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#1 Jan 28 2004 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good
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So my 30th birthday is upon me, and I've been thinking. Deliberately. I find I want to do something I've never done before.

I've never had a tattoo.

The which design/where will I put it questions haven't been determined, nor will they for a while. I want something small, cute yet meaningful, and easily coverable.

Anyway, there's a convention in Tampa towards the end of March, and I'm tempted to go. The last such "convention" I went to was when I was 19, it was a Sci-Fi/Fantasy fair, and the basic who's-who's list of Freaks R Us for the Gulf Coast.

Anyone know anything about these ? Are these things even worth it ?

I figured I'd go, see if I can find "my" design, and have it done if I can summon the courage.

Thoughts ?

Oh, and the link for those who might be interested :

www.tattoofest.com


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Edited, Wed Jan 28 14:05:52 2004 by Dalliance
#2 Jan 28 2004 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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Dalliance, I have two tattoos and I love them. They're really for me, since I don't wear beaters and belly shirts very often and show them off. I like them because I love the artistry of them and they really help when welfare day comes. No one doubts I'm deadbeat then.

Just kiddin!...I say go for it. My mom was sooo mad when I got the second one. Her rational? "What will people say when you are 70?" I'll be too busy ******* my pants to worry about it then.

Psstt..I've also enjoyed a lot of "male" attention generated by them, and hey, that's never a bad thing. POW!
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#3 Jan 28 2004 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Draw or have some one draw a custom one.

Please don't become the 900000th 30 year old woman to have a 3 inch square flash book design done on her shoulder or lower back.

Please.
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#4 Jan 28 2004 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good
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Oh yeah, forgot to say that. Smash is right. Get one that is personal to you. Or you will end up hating it.

Thanks Flea, for sending Skeet's *** tattoo as an example to all of us. Work safe!
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#5 Jan 28 2004 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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I've narrowed it down to three designs :

Either a gryphon with a crook and flail,

A dragon (white and black) yin yang,

Or a phoenix, wings spread, with a Celtic ring around it.

The third one is the one I'm most leaning towards, but it's full of colors, and I'm not sure if I'm tough enough for the pain. (It is, after all, a fear) I figure, though, if I'm getting pricked, it's **** well going to be personal.

What's a flash book ?

Location's another issue. I don't want to wear it on my knees when I'm 80, so either breast is out. I don't care for arms since it's a little too manly for me. I want to see it, but cover it so it's not obvious to all.

But I'm really interested in the cons and the subculture involved. Would I be relatively safe going alone ? Crowds of people, no matter their intent, sort of scare me anyway. Are they worth going to ?

#6 Jan 28 2004 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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I have one tattoo that runs vertically up my spine from my *** crack. (What??) It's pretty big and I would suggest avoiding that area due to pain factors. That really hurt. The other is on my left arm, at the top. I can still be "teacherly" and no one is the wiser, which is good for me. Your choice of location depends a lot on whether you are OK with people seeing the tattoo. I would stay away from the boobs too, because cheese factor is high there.

As for where to go, I think you go for your gut feeling. Most places are reputable these days. Ask them for their standards...like any good business, they have to comply to certain rules and regulations and if they want your business, they will provide you with any details you want. You should be quite safe...usually fairly nice folks.

Don't do what Tare did - i.e. get drunk in Germany and get your belly button pierced in a shop that has dog **** on the floor. Wasn't pretty.

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#7 Jan 28 2004 at 3:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks Flea, for sending Skeet's *** tattoo as an example to all of us.

You should see his belly one. NOT work safe

Dalliance, just don't let this happen to you

Edited, Wed Jan 28 16:00:25 2004 by Atomicflea
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#8 Jan 28 2004 at 3:59 PM Rating: Good
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**** I'm ****.

No wonder Flea is so crazy about me.
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#9 Jan 28 2004 at 4:04 PM Rating: Good
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Wow..that Skeeter is hotter than I thought. Who knew?

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Don't worry so much about the pain. It's part of the process of getting a design that will last you forever. I have five tattoos and the only one that really bothered me was one that lasted 2 1/2 hours ... that was a little too long.

Make sure you check out the work done by the artist before you choose someone. They should have a book with pictures/drawings in it.

Makes sure it's a clean environment. I've never been to a con so I don't know how they set them up there.

The artist should redraw your picture first, then he/she will place it where you want it so you can see what it will look it. If you don't like it there, have them move it as many times as necessary. Then the work begins. =)
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A flash book is a book of designs that shops photocopy and then hang on the walls. Kanji, roses, dragon yin yangs :), Whatever. They seem cool when you're getting you first tatoo, safe, not too outrageuos.

Then you meet thirty five people with the same tatoo.

Not so cool anymore.
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So what kind of dragon would it be?
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Dammit that belly tatoo made my snort my soda.

Just goes to show, don't drink and drive the boards.

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#14 Jan 28 2004 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
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got two myself,the pain is part of the.....pleasure of a tat Smiley: sly
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I've got japanese "yakuza" style ink.
2 full sleeves into chest plates.
Mostly gray-wash traditional.
sakura's and windbar's galore.

Just remember you can remove any tattoo color except red ;)
#16 Jan 28 2004 at 7:58 PM Rating: Good
If you're leaning towards a phoenix check out the second picture down here. Although it could be nicer it's still pretty decent.
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TheSentientOne wrote:


Just remember you can remove any tattoo color except red ;)


I assume via laser? Why not red then? is it something to do with iron based pigments in the blood cells? Just curious...
#18 Jan 28 2004 at 8:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Me too! I wanted a tattoo once, but it was mostly red. This is making me think twice.
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Edited, Wed Jan 28 22:17:33 2004 by Atomicflea
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Correct, via laser treatment.

As for the exact reasoning, I'll have to ask my best friend / inker.

I know he always mentions it when someone goes for a tat in an obviously visible spot that has red in the design.

Like an 18 year kid that wants a big red heart that says "I like cheeze whiz" on thier forehead.

You could very well be dead on with the pigmentations. I'll let you know manana.


oh, not that there's anything wrong with a big red heart that says "I like cheeze whiz" on your forehead to those of you that have that. honest.
#21 Jan 28 2004 at 10:12 PM Rating: Good
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I loved the belly button tattoo. (That *was* a belly button, I hope ?)

Not my style, but extremely funny.

The "I like c*ck" one, I think, isn't necessarily my style either. Would be hard to explain, but a great conversation piece.

I'm thinking of taking the Phoenix from the Phoenix Cards (tarot-style deck) only giving him a wing span rather than a profile.

The coloration is there, and there is, indeed, quite a bit of red.

I need to find an artist, though. I'm looking for a one of a kind, not some dime a dozen picture.

I didn't realize the dragon yin yang was so popular. Something else I had thought of on the whole yin yang concept was a white lion and a black gryphon.

Sleeves are cool on other people. Not me, but I've seen some amazing art recently.

One of the best things I'd never do is :

[link][http://www.ringsofdesire.com/angel-bio.html ] [/link]

You have to scroll all the way to the bottom.

That's the woman that did most of my body piercings, and there was a black and white rear nude of her angel wings in the shop when I first went there. It was stunning.

Still trying to figure out a place to put it though.
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Red ink can be removed like any other ink. Your freind is buying an old wives tale.

Edit: Before someone posts "no it can't" or whatnot:

http://www.conbio.com/medical/medlite/app_tattoo_removal.asp

I love all you tattooed hippie bastards. I, personally, have "I'm smarter than you" on my ***.

Edited, Wed Jan 28 22:21:08 2004 by Smasharoo
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#23 Jan 28 2004 at 10:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Still trying to figure out a place to put it though.

Get wings on your feet. Tiny ones on your ankles.
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That looks like new technology to me Smash.
I'm no tree hugger, and it's sure not an old wives tale bud.

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The 532 nm wavelength is ideal for the removal of red colored ink, which is typically resistant to removal with 600 800 nm light.


I bet there's a red heart on your fuc'kin forehead too, isn't there.
#25 Jan 29 2004 at 1:20 AM Rating: Good
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Get wings on your feet. Tiny ones on your ankles.



Funny you should mention that. That song about "Little wings on my feet" has been going through my head for days.

I don't want a tattoo right next to a bone, so I'll pass although the concept is intriguing.

I'd do it just above my belly button, but I have a gall bladder scar that would kind of take away from it.

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Technically isn't everything next to a bone? asuming you have a skeleton. Which I'm pretty sure you do.
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May I perchance suggest a big 'G' on your right breast, and a big 'K' on your left?

Thanks.
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#28 Jan 29 2004 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've considered a tattoo several times, but I change my mind so often and proudly that I can't settle on anything. I used to draw them on myself just for kicks, with felt-tip markers and powder them in, fooled a couple of folks.
Ones I drew that I can remember:
-strawberry vine running up my foot to my calf
-koi fish jumping on my thigh, looked like he was coming out of my boot
-butterfly on my hip (back before Demon Mariah made them dumb)
-poppies on my belly
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If I could afford it (read: if Angua would allow me to spend the money), I'd be covered;. As it stands, I've got three or four. I really like the scene, the look, and the process of tattooing.

Seriously, Dalliance, if you are looking for a tattoo, I'll toss some wood on the fire at work today, and see if I can come up with a pheonix for you that's a bit more personalized.

I've designed several tattoos for myself, though I've never had the money to throw at them. One day, alas.
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When I went to Victoria BC my senior year in highschool, a couple of my friends snuck off and got tattoos there.

I was [] this close to getting one too.

Was a combination of not having that much money to spend on it/being chicken/knowing Mom, Music Teacher, and various other mother figures would kill me.

Did get a fake one though, and I wouldn't speak of it's validity until we were on the bus back home. I liked it and was scared that if they knew it was fake before we were on the bus, they'd convince me to get it.

It was a yin-yang, with a corona around it (not the beer, the flames from a sun that you can see pretty well during an eclipse)
It was on my back, between my shoulder blades, kind of.
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#31 Jan 29 2004 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
I have four ATM. Just one... lol. Once you get one you get hooked =). I have an armband with a feather on my left arm, phantom mask and rose on my right pec, a sweet knotwork cetic cross (from a rubbing of an ancient GY in Ireland) on my left thigh, and the "M" scorpio symbol on my left fore arm (inside). Each tat is something that has strong personal meaning to me. I am going to get a Mjolner tat next, either on my left pec or somewhere on my right arm.
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Goalkeeper, I adore you baby, but drive through plzkthnxla ~

Merri, my email is amaranthine_dalliance@yahoo.com. I'd be happy to donate to your "Cover me" fund if you can help me realize what it is that I'm looking for. Drop me a line.

I'm *really* hoping that by taking the time (this has been going on for months, actually) to decide what I want, and making it perfect, that I'll be satisfied with just one.

I like looking at others' tattoos as art. I love when people are sleeved, totally realized, but I just want something simple for me.

And yes, it would be "next to a bone." But from all accounts, there is "next to a bone," and there is "NEXT TO A BONE." I think I'll pass on the second one.

I missed the dragon comment. I love Chinese dragons, but they're a bit over done. I'm fixated on this phoenix/celtic ring concept now, but if I did choose a dragon, it would be a fantasy one with a ton of details. I have some drawings done up, but not hosted, so can't be seen at the moment.

Most likely silver, breaking out of the clouds at sunrise.

Thanks for all the comments, everyone. They are very enlightening, and very much appreciated.
#33 Jan 29 2004 at 2:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Noooo.

File not found.

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#35 Jan 29 2004 at 3:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wha?
http://www.devilfish.com/photos/large/phoenix.jpg
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A lot of my friends have tattoos. One guy draws them himself. His latest one is a dragon that wraps around his arm. Fully colored, shaded, with shadows and detail work. Oh yeah and his arm is about 25" around; the dragon's wings wrap around them. Very cool.

I've considered getting one but it's just one of many things I've never bothered to do. I'd put John Constantine on one arm, and 'Belhade' on the other.

My sister got a tattoo; it's a blue rose? or some flower, at the top of her breast. So it showed up marvellously when she was in her wedding gown! My brother got the standard barbed wires around bicep and ankle while in prison.
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Why am I getting http://parked.directnic.com/ on the links you guys are doing ? Even Katie's.

I was really interested in seeing that phoenix too =/

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I've got an awesome pheonix I worked up for some sports team somewhere... they were called the Firebirds... but I decided I liked the design more than they wanted it, so I fixed them up with something else. I'll do some knot work around it, and see what happens.

Looking through my jazz at work, I've also got a dragon, an AMAZINGLY cute rhino, a wonderful horse, and a couple other things. I'm out of town until Sunday, but I'll certainly shoot you an email very shortly. =)
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I got some stuff worked up for you: gimmie a few to get with you via email. =)

One of 'em is awesome. If you don't get it, I will!

Got you a horse, a pheonix, and a dragon so far... The dragon's my favorite, the pheonix took the most work. =P All of 'em are designed with a 5"x5" size in mind, lemme know if that's too big.
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No email received, and I've been anxiously sitting at the edge of my seat =D

If it hasn't been sent, yet, no worries. I'm just having problems with email, as well as with links lately. =/

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I wanna see toooooo!

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Speaking as a quasi-expert on tatooing (I'm a sailor) They are ADDICTING! Seriously, I have 12 tats and am contemplating more. If I had a digital camera I'd post them. Always personalize your tattoo, flash books are a very bad idea. Also, try to find a tattoo shop where the people there are into it for the art, not the paycheck. If a tattooist can't draw, he can't sling ink either, so always check that.

Something that no one has spoke of, safety. Before you get the tat, check the shop out. If the guy is using the same needle for each inkpot, there is a problem. Check sanitation, do they wipe the seats down afterwards (some tats can get bloody) all these things you want to look for. Skin infection is very very painful (Voice of experience talking) and is not something you want.

Now, on to my tats. The two that I'm am proud of are my half-sleeves that I have on each arm.
On the left arm I have a Death type figure in tattered robes, no feet showing. You cannot see his face but he clutches a rough looking scythe with the blade turned inwards. On the blade it reads Carpe Noctum (Not original, I know, but makes sense with the other one.)
On my right arm is a brunette (some of the little color I have in my tats) with delicate features wearing a simple, thin white dress that appears to be blowing slightly in the wind. The artist who I had sling my ink was good enough that he was able to fade the outline of her body onto my arm. Her feet are obscured by clouds. She is holding an open tome in front of her, you know, the big old-fashioned books. On the book it says Carpe Diam.

I designed both of the tats, but I didn't draw them.
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Dal, she's out of town until Sunday.
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Thanks for the update.

I read "Give me a few" as in "Give me a few minutes, not days."

I'm rather excited to see them, and still ****** I can't see the links.
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There. Fixed that for ya...

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I just emailed them to you, Dalliance.

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Thanks to you all I drove around Sunday with Flea looking for a Tatoo place.

Might not be able to fight my urge to get one if this keeps up.
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Don't do it.

Avoid being just another fad chasing, trendy, middle aged and midlife crisis struck person who wants to retain their youth by affecting a "hip" symbol of popular culture.

Getting a tattoo is about as sorry as getting your ears pierced and buying a Harley in your 50's. It just seems so sad that these people have no identity outside of assuming a me-too-like attitude.

It's a pitiful display of shallowness.

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Ummm yeah.

Wow, you're so full of **** it's not even funny. Don't like tattoos, Totem? Then don't get one.

Tattoos have become a fad. Does this make it less meaningful when you get one? No. If you get it for the wrong reasons than yeah, you're an idiot. If you got one (or six) because you like them, good for you. Do what you want, because it's your life and your body. If someone else doesn't like it, they can **** off.

Just because something has become a fad doesn't mean it has no value. Personally I'm not going to let fad chasers ruin something for me that means something. I don't get tattoos for other people, I get them for ME. And not so I can feel young (what has that got to do with anything?) or hip (never wanted to be) or in some mysterious "in" crowd.
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I don't get tattoos for other people, I get them for ME.


Amen, sistah! I have mine, I love 'em and no one gets to see them unless I say so. ***** everyone else and their *** "twattoos". One of the great things about my tattoos is that they always take me back to a time and place in my life. And back then, life was good. Oh yeah....


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