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#1 Feb 17 2004 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
Knowing that I may in fact be a)flamed, b)have this thread hijacked, c)all of the above; I still will post this.

Anyone here know how to configure a Gateway so one can use a conversion cable to connect two computers? My friend has a Gateway, I have a Systemax. I take my computer to another friend's house and connect to his network no problem. I went and bought a conversion cable to link my friend's and my computers together. (I had also previously tried a hub connection, which also failed.)

We are trying to play C&C Generals. When connected, we can see each other's computer names in the lobby, but it always times out when we try to connect. Any thoughts?

I logged onto Gateway's website for support, to which after waiting 30 minutes, was told to call some stupid support line ($1.95/minute) becuase it was configured wrong. Isn't tech support for configure problems?

Anyway....anyone here have any ideas how to configure the damn thing so it can work right? I appreciate any help.

Meistern

PS. Feel free to flame and hijack, provided I can at least get some sort of answer somewhere along the lines. Thanks.
#2 Feb 17 2004 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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#3 Feb 17 2004 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
It's easy, get a Dell!

Duh.

#4 Feb 17 2004 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
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Kao will probably answer this, as it is a "Help Me" type question, and strangely enough those don't get flamed, only game questions. Now if you had said "I need to configure Gateway ASAP to do such-and-such with my character," we would have told you to suck it.
#5 Feb 17 2004 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
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We are trying to play C&C Generals. When connected, we can see each other's computer names in the lobby, but it always times out when we try to connect. Any thoughts?


Wouldn't this make it game related?

Don't mind me. I am just stirring the pot.Smiley: grin
#6 Feb 17 2004 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
Couple things I forgot. He is running XP, I'm on 98 SE. Shouldn't make much of a difference since my other friend has XP and 98 running on various computers on his network.

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Wouldn't this make it game related?


Might be. Which in hindsight brings up the question...can C&C Generals be run across a network using only one cd key? I know Renegade can be. I guess I'm assuming that it's only the internet servers that check cd keys.
#7 Feb 17 2004 at 2:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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See, now that crossed the line.

Kindly take your lazy right-click finger into cut-and-paste mode, and walk that question over to a forum that gives a damn. Unless you're willing to discuss politics, your amorous failings, your excellent cookie recipe or your belief in a higher power, consider this your engraved invitation to get your reading-challenged **** movin' on up outta here. Sheesh.
#8 Feb 17 2004 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
No, I think I'll stay, thanks.

Exactly when did "might be" become "Eureka! That's the problem!!"? I was merely acknowledging that it were a possibility that it was a game problem. I don't think it is, as if it times out, there is a lack of connection, which leads to the origininal post question.

And allow me to hijack my own thread, to a degree.

Politics-Hate every aspect of it. No one candidate is any better than the last. All he (I use 'he' until said time a 'she' makes it to office) will do is complain about the last administration and point the finger to them. They all do and say what they have to do to get into office, then all they listen to is whomever has the largest funds to line thier pockets. Throw a war in there to divert attention, and viola, they are the same as the last administration, except that they are labeled an opposite party affiliation.

Amorous feelings-Hit on this topic slightly on one of Moebius' previous posts about the perverbial "one that got away". Beyond that, I'm just slightly on the caring side of the line between love and not giving a ****.

Excellent cookie recipe-Sorry, don't have one. Don't really have much of a sweet tooth, so I don't often experiment with desserts.

Belief in a higher power-Sure, I believe there is more to life than the 70-90 (give or take) years on this mortal coil. Whether or not its God that is that power is beyond me. I was raised in a Christian church and the beliefs therein, but now that I'm older I question most everything about it. I enjoy a good discussion regarding religion and why people believe what they do.

Now, if you don't mind, take your engraved invitation and shove it. I'm looking for an answer to the network question.

Thank you. Have a good day.

My skin must have hardened some since I've been roaming in the OOT....
#9 Feb 17 2004 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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You sound overall miserable. Might just belong here.



Notice no one is answering your question, though.
#10 Feb 17 2004 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
Hoping Kao drops in the forum and peeks in here for some insight. =/
#11 Feb 17 2004 at 5:01 PM Rating: Good
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The problem is that XP tries really really really hard to distance the user from the network configuration "behind the curtain". As a result, it took me like 3 hours to figure out how to get mine working on my home network.

However, if you can ever figure out how to actually set IP addresses and such (don't ask me to tell you how I did it, I pretty much randomly tried stuff till it worked!), here's what you need to do:

It sounds like you have a cross-connect cable, so you should be able to just hook one ethernet card directly to another without needing a hub.

Both machines need to be configured on the same network though. This means that three things need to be set up:

Host IP address.
Gateway (router) address.
Netmask.


Technically, you don't need the gateway if you're only going to talk to eachother. If you want to route out to other networks (like the internet), you'll need that one configured as well. Um... technically you don't really need the netmasks, but it'll usually be set somewhere by default, and you'll want to verify it.


Simply pick a private net address range. Common ones are either 192.168.x.x, or anything from 1.x.x.x to 10.10.255.255. Since you're just connecting two machines, you can really use anything. What I usually use for a non-routed private net is 10.10.10.x.


What this means is that you should configure his machine like so:

IP: 10.10.10.1
router: none
Netmask: 255.255.255.0


Your machine gets configured like so:

IP: 10.10.10.2
router: none
Netmask: 255.255.255.0


Once both hosts have their network interfaces configured like that, they should be able to talk directly to eachother with no problems.


Again. XP makes it *really* hard to just configure those addresses. It keeps wanting to "setup" a "network", that's not really a network at all (I have no idea what MS thinks a network is, but that's not it). Just keep playing with the XP machine until you can get to an interface configuration area. On 98, it's easy. You right click the network icon, click on the tcp-ip thingie, and wham! You're at a window that lets you just put in all those values (and more, but you don't need to worry about DNS and WINS services).


Um... Good luck.

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#12 Feb 17 2004 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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Or you could just quit being such a stubborn bunny and post it here.


See, it's easy? I helped! Check back for an answer soon.
#13 Feb 17 2004 at 5:10 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks, gbaji. I'll give it a shot this Sunday.

Thanks to you also, Atomicflea.

Even though you spelled Meistern wrong.


EDIT note: Need to pay attention to which button I hit. Doh.

Edited, Tue Feb 17 17:15:34 2004 by Meistern
#14 Feb 17 2004 at 5:25 PM Rating: Good
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Oh. One more thing. An easy way to test your network is to use ping:

start->run->

Enter this in the text field:

ping 10.10.10.x

Where "x" is the number for the other computer. So if you're on the one you configured to be 10.10.10.1, you'd ping 10.10.10.2 (and vice versa). If you get a response back, then your network is working.

I know nothing of the network interface for C&C, so you'll have to figure that out. Most games today have a lan game option, which should have the server machines (whichever one you started the scenario on) broadcast that it's got a game running, and the clients automatically go looking on their local network for the game.

And just to add some random information: that's what the netmasks thing does btw. It tells your computer how large your local network (lan) is, by "masking" the bits that aren't local. Thus, if the entire range of the internet is from 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255, then a netmask of 255.255.255.0 will mask all the bits except the last set (the 0). So a machine with an IP of 10.10.10.1 will only broadcast to a range of IPs between 10.10.10.0 and 10.10.10.255. Any address outside that range will need to be routed (which we're not going to worry about here). The game will use that netmask setting to determine what to do when you choose between "internet game" and "lan game", so it does need to be set correctly.
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