in God and Jesus, not what some dude 100 years ago thinks the church should do or whatever. BUT, the story goes that God gave us free will so that we could choose to love him or hate him. Thats why there is so much crap on the earth, free will.

Kinda like having that girlfriend we all had at one time that would do anything you wanted...cool for awhile, but got boring.
#86 Apr 27 2004 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
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The arguement goes something like this.

"i refuse to prove i exsist" says God "for proof denies faith and without faith i am nothing"

"But" says man "Noah's ark is a dead give away isn't it. It couldn't be there by chance. It prooves you exsist and so therefore, by your own arguements, you dont. QED"

"Oh dear" says God " i hadn't thought of it that way" and promptly disapears in a puff of logic.

"that was easy" said Smash, and for an encore proves trunks is gay and gets shafted at the next forum Party.
#87 Apr 27 2004 at 3:54 PM Rating: Good
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That's a poor excuse, 'free will'. Besides god doesn't exist anyway. We cause all the **** ups ourselves.
#88 Apr 27 2004 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
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that was easy" said Smash, and for an encore proves trunks is gay and gets shafted at the next forum Party

And then I prove white is black and get killed at the next Zebra corssing. Fortunately, though my towel can be used to hide this carnage from onlookers.
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#89 Apr 27 2004 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
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How is free will a "poor excuse" you saying that it doesn't exist?
#90 Apr 27 2004 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
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And for all of you who say there is no God, I challenge you to walk into a high class strip club and tell me that...you look me in the eyes and tell me that!
#91 Apr 27 2004 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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And then I prove white is black


Didn't Michael Jackson already try this?


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#92 Apr 27 2004 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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Yanari the Puissant wrote:
Why are christians still seeking imperical proof of their mythology? It rather smacks of a lack of faith.

If it is proven that the impression in the ground was made by a boat, it proves nothing other than that a boat made an impression in the ground.


Hence, why this was in the Science section of CNN. Yes. It does just prove that a boat is there, or not there. However, as others have pointed out, that will provide valuable information about the validity of the flood myth. A myth that is so widespread that most historians agree it must have some common origin. This could well be part of that original story.


I'd also like to point out that while assuming everything in the bible is true because it's in the bible is wrong, it is also equally wrong to assume everything in the bible is false just because it's in the bible. Same wrong logic. Just going the other direction. Many (most) historical events in the bible have at least some historical validity (and verification from sources other then the bible). Take away the religious significance, and we're still looking at an oral history. Much of that oral history has been confirmed via other sources. Why not this?
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#93 Apr 27 2004 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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And for all of you who say there is no God, I challenge you to walk into a high class strip club and tell me that...you look me in the eyes and tell me that!
Sure i could remembering my wife is at home and would beat the living sh*t out of me for being in a strip bar.

But seriously if your idea of finding the perfect woman involves strip joints you really really need to try and set the bar just a tad higher than that.
#94 Apr 27 2004 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
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How is free will a "poor excuse" you saying that it doesn't exist?

No, I think he's saying it's an assanine cop out.

There is a God. He watches over us all. On the other hand we can do whatever we want want because of free will, so evil people get to live the best lives. But God will punish them! Really? Yeah, sure, now start sucking.


See the point? If you believe in free will, then you can't believe that Gos is omnicient. If he were he'd have to be able to see what was going to happen. In fact there are numerous examples of this in the Bible.

You can't have prophecy if you have free weill.

QED if you have God you don't have free will.
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#95 Apr 27 2004 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
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I'm not saying it doesn't exist. It's just that every religous argument of why evil exists in the world always starts with the 'free will' argument. God doesn't exist, free will developed when human beings evolved from apes and gained sentience.
#96 Apr 27 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kinda like having that girlfriend we all had at one time that would do anything you wanted...cool for awhile, but got boring.


Are you telling me you gave this away? I married mine!
#97 Apr 27 2004 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
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If there is no God and no reward then what is the point of life? Just run around like crazy for 80 or so years and then do it all over again.

If thats the case stop the bus...cuz I want off!

And you can have free will with a God, a God that doesn't want slaves or robots that are forced to follow him.

If there is evil in the world, which we all agree there is, then there has to good in the world as well. Where did these two things come from? Apes?

Someone had to set the bar of evilness, and someone had to do the same with good. Or am I way off here?
#98 Apr 27 2004 at 4:14 PM Rating: Good
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The reward of life is to live it. Not be stuck with an inane set of rules that stops people from living. You been in a church lately? Boooooriiiiiinnngggg. They could spruce it up with a disco ball or some strippers. Come on its the 21st century, adapt.
#99 Apr 27 2004 at 4:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm right there with you on church being boring. I think they have totally lost sight of what is important. Never understood the whole cross obsession anyways.

But what happened to all the evil on the earth and all the horrible things we do to each other and all the heart ache that "God" doesn't pay attention to...doesn't seem like much of a reward, more like a hassle. If this is it then I would have been better of never being born.
#100 Apr 27 2004 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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#101 Apr 27 2004 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
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Have you got a dollar bill? Look at it, can you see the 'in god we trust' part? God is the cause of the problems, he doesn't exist but the idea and belief that he does has caused problems for aslong as monotheism has existed. But in more recent times bin laden always says that 'god is ordering him to wage war on the western infidels' while america is 'praying' for succes against people who believe in the same omipotent being.

Ironic don't you think.
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