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#1 Apr 14 2004 at 7:34 AM Rating: Decent
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On Good Friday, from the head of the Anglican Church in Australia - "Today marks the single greatest event in the history of human life on this planet"

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I bet there are even a few Christians who won't quite agree with that one!!
#2 Apr 14 2004 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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"Single Greatest"? That depends on who you're asking. I think maybe "One of the most influential" would have been more accurate.
#3 Apr 14 2004 at 8:03 AM Rating: Decent

what day is it?
#4 Apr 14 2004 at 8:15 AM Rating: Good
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Good Friday is the commemoration of the crucifixion of Jesus. Obviously it's not the actual date of the event, but it's when it's "observed".

More importantly, it's the end of Lent Smiley: lol
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#5 Apr 14 2004 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
oh i thought good friday was just when everyone got out at school or w/e
#6 Apr 14 2004 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
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The single most influential event in the history of human life happened December 26, 1919. Smiley: mad
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#7 Apr 14 2004 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Trunksbrando wrote:
what day is it?
Trunks, haven't you said repeatedly that you're trying to live your life as a "good christian"?

You might want to add some weight to that statement by learning the major holy days.

After all, you can't have us infidels knowing more about it than you! Smiley: sly
#8 Apr 14 2004 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
yes that is true but i dont repeatedly say i try to be a good christian once maybe twice i have said it(i think?) but thanks for the info, now i know! =)
#9 Apr 14 2004 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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The single most influential event in the history of human life happened December 26, 1919. Smiley: mad


what "Yanks & Red Sox reach agreement on transfer of Babe Ruth "

huh
#10 Apr 14 2004 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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I bet there are even a few Christians who won't quite agree with that one!!

Well, if you're a true believer Christian, this would be the greatest day, since it was Jesus' redemption of the human race, thus allowing everyone to go to heaven.

err...well that's what I recall from sunday school anyway
#11 Apr 14 2004 at 5:36 PM Rating: Excellent
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the bleeding through every possible pore to take care of our sins, then the crucifixion was for our ability to go into the afterlife?

I thought that "technically" he didn't die for our sins, he bled profusely for them.
#12 Apr 14 2004 at 5:41 PM Rating: Good
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As a christian myself, I'd actually say that Easter is more important than Good Friday because of what it denotes: rather than the death of Jesus, it is his power over death which makes this holiday significant.

Feel free to pile on at any time naysayers and athiests.

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#13 Apr 14 2004 at 5:53 PM Rating: Good
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It's a semi-valid statement (if you're of the Christian persuasion).

Good Friday isn't specifically the celebration of the crucifixion. It's the celebration of the Covenant established between Jesus and his disciples (and presumably to everyone else). The Last Supper is when Jesus essentially finalizes his "deal" with mankind.

It's the New Testement equivalent to Moses on Mt. Sainai recieving the Ten Commandments from God. The ten commandments where the "old covenant", Jesus offeres a "new covenant" for salvation through him. Good Friday is basically the establishment of the Christian religion, and the source of its separation from Judaism.

That's why it's a big deal.
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#14 Apr 14 2004 at 6:21 PM Rating: Good
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I don't know of anyone who really "celebrates" Good Friday. It's more of an observation of the idea Christ died on the cross for us. Depending on how devout you are, you might go to church or whatever, but no one says "Happy Good Friday!" or whatever.
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It's the New Testement equivalent to Moses on Mt. Sainai recieving the Ten Commandments from God. The ten commandments where the "old covenant", Jesus offeres a "new covenant" for salvation through him. Good Friday is basically the establishment of the Christian religion, and the source of its separation from Judaism.


I'm gunna go out on a limb here and assume gbaji isn't talking out of his *** once again and ask: if this true then why are so many christians so adament about placing the ten commandments in couthouses and such, aside from the supposed assumtion that they are good words to live by?
#16 Apr 14 2004 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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It's a semi-valid statement (if you're of the Christian persuasion).

Good Friday isn't specifically the celebration of the crucifixion. It's the celebration of the Covenant established between Jesus and his disciples (and presumably to everyone else). The Last Supper is when Jesus essentially finalizes his "deal" with mankind.

It's the New Testement equivalent to Moses on Mt. Sainai recieving the Ten Commandments from God. The ten commandments where the "old covenant", Jesus offeres a "new covenant" for salvation through him. Good Friday is basically the establishment of the Christian religion, and the source of its separation from Judaism.

That's why it's a big deal.


Probably should be its own thread but, this kinda got me thinking, after Passion how many big movie companies are gonna go on the bible kick and start making movies, that are biblical, like a remake of "The Ten Commandments" or some such.
#17 Apr 14 2004 at 7:18 PM Rating: Good
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'Cause people are stupid Smiley: wink

Actually, I agree with Gbaji about the covenant thing (I know, fancy us agreeing on a religious point). There's really no reason to venerate the Ten Commandments over anything else, aside from the fact that it's ten fairly clear rules all in one place and easier reading than getting your lessons from psalms or the Gospels.
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#18 Apr 14 2004 at 7:18 PM Rating: Good
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why are so many christians so adament about placing the ten commandments in couthouses and such, aside from the supposed assumtion that they are good words to live by?

Because Judaism and Christianity share the same history up until the point of Jesus.

The Jewish "Torah" is the first 5 books of the Christian "Old Testament." (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy).
#19 Apr 14 2004 at 7:20 PM Rating: Good
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Because sometime in the 3rd century, when the "official" Bible was codified for the Catholic Church, and the laws, dogma, and whatever else was settled (more or less), the Ten Commandments were considered to still be a valuable guide to follow.

Jesus was a bit to ethereal in his teachings. It's hard to build a set of "rules" off of "do unto others as you'd have them do unto you". "Thou shalt not Kill", is much more direct.

You'll note that most of the other Judaic "laws" aren't really carried through. They kind of picked and chose their rules. The Ten Commandments fit. It was a bit harder to apply the fairly bizaare and strict Jewish laws when you're trying to spread your beliefs to a non-Jewish population, so those were dropped.
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There's really no reason to venerate the Ten Commandments over anything else, aside from the fact that it's ten fairly clear rules all in one place and easier reading than getting your lessons from psalms or the Gospels.


Heh. Yup. And that goes double for the various "letters" (which no one reads outside of church anyway). I'm serious folks. Read through the various books that follow the gospels and acts. They are pretty clearly the early attempts by church leaders to provide "rules" for Christianity. Um... They're contradictory and confusing. They're probably responsible for more problems then they ever solved. Heck. There are like 3 different versions of the "seven deadly sins" in there IIRC. Probably why they didn't catch on very well.

The Ten Commandments are nice and clear though...
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#21 Apr 14 2004 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
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The Last Supper is when Jesus essentially finalizes his "deal" with mankind.

The Last Supper doesn't happen on Good Friday. Naturally, it didn't happen at all and is a fabrication of events by imaginary beings, but anyway, in the fairy tale...

It would have happened the day before, Maunday Thursday, celebrated in the Catholic Holy Week by the washing of feet.

Nothing I like better than good grooming in a religion.
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#22 Apr 15 2004 at 1:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok so what is the single greatest event in the history of human life on this planet?

Certainly not something that is meaningful just to one religious group.

I was thinking, in terms of overall impact on the planet, maybe the harnessing of electricity, the wiping out of the dinosaurs, the invention of antibiotics, stuff like that.
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Ok so what is the single greatest event in the history of human life on this planet?


Learning to control Fire comes to mind. Or the invention of the Ipod. Its a toss up.

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There is no single most important event. The whole consept is silly.
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