I submit to you that any Stevie King made-for-TV movie sucks. I also submit to you that any actor participating in said movie is in the terminal phase of their career. These are movies are an elephant's graveyard, so to speak, where all B grade (or worse) actors go to collect one final paycheck and die.
While King has made some brilliant movies like Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile, on the whole he is a mediocre story teller with occasional flashes of genius. But there is one area in which he is pure crap: TV movies. Kingdom Hospital is a prime example of his stock in trade.
So which one of you shmoes are going to fill your empty lives with some this Stephen pablum tonight? I know there are at least a few of you here who have not even a drop of good taste or sense to read a book instead, but will likely record this steaming pile of **** so you can watch over and over and over.
C'mon. 'Fess up.
Totem
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Totem wrote:
While King has made some brilliant movies like Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile
How the hell can you list these two, and not ******* mention The Shining?
Darling! Light of my life! I'm not gonna hurt you. You didn't let me finish my sentence. I said, I'm not gonna hurt ya. I'm just gonna bash your brains in. I'm gonna bash 'em right the **** in!
But yeah, made for TV crap is the bottom of the barrel for King. Why the hell is he doing crap like this anyway, when he still has to finish the damn Dark Tower series? Quit slacking Steve old boy, and make with the books!
The Shining was ok, I guess, but it was Nicholson who made it, not necessarily the plotline. Indeed, it's amazing it is as good as it is considering that Sissy Spacek is in this movie. She sucks a great big giant baboon a$$.
Put Andrew McCarthy in it like he is in tonight's fare and The Shining woulda sucked a$$ too.
Totem
Put Andrew McCarthy in it like he is in tonight's fare and The Shining woulda sucked a$$ too.
Totem
I'm a huge King fan, have read everything at least 2 times (except Cujo, poor dog) and I'll probably watch this tonight. I agree with you Totem, that most King movies are crap, especially the made for TV ones. But morbid curiosity will make me watch this.
Oh, and in the list of good King movies, Dolores Claiborne was a decent one. I hated The Shining, because it was nothing like the book.
Oh, and in the list of good King movies, Dolores Claiborne was a decent one. I hated The Shining, because it was nothing like the book.
Actually, Stephen King did not write "Kingdom Hospital"...it's a remake, or a King re-take, of Lars Von Trier's 1994 film, "The Kingdom". This is a great Danish film. It's really spooky and fairly gross. I'm sure our friend Stephen will do a great job of f*cking it up.
I suggest you see the original, if you want to see something unique and freaky.
I suggest you see the original, if you want to see something unique and freaky.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
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but it was Nicholson who made it
Jack has never been in a bad movie. Unless you count Wolf, not going to say any more about that **** fest.
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Put Andrew McCarthy in it like he is in tonight's fare and The Shining woulda sucked a$$ too.
You ever see the remake with the guy from Wings? I felt like hunting these people down and ending thier misery with a sharp twist of the neck.
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Sissy Spacek sucks a great big giant baboon a$$.
What more can be said?
How about The Stand? While I don't really like it, alot of people would probably consider it to be the best TV one.
A while ago I watched a bit of one with a giant killer rat, needless to say it made me want to gouge my eyes out repeatedly it was so bad.
So I'll agree, most of his movies are pure garbage, with Shawshank and Green Mile excepted. Of course the credit to those movies can go to the directors, no thanks to Steven King's usual garbage.
A while ago I watched a bit of one with a giant killer rat, needless to say it made me want to gouge my eyes out repeatedly it was so bad.
So I'll agree, most of his movies are pure garbage, with Shawshank and Green Mile excepted. Of course the credit to those movies can go to the directors, no thanks to Steven King's usual garbage.
sstaurus wrote:
How about The Stand?
I read the book. I enjoyed the book. I wanted to find each and every actor who helped put that ungodly edited and crap filled piece of ***** together and kill them.
Ya, but you know Nicholson did the Witches of Eastwick too, Selfishman. While he has a certain magic about him, not everything he does turns to gold.
Tare, I'll have to check Kingdom out on your recommendation. Duly noted.
Totem
Tare, I'll have to check Kingdom out on your recommendation. Duly noted.
Totem
AHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
What are you trying to do to me, Tare?!? That stupid song is gonna be in my head for the rest of this week!
Bad Tare! Bad!
Totem
What are you trying to do to me, Tare?!? That stupid song is gonna be in my head for the rest of this week!
Bad Tare! Bad!
Totem
Did you watch until the end?? Did you?? I know...it's stuck in my head too.
IIIIIIII....I'm hooked on feeeeeelin'!!!
IIIIIIII....I'm hooked on feeeeeelin'!!!
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
No, I didn't. I also tried to innoculate myself by immediately humming the tune of "It's a Small World After All," but I fear I was too late.
The
madness
is
taking
over...
/his hands fly up to his face and his mouth opens in a silent scream of horror
Totem
The
madness
is
taking
over...
/his hands fly up to his face and his mouth opens in a silent scream of horror
Totem
Not understanding how you are blaming Stephen King for the TV movies based on his books when it actually is the fault of the writers, directors and producers of the aforementioned crap.
The only way Stephen's name is tied to these (usually) is "Based on a story by Stephen King", and as an Executive Producer. The Exec Producer title is given because he perhaps gave them some moer input or background info on the story that was not readily available.
I blame the other people who adapt his stuff for screen. Not Stephen himself.
On a side note, I do believe that Jack Nicholson was a big reason why The Shining is one of the better adaptations of Stephen King's books, but let's not dimiss director Stanley Kubrick's vision either.
-Snarl
The only way Stephen's name is tied to these (usually) is "Based on a story by Stephen King", and as an Executive Producer. The Exec Producer title is given because he perhaps gave them some moer input or background info on the story that was not readily available.
I blame the other people who adapt his stuff for screen. Not Stephen himself.
On a side note, I do believe that Jack Nicholson was a big reason why The Shining is one of the better adaptations of Stephen King's books, but let's not dimiss director Stanley Kubrick's vision either.
-Snarl
Executive Producer:
Executive in Charge of Production; A producer who is not involved in any technical aspects of the filmmaking process, but who is still responsible for the overall production.
It would seem that Stephen is more responsible than we'd like to admit.
Executive in Charge of Production; A producer who is not involved in any technical aspects of the filmmaking process, but who is still responsible for the overall production.
It would seem that Stephen is more responsible than we'd like to admit.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
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Indeed, it's amazing it is as good as it is considering that Sissy Spacek is in this movie
Are you talking about The Shining?
Sissy Spacek isn't in that movie. She plays Carrie (another King gem). The actress who portrays the wife in the Shining is Shelley Duvall.
I do like Dolores Claiborne, mostly because of the performances by the 3 female leads.
My guilty pleasure Stephen King made for TV movie is The stand. I know it's bad, but I still enjoy it.
Perhaps, Snarly, but King still had to place his blessing on the project. And after the first, second, third, fourth, sixty-eighth, and one hundred twenty-nineth bad TV movie, you'd think he'd request, no, demand better treatment of his work.
That is, unless he writes lousy books/scripts in the first place. Which is precisely what I think he does. After all, considering what tremendous work he has churned out, you'd think he'd care a bit more about being mocked as a hack.
Totem
That is, unless he writes lousy books/scripts in the first place. Which is precisely what I think he does. After all, considering what tremendous work he has churned out, you'd think he'd care a bit more about being mocked as a hack.
Totem
Sissy Spacek, Shelly Duval, Shelly Long, all "S" names, all bad actresses-- and if in any way connected to Stephen King movies, all suck. Great big giant baboon a$$.
Totem
Edited, Wed Mar 3 15:05:10 2004 by Totem
Totem
Edited, Wed Mar 3 15:05:10 2004 by Totem
I'll have to agree that King is reduced to methodically churning out pulp horror, originally in book form but now shifted to the small screen. It's probably some sort of personality dysfunction; the necessity to keep spewing out more. But hey, at least they stopped filming Dean Koontz's shlock. Haven't they?
I would like to think that 'The Stand' helped bring Gary Sinise to the public's recognition, but that was more likely brought about by the other movie he made that year.
I would like to think that 'The Stand' helped bring Gary Sinise to the public's recognition, but that was more likely brought about by the other movie he made that year.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Dunno, I liked IT, I was young when I first saw it on TV and what can I say Clowns still scare. Curse you mother for making that my childhood room motif.
I don't think you can hold that definition of executive producer to exactly that definition. I have two "acquaintences" in the business who were given executive producer credits on an Academy Award winning movie. From what I understand all they did was get the script to the people that it needed to get to in order for it to be produced. They visited the set ONCE during the entire filming.
I did an internship with 2(Michael Uslan & Benjamin Melniker ) well known producers who have executive producer credits on just about every Batman movie there is (including the animated ones (these 2 are seperate from the two I mentioned in the above paragraph. I did some film work for a few years). As executive producers they picked the director, the writers, actors, and went through script revisions. They rarely make it to the set where the thing is being shot. I have to venture a guess that it all looks great in script form... once you get the actors in there under whoever's direction, THAT is where it goes all wrong.
I also have to admit... I'd rather watch a Stephen King adaptation than a Dean R. Koontz one. Christ... his books are good.. but the movies they make, are, dare I say, WORSE than the Stephen King ones?
-Snarl
Edited, Wed Mar 3 18:38:31 2004 by Snarlfang
I did an internship with 2(Michael Uslan & Benjamin Melniker ) well known producers who have executive producer credits on just about every Batman movie there is (including the animated ones (these 2 are seperate from the two I mentioned in the above paragraph. I did some film work for a few years). As executive producers they picked the director, the writers, actors, and went through script revisions. They rarely make it to the set where the thing is being shot. I have to venture a guess that it all looks great in script form... once you get the actors in there under whoever's direction, THAT is where it goes all wrong.
I also have to admit... I'd rather watch a Stephen King adaptation than a Dean R. Koontz one. Christ... his books are good.. but the movies they make, are, dare I say, WORSE than the Stephen King ones?
-Snarl
Edited, Wed Mar 3 18:38:31 2004 by Snarlfang
uhhh you can all die and go to hell stephen king is the master storyteller of horror. his prose is so good that it does not translate well into film and his only good movie to date was shawshank redemption everything else was still a good movie just not a movie worthy of his works.
jack made about schmidt. that movie was a huge dissapointment. i sat through an hour and a half wondering when the hell anything would happen! i kept watching, hoping something notable would happen, but nothing ever did.
King did a "tour" of sorts to promote his book Insomnia. I went to see him when he came to Nashville (he's a pretty interesting speaker). Of course, someone asked him about all the crappy movies... his answer was along the lines of "Nothing has happened to my books... they're all still here." (Ok, bad paraphrase, but this was quite a few years ago, what he actually said is escaping me ATM)
I got the idea though that he's well aware of how bad the movies based on his books are. My opinion is that stuff like that just doesn't translate well to the screen, with a few notable exceptions.
I got the idea though that he's well aware of how bad the movies based on his books are. My opinion is that stuff like that just doesn't translate well to the screen, with a few notable exceptions.
Tare wrote:
Speaking of washed up actors, David is doing great these days. (I defy you to watch until the end!!)
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Not a problem - I watched it through ... but had to mute it 20 seconds in! (Now I gotta go scrub my brain....)
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agree that movie sucked, reminded me of Lost in Translation another **** bomb that I picked up cause I thought the lead couldnt make a bad movie
Edited, Thu Mar 4 17:16:24 2004 by flishtaco
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jack made about schmidt. that movie was a huge dissapointment. i sat through an hour and a half wondering when the hell anything would happen! i kept watching, hoping something notable would happen, but nothing ever did.
agree that movie sucked, reminded me of Lost in Translation another **** bomb that I picked up cause I thought the lead couldnt make a bad movie
Edited, Thu Mar 4 17:16:24 2004 by flishtaco
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