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If you are talking about pictures which describe how pathetic you are, then you are quite right, I am running out of those, as for posting material, even your name recalls how stupid you are, Mr. "There's no I in team" Empyre.





Ok, I get ya.



I'm not reaching for scraps, you're throwing them my way with each post, chump.

I'd read the last sentence of my last post again, I don't think you got it the first time.

ok skibby...we'll try your approach. see if you can get how stupid you sound.



wtf are you trying to say? especially, with, all, those, commas? your not making many points...and your surely not proving ANY of them. pick on typing and grammar and then butcher a paragraph with sentence fragments and illegal use of the comma. you lose fool..give it up, your everything you are accusing.



no, i have a hard time believing you get much of anything.



well thanks for confirming what I was trying to say. now lets work on this ping-ponging you've got going between this and the opposing extreme. can we say bi-polar behavior?



fine. here you go (next time just scream out "I WANT ATTENTION! I LEARNED A NEW WORD!)...its easier than beating around the bush.



again..your an idiot. anyone with half a brain cell reading can see this. now go away. shoo skeeter shoo.

Edited, Mon Mar 15 17:55:18 2004 by Empyre

you two should get together and chase each others tails...thats all your doing here.

its quite funny actually, this is. i almost can't stop laughing sometimes. in fact, this one had me laughing so hard I sneezed at the same time..hurt my shoulder. dont ask me how..but yeah, thanks for the amusement.

can you and twizted do that little dance you two do? not the one you guys do in private...thats just gross. the other one.

I think Kaolian has been watching too many movies. Who do you think you are? Arnold Schwarzenegger?

Here is my movie idea, it is called "Vendetta".

<cue trailer music>

"There was a man. Usually he played by the rules. But this time they went to far. This time its personal. And rules are made to be broken."

Kaolian, in all my time posting on this board, only two regulars have been officially warned by Allakhazam himself, IIRC. You being one of them. For this very same behaviour. If you really want to have this argument. I am here buddy.

In future, keep your pathetic babyish threats to yourself big boy.

Is your self-esteem and self-confidence really so low that you get irate when an anonymous nobody calls you a nasty name? Had he done the same to me, I would have been amsued and penning my retort. No more, no less. But then I aint pathetic like you.

... and the standards of what actions are considered that of a "tool" are of course determined by Patrician here. How convenient.

No you miss the point. I have a problem with you throwing around threats, regardless of the antagonist. In my opinion there are no shades of grey when it comes to threatening people with real life consequences on a message board. It is wrong. Full stop.

And yeah when I decide to flame you, it is on my own criteria of tooliness. DUH!

I have a problem with your insistence that someone is not responsible for their actions just because it is a message board. That is crap. Sure, lets try the Patrician approach and spread the luv to the spammers. Consequences for your actions? Nooooo. What are those? Sure, lets let them keep on spamming. Drive off more newcomers. Invite their spammer friends in here. Hey, maybe they will start spamming ads for cheap insurance! I don’t get enough of those in my junk mail... Your way lies along the path to ruin. My way works.

Let me ask you this. How do you think Pum was getting around the spam filter? That's not something your average user is going to be able to do. This is someone with some hacking experience. He knew the risks of the game going in. By continuing to defend him over the interests of the board, you are coming off as a naive idealist. You cannot break everything down into two easily digestible moral shades at all times. I'm sorry if that shatters your worldview, but it is something you are going to ahve to coem to terms with.



Alright, let me know when you start would you? I’ll try to pay attention. And try something besides the "U R teh patheticz" line eh?

It was a sockpuppet, making a personal attack, designed to hurt, directed at me. That was enough. The fact that it is Pum makes it all the better.



I was actually going to steal his avatar picture and hold it for a $3.00 ransom if you really must know. Of course it was ambiguous. It was meant to be.

Starting with the ***** jokes again? Really. How dull.



Ok, explain this one to me. Is my record poor in the amount I have been issuing? If you like, I can do more. No, really, it’s no trouble at all. Or are you referring to my keeping my threats idle? Hmmm. Yes, I can see your point with that. They usually do turn active. I’ll work on my idleness factor some more ok?

So how is your threat to flame me any different here? Oh, because Patrician is doing it, it's ok. That must be it.

What is your goal here? To get me to leave poor little pum alone? It's not going to happen. To show the rest of the forum posters here what you perceive as the error of my ways? Most of them would probably happily join me in lynching the guy. Please. this is a lost cause and you know it.

Awww you don’t trust me? I’m hurt. Really…


You post that as if you have a clue how it even works. Oddly enough, even after Illia fixed that particular loophole, the guy still spams on a regular basis. Funny that, no? I suggest you do some more research before you attempt to call me on my technical knowledge.



Gee, seems to me that they did deal with him when they published his IP. Perhaps you should let them speak for themselves rather than putting words into their mouths. I am pretty sure they are perfectly aware of how to use the post reply button. If they wish to say something about the issue, they will.



Yes, you have questioned my integrity and morality. I submit to you that were I lacking morality and integrity here, would I not have done something regrettable with your personal information by now? Please understand that I say that not as a threat of any sort, but just to illustrate the point, especially since you brought the issue up yourself earlier. As a matter of fact, who was it that pointed out where you had posted it so you could remove it before anyone less principled got ahold of it? That alone should prove the point. Of course, since you don’t trust my integrity you won’t believe me, but nothing I say is going to change that. You have built your conceptions of me around that false premise, and you are the one that will have to resolve that.



Just because I choose not to post such information on the board does not mean it does not get passed along to the appropriate people. You do not know of what you speak in this instance. Also, the ambiguity serves as a deterrent factor. There are ways to counter things once they have been identified. It’s a simple equation Do clearly identified bad things = Unknown bad things occuring. Do not do clearly identified bad things = no unknown bad things occuring. It works. Why mess with it?

You would have to try particularly hard to get things to that point, well over the line of decency. The Thundra situation was a long time building, and way over the top. 1 post sockpuppets who are foolish to make directed attacks against me do not get as much leeway. And to be entirely honest that information would not have been that hard to come by anyways.


That’s right. Your opinion. Which happens to be different than my own. We have all no heard it several times from you, and I am certain that even the slowest amongst us fully understand, if not appreciate your stance on the issue


Exactly, I’m glad we agree.


I dunno, I think it’s pretty damn publicly humiliating to take away the sense of security and smugness at not being caught that Mr. Pum is going to have to deal with.



I have volunteered to be a moderator in the past. Heck, I’ll offer to be one again right now. I don’t see it happening any time soon here in oot though. Maybe someday in the tech support forum on a limited basis or something, but I think I’m regarded as somewhat of a loose cannon. That is the consequence of some of the paths I have chosen. I like to think I have done more good than harm though.


So is making sockpuppets. Would you prefer that I just hijack their accounts and give them no notification whatsoever? At least that way it informs them that they have a security breach. Sure, I could just tell them, but where’s the fun in that?