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#1 Mar 22 2004 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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Well, is it? Are dense, giggly girls the ones who get all the guys? Why? Are intelligent women intimidating? Or are intelligent women really getting the quality guys? Do guys dumb it down too? I'm interested in how many people "play dumb" to score. I have a friend who is incredibly intelligent but acts like the dumbest sack o' hammers when a hot guy is around. Interesting, and perhaps slightly disappointing. I have dumbed it down for people before, sure. I was trying to date a gym teacher before I got together with my b/f now. Man oh man, that was work, but I did it so he wouldn't think I was on a completely different level than him. I wanted the "good stuff" and not talking religion, politics, literature etc was the trade off. What do you guys think?





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#2 Mar 22 2004 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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I think it's one of those things where it depends on the person. Sure, some guys can't stand the fact that a woman just might be more intelligent than he is. That would really deflate his already fragile ego, and we can't have that. Then again, other men want their intellectual equal, or even a woman beyond that. It all comes back to preference. And, how secure a man is with himself.

I used to think that women who played dumb were idiots. But some of them know exactly what they're doing, and by playing dumb, they're really "playing" the man and getting exactly what they want. Not too dumb when you think about it.
#3 Mar 22 2004 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Men like stupid women because they're easier to trick into sex. Rather than "dumbing it down" I'd recomend just saying "look, I'm smarter than you, but I love to ****."
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#4 Mar 22 2004 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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Rather than "dumbing it down" I'd recomend just saying "look, I'm smarter than you, but I love to ****."


Oh, Smash, you have no idea how much I wish I was single again now!! Lol.



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#5 Mar 22 2004 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Has anyone ever really been "tricked" into having sex?
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#6 Mar 22 2004 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe not tricked, but I have had the occasional "how did that happen" moment.


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#7 Mar 22 2004 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
I have never had a "relationship" with a ditz.

Beauty queens make a good booty call, but finding yourself having breakfast with a woman who needs the front page of a newspaper explained to her is not grounds for a lasting relationship. Intelligent women, especially women whose minds operate on the same level as mine (yes, that was a wide open door, feel free to jump through it), turn me on like you wouldn't believe. Knowing that I will be able to argue about politics, religion, literature, music, art, or anything for that matter, with a person who a)has an opinion and b)isn't afraid to let me know what it is and c)can back it up makes spending time with someone very satisfying. All I can suggest is that if you are with a man who can't meet your intellectual needs as well as your physical and emotional needs, keep an ear to the ground and an eye on the horizon. It won't last.
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Has anyone ever really been "tricked" into having sex?


I had a buddy who had an identical twin brother. If one of them picked up a girl and brought her home,once the first one was finished with her, he'd get up to get a drink or go to the bathroom, the other twin would return and take his turn with her.

Technically its probably rape, but the girls never knew.
So yeah, people have really been tricked into having sex.



#9 Mar 22 2004 at 11:00 AM Rating: Good
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Depends on what you mean by "get guys". I imagine most guys would be happy with a giggly bit of fluff for a roll in the hay, but would seek something more substantial for a relationship. Then again, I don't sit around with my male friends chatting about what we're looking for in a relationship so I have no idea what other guys think.
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#10 Mar 22 2004 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I had a buddy who had an identical twin brother. If one of them picked up a girl and brought her home,once the first one was finished with her, he'd get up to get a drink or go to the bathroom, the other twin would return and take his turn with her.


That is really REALLY disgraceful behaviour. I hope they die of cancer.
#11 Mar 22 2004 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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I agree with Moebius on this one. Dumbing it down for a **** is one thing, but I would never look for a lasting relationship with someone that couldn't hold some sort of intellectual conversation.

Edited, Mon Mar 22 12:04:16 2004 by Alienone
#12 Mar 22 2004 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
Depends on who you ask. Ask Mike Tyson, then yes, it's a turn off, but as for me, I like 'em smart.

I'll be the first to say that Flea is much more intelligent than me, and that is one of the many things that attracted me to her. Luckily I don't have to "dumb it down" to get a hot chick, I found a special two-in-one package.

I didn't date much in highschool for that reason, (some would argue that it was because I was a dork, but I assure you it's because all of the girls were ditzes, honest) Smiley: smile

Basically, if you want in a guys pants quick, be the dense giggly type, if you want him to call you afterwards, have some intelligence in there aswell.

Besides, most intelligent girls act pretty giggly if you give them enough liquor. Smiley: wink2
#13 Mar 22 2004 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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I'd also agree with Moe. I am one of those guys who has a lot of friends that are girls (no, not gay!). But the only girls who I show physical interest in are the ones that can turn me on physically and psychologically. C'mon, attraction is almost all mental, so if I think she's got air between her ears, I'm not usually* not going to pursue any kind of physical relationship.


*Alcohol does crazy things to ya

Edited, Mon Mar 22 12:12:48 2004 by TwiztidSamurai
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That is really REALLY disgraceful behaviour. I hope they die of cancer.

I hope it's prostate cancer.

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Besides, most intelligent girls act pretty giggly if you give them enough liquor.

Only if it's rum.
#15 Mar 22 2004 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
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i pretty much concur with everyone else here. a ditzy girl can be somewhat entertaining for a little but sooner of later you are going to be at the point that if you hear one more mindless giggle you are going to snap. i also agree that being with a woman smarter than you is rather intimidating. ideally they would be just as smart as you, or not quite as smart.
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C'mon, attraction is almost all mental
Well, some attraction is. I know I find myself plenty attracted to a great deal of comely lasses one finds on "not work safe" websites and it has little to nothing to do with their minds Smiley: sly
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#17 Mar 22 2004 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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Looking at hunks is really nice. Dating/speeping with, no thank you, unless they have a very high level of intelligence too (talk about a dream man). Anyway intelligence is a turn on for me (I am married to a very smart man), so not looking now (well ok, I still LOOK at those hunks, not being dead). Never dumbed down for any man, or lost a game on purpose, etc. If they can't "handle" a real woman, don't "handle" them.

One of the "sexiest" guys I ever knew had glasses, a nerdy heart, and a beer belly, had an abundance of bachelors, master and doctorate degrees.

As a good friend once stated about ditzy hot women, "Not bad to have sex with, but my god, if you have to have a conversation afterwards, it's just not worth it."
#18 Mar 22 2004 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
for me intelligence isnt a major turn off unless she makes me feel stupid. i get intimidated sometimes by smart girls but usually after i get to know them its easier to be around them. so usually i want a girl smarter then me to have a relationship with.
#19 Mar 22 2004 at 2:54 PM Rating: Good
No offense, trunks, but having lived through High School myself, I can say with a high degree of certainty that at that age, most girls are smarter anyway. Even if it's got nothing to do with books and learning. 16 year old girls may seem like idiots to me now, but they outshine 16 year old boys by a metric f'uck ton. The only solution is while a teenage boy, date girls at least 2 years younger. :)

They're not quite as smart as their older counterparts, hence easier to ply with liquor. Smiley: grin
#20 Mar 22 2004 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
If intelligence really is a turn off, and idiocy a turn on, that would ultimately lead to women pining over Empyre like Stok does to anything with two legs and breasts.



#21 Mar 22 2004 at 4:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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I dunno, after you see some of the intel reports we get out of Pakistan these days, I'd have to say that type of intelligence is a real turn off, I mean all those terrorists, and ... Oh, you meant people smarts. I get it! (hehe sorry, intel joke, couldn't resist)

I personally find intelligence a highly desireable trait in a women. That doesn't have to be tech smarts necissarily either. people smarts, etc, it's all good.
#22 Mar 22 2004 at 5:12 PM Rating: Good
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I know it three weeeks off is too long, im a gona

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#23 Mar 22 2004 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I have to admit that I like women with their hair pulled back into a bun that wear glasses.(/sigh Oh, Lilith) Makes them look smart. Yeah, I like intelligence in women.
#24 Mar 22 2004 at 5:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, this one's a bit tricky to answer. I don't think most guys are "turned off" by intelligence in a woman. I think what turns off most guys about intelligent women is the oddball idea that intelligence should be *all* the guy should care about (which if you've ever seen and laughed at a film like Porky's, you know is horribly false).

What I've seen is that many "intelligent" women come to the conclusion that it's somehow degrading for them to make any effort to appeal to the physical side of the attraction equation. They'll wear their lack of makeup, plain-jane clothes, and non-flirtatiousness like a badge of membership into the "intelligent women's club" and then wonder why they have no dates on a Friday night...


My roomate is a classic example of this. Very intelligent woman (not quite as smart as me, but then who is?... ;) ). She's getting her PhD in ancient history right now, and plans to work in academia (professor). I've known here for over ten years via a pretty tight circle of friends. I've seen her in a bathing suit. She's got a pretty decent body. I've seen here when she's actually dolled up in a formal or semi-formal (tons of events, wedding, and whatnot with the aforementioned circle of friends). She can look pretty darn good when she takes the time to. However, on the average day, she wears no makeup. She wears pretty conservative clothing. Her hair is just kinda there (not styled in any particular way).

This would be fine (I have no requirement for her to change her appearance). However, we've often had conversations (initiated by her), where she essentially ******* about why otherwise intelligent men always seem to go for the "bimbos". She's specifically talking about other PhD type folks, and who they choose as dates/partners/spouses. For all her "intelligence", she's honestly bewildered as to why a professor would choose to date a sexy hottie with all her assets out for everyone to see instead of someone his intellectual equal.


Um... It's not about being intimidated. Guys date hotties if and when they can. Let's face it. No one ever had an erotic fantasy about their frumpy highschool English teacher. They probably did have a few about the hot girls gym coach. You just can't ignore the physical side of the equation. If you are intelligent, that does not mean you have to play down your physical attributes, yet that's often exactly what many intelligent women do. I can't tell if you're intelligent by looking at you, but I can tell if you look hot. When a guy is scoping out a room for someone to hit on, he's looking for two things: Physical appearance, and apparent flirtatiousness. That's what's going to get him to walk over and start talking. Even in a more relaxed social setting, if I'm having a conversation with a group of people, and in that group, there's one woman who's made up and dressed seductively and is flirting with me, and the other one isn't, guess who I'm going to pay more attention to?

Sure. I'll want intelligent conversation from a woman eventually, but look at it this way. I'd ideally like a woman who is both sexy and smart. If I hit on women who are sexy, eventually one of them may be smart as well, and I'm in good shape. If I hit on a woman who's unwilling to be sexy in a social situation (where I'm presumably meeting her for the first time anyway), odds are, no matter how smart she is, she'll never be "sexy". It's just a matter of playing the odds...
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#25 Mar 22 2004 at 5:40 PM Rating: Good
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There are so many sharp divisions in American ways of thinking. Why is it always a question of "or"? Thank God I was born brown, and my ability to sashay around in tiny skirts and heels never collided with my ability to write one hell of a thesis and talk politics. Women and men need to quit limiting themselves so much.

I never understood women that swallow all that crap. It's like actually believing Totem when he intimates that apparent worth is displayed in shorthand by one's appearance (remember the tattoos?) Men get to look like slobs and get hot chicks, so maybe you feel you should be able to quit shaving and still score quality men, but why go for the lowest common denominator? Be hot and smart!
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gbaji, I love that voodoo that you do. Couldn't have said it better myself (could anyone have?).
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