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#52 May 17 2004 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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Oh noooo! I wish I'd seen this thread before! :(

I have Eragon. I picked it up last year in Barnes because I was interested in the author being so young. I was extremely dissatisfied with it because of the obvious rip-offs from Dune and Tolkien names and especially with the use of the name Arya.

You can really tell it was written by a teen and it's just collecting dust on my shelf now because I don't want to read any of the sequels.
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#53 May 17 2004 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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Hrm, didn't realize this was a old thread. Thought it was posted April 2, not February 4! ;)

I've been meaning to read the second book of Lynn Flewelling's Tamir Trilogy, The Hidden Warrior (the sequel to The Bone Doll's Twin). I picked it up at the suggestion of George R.R. Martin on his website and thought it was a pretty good book. I still have to go back and re-read the first though because that was well over a year ago.

Recently finished re-reading Game of Thrones and will probably take Clash of Kings with me to the hospital to keep me occupied. If no ones heard of it or read it, it's the Song of Ice and Fire series by George R.R. Martin. Excellent political fantasy books with the 4th book due out this August. (hopefully)
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#54 May 17 2004 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
I have been wanting to read Eragorn for a bit myself might have to check that out.
#55 May 17 2004 at 9:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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If no ones heard of it or read it, it's the Song of Ice and Fire series by George R.R. Martin. Excellent political fantasy books with the 4th book due out this August.


Oh, that's good news.
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#56 May 18 2004 at 4:21 AM Rating: Good
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I just read "Get in the Van:On the Road with Black Flag" by Rollins

Before that it was The Rum Diary-Hunter S. Thompson
Life of Pi- Yann Martel
and a Chomsky book
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#57 May 18 2004 at 6:19 AM Rating: Good
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Just started "Balzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress" after a long bout of romance-novel therapy. Sometimes it's good to keep the voices in your head quiet.
#58 May 18 2004 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyone read anything by Morgan Llewellyn?

she's one of my favorites... she takes all the choppy Celtic myths and legends, and adds such flavor and reality to them you feel like you'd recognize her characters if you saw then on the street.
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#59 May 18 2004 at 8:00 AM Rating: Good
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I picked up Eragon last night, and I've already noticed a few things that made me quirk my brows.

However, one must always take into consideration that any book written today will be influenced, by use of names and character stereotypes, by the great novels that the author themselves have read in the past.

So the fact that the names sound similar - is it a deliberate attempt to make it sound that way, or an unconscious similarity because the concept/city/whatever they were trying to get across resounded with the memory of a similar thing in a more established book?

What does everyone else think?

Not just the names sounding similar, but the beginning of the story reminds me rather much of the beginning of the Wheel of Time books. Has anyone else noticed the same thing?
#60 May 18 2004 at 8:06 AM Rating: Decent
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I havn't read the same books, but I too have noticed that trend.
Not just in books, but music and movies too.. and jsut life in general... nothing's original anymore.. everything is recycled... when I was little everything seemed so new and unique... after a while I realized everyone is copying off of somthing or somone. Life's nothing but a big recycle fest.. It's just a matter of how much you're willing to tolerate before you say enough is enough and come up with your own stuff, which will prolly in turn be sub-consciously be copied off of somthing else... Smiley: banghead
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#61 May 18 2004 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
Try these sometime:

Elric Of Melnibone by Michael Moorcock
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0441203981/qid=1084894029/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-9815006-4019136?v=glance&s=books

The Great Shark Hunt by Hunter S. Thompson
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671400460/qid=1084894163/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-9815006-4019136?v=glance&s=books

Einstein's Bridge by John Cramer
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0380788314/qid=1084894383/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-9815006-4019136?v=glance&s=books

The Stainless Steel Rat by Harry Harrison
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1857984986/qid=1084894444/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-9815006-4019136?v=glance&s=books
#62 May 18 2004 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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Kiatrix, the familiarity of the names is what made me not like the books. I felt so many things on the map were "stolen" from Dune and LOTR that the author wasn't worth any more attention.

**Warning, some spoilers**

As I've already mentioned, I was pretty upset with the use of the name Arya (from Game of Thrones) because I felt it didn't fit the character AT ALL. Eragon already sounds like Aragorn. There's the Hadarac Desert, some lake named Ardwen and another called Isenstar. And I can't remember the names, but I found it really annoying that he had fancy fantasy names for some people but really plain names for others like Ken or Eric or something. Too lazy to go flipping through for it.
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#63 May 18 2004 at 3:14 PM Rating: Good
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If you wanna see a book rip off Pikko read Dune series then read Wheel of Time lol.

Bene Gesserit=Aes Sedai
Muad'dib=Rand-messiah figures
Prophecy=Prophecy
Fremen=Aiel
Stilgar=Lan

To many similarities to count, both feature young man with special powers, mysterious family past, both are messiah figures, prophecy huge part for each, both find desert warrior culture that they use for military purposes, both have mysterious women only groups trying to control them.

If Rand al'Thor loses his eyes as some have predicted i will walk away in disgust.
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#64 May 18 2004 at 6:49 PM Rating: Decent
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First, an inexpensive but funny nonfiction British book that I recommended to Skeeter for his sh*tty grammar: Eats, Shoots and Leaves. Truss fills this short book with both grammar puns and quirky, witty lessons. You'll never make most of these mistakes again (my favorite is "Prudential -- were[sic] here to help you."

My Sister's Keeper is a decent fiction read -- perhaps a bit cliched, but nonetheless a good read. Besides, it's 400+ pages, so it'll take most of you at least a weekend. I read this book again because I got so caught up in the last hundred pages (honestly, I think it's because the plot got a little too personal...but that's OT) and actually found a few proofreading errors that the editors and Jodi Picoult didn't pick up at the last minute (yes, I'm a grammar ****! I admit it!).

To see what's sitting on my bookshelf, including reviews, visit my blog, "by Robert J. Funches." There's a link to My Bookshelf on the left, and you can search for book reviews I've written (which aren't many as of right now).
#65 May 18 2004 at 8:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just finished reading The War of the Flowers by Tad Williams. I definitely recommend it (and most of his other stuff for that matter). It's kind of marxist political commentary wrapped into a fantasy world. Starts out slow, but was very entertaining by the end. It certainly kept me entertained on the plane to and from L.A. Any story where Tinker Bell curses like a sailor is my kind of read.
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#66 May 18 2004 at 8:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Did you read his otherland series? If so, what did you think? I've got that one sitting in the pile of "books to read eventually" but I haven't started it yet. I liked his dragenbone chair series.
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#67 May 18 2004 at 10:10 PM Rating: Default
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I read Otherland, good stuff. Parts of the last book are sort of a drag though. Had some interesting twists, really worth the read.

Just finished up all of Clancy's books yesterday.

I'm starting on Angels and Demons tonight, then after I finish it going on to The De Vinci Code.


After that? Donno, going to have to browse some. Maybe catch up on Dragonlance or something, haven't read anything in there in a long time.
#68 May 19 2004 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
i know this goes against your "things you haven't read but think you'd like to" cause iv'e read this, but its the bes thing ever, to kill a mocking bird by harper lee, its a classic and i love it
#69 May 19 2004 at 8:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah Otherland is worth getting. It is slow at times, but it's a pretty interesting concept.
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#70 May 19 2004 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
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Anything by Gene Wolfe is good in my opinion. He makes you pay attention and think. His Book of the New Sun series and Book of the Long Sun series are his best but his collections are pretty good as well.
#71 May 19 2004 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
You guys want a REALLY great book to read, try The Reality Dysfunction by Peter F Hamilton. Its a Science Fiction Space Opera that makes all other sci fi books Ive read seem childish and boring.

I aint gonna tell you what its about coz its difficult to explain and if I did you'd prolly think I was crazy, but.. hey trust someone u've never met or spoke to before and take a chance. I promise you wont be dissapointed.

The 2 sequels to this book are The Neutronium Alchemist and The Naked God.

Dunno wether you guys in the states will be able to easily get these as its a British Author, but I suggest you try.

Comparable to the LOTR in size, Dune in Depth and a comic for action.

If just one person reads this book, Im sure they will agree with what I say here too.

P.S. If someones already posted bout this book..... sorry!
#72 May 19 2004 at 3:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Peter hamilton's stuff is decent, but i tend to like Barbra Hamilton's stuff a bit better personally.. but not that god awful star wars book she did.
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#73 May 19 2004 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
Eragon sounds like a good book. Count me in.
#74 May 19 2004 at 6:28 PM Rating: Default
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Just finished Angels and Demons, really good read. 600 page books usually take me a few days to leaf through, but I read this in almost two sittings.
#75 Jul 12 2004 at 12:11 AM Rating: Default
highly reccomend the da vinci code
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