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#1 Jan 20 2004 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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So I know that this will turn into a dicsussion of where the Dems stand, who will take New Hampshire, etc., but all that aside, did you HEAR that? I'm not sure I want someone who makes that noise as my President.Smiley: eek
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For a minute while I was watching Dean bluster around and celebrate finishing third I couldn't help but think to myself *********** Howard Dean is Gbaji! Get's killed and then claims victory with wilder and wilder rhetoric!"

I don't think that "Yeehaw!" helps his problem with people thinking he's too arrogant any. I was waiting for Tom Harkin to run up and throw holly water on him and shout "The Power of Christ COMPELS YOU!"
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#3 Jan 20 2004 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
On the Howard Stern show this morning, they were playing his speech with a recording of a **** rally. Was hilarious.

But yeah, it was odd. I pictured him in a ring with Arnold and Jesse Ventura, getting ready to wrestle for the presidential election.

For the most part though, I'd just say he is trying to self destruct. I still say that the Dems have no hopes of winning this next election and are saving their "real" candidate for when Bush is done playing with his Iraqi toys.

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#4 Jan 20 2004 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
Here is the scenario as I see it...

Hillary Clinton is waiting until 2008 so that she can run against a new Republican candidate, someone untested and un-tried. This should insure that she is elected. Right? everyone wants a first woman president. Right?

Well, teleporting to the secret room at the basement of the balls and shaft fraternity house, where only the most unknown of the secret council are allowed to meet, the strategy for 2008 is being unveiled for the republicans. Colin Powell in 2008. I mean, how else we gonna beat Hilary? Send up a darkie. One who will sufficiently carry on the party way, and not do anything too stupid. I mean, the CIA could always knock him off if he goes liberal on us, right? :)

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#5 Jan 20 2004 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good
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All the political pundits are talking about his "hot" performance in front of the Dean faithful and how that tends to make the rest of the voters leery of a candidate who let's emotion trump cooler and more calculated thinking. My thoughts were once the voter begins laughing at you instead of with you, you're finished regardless what political hurdles lay ahead.

Dean was going to have trouble even if he had done well due to him being this country's closest thing to being a true Socialist. Once he went national, he'd be eaten alive for his political stance.

Ahhh, it was fun while it lasted.

As for Gephardt, good ridance to bad rubbish. He's been in the pocket of organised labor since he was a political no0b. That'd be just what we needed-- an AFL-CIO man in the Oval Office.

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#6 Jan 20 2004 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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On the Howard Stern show this morning, they were playing his speech with a recording of a **** rally. Was hilarious.

But yeah, it was odd. I pictured him in a ring with Arnold and Jesse Ventura, getting ready to wrestle for the presidential election.

For the most part though, I'd just say he is trying to self destruct. I still say that the Dems have no hopes of winning this next election and are saving their "real" candidate for when Bush is done playing with his Iraqi toys.

Queen Skeet

Yeah and you thought Dean was gauranteed the nomination too. I'd lay off the political prognosticating for a while untill you get at least one thing right.
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#7 Jan 20 2004 at 2:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah and you thought Dean was gauranteed the nomination too.

Not that he ever mentioned to me. Just said that whoever it was wouldn't matter. I am a Dem, and I tend to agree. I'm still hopeful, but ready for disappointment.

That said, Moe, I physically recoiled when I read this:
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I mean, how else we gonna beat Hilary? Send up a darkie.

You activated my innate-fear-of-white-people button until I realized you were writing dramatically.

Edited, Tue Jan 20 14:07:20 2004 by Atomicflea
#8 Jan 20 2004 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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I'm calling my shot. Hillary will never make Presidentte. She-- even if the hardcore Dems come out in force to vote for her --wouldn't be able to overcome all the negatives she's acquired during her eight years in office. Republicans and conservatives would go to the voting booth in droves to oppose her and many moderate Dems would switch allegiances at the prospect of having a First ***** (literally and figuratively) at the helm.

Mind you, I am quite comfortable with having a woman as Commander-in-Chief, but her? Not a chance. Put it this way, if she so casually became a Yankee fan after supposedly being devoted to the Cubs all her life, what does that say about her character? That's right, she has none and she sold her soul to Satan to be a US senator and Ol' Scratch has the contract written in her monthly blood right in his back pocket.

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#9 Jan 20 2004 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
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You can't appreciate how much support Hillary has if you're a conservative. You're blinded by hatred of her and the constant barrage of negative rhetoric.

She's the most admired woman in the US.

Her book obliterated O'Riely's book, Coulter's book and everything else published at a simmilar time.

She may be a polarizing figure, but the people who actively dislike and resent her are people that aren't going to vote Democrat anyway.

Explain to me how she loses votes that Bill got the second time. Or better yet votes that Gore carried.

She has overwhelming name recognition and could raise a metric asston of money.

I think she wins votes from women who otherwise might vote for a Bush type.

Also, and this is critical. Who the hell are you guys going to trott out for '08 even if you win this one? I can't think of a single promising Republican candidate with the charisma to play nationally.

McCain's too old to run again, Jeb's happy in Florida, Powell would be nice but he'd never win the primaries. Dole's 108 by then. Santorum has the charisma of log. Lott was tactically destroyed allready. Hasert has no intrest. Schwarzenager's not native born. All the young charismatic guys are Dems. Unless there's some impressive Republican Govenor I'm just unaware of I don't see where the mantle falls.

Obviously you're not going to be moronic enough to run Cheny. Wolfowitz is about 2 feet tall.

I see extreme weakness in '08 and if Bush wins now I think Hillary fills that power vaccuumm nicely. Right time, right place, right woman for the job. I'd give her a 50/50 shot.
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#10 Jan 20 2004 at 3:21 PM Rating: Good
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The infamous Soccer Moms don't like her-- particularly after her, "What would you have me do? Stay at home and bake cookies?" gaffe which was compounded by every other anti-maternal move and policy she had the amazing ability to get behind.

She has all those atributes and then some, I'll grant you that, but it doesn't change the fact it will bring out the Right is such large numbers that it'll make whatever response by Labor, blacks, poor, and traditional East coast liberals look weak by comparison.

I also predict the Hispanic vote will move rightward for several reasons, one of which is the desire to be seen as legitimate and not a burden on society financially.

As for Colin Powell, if he is nominated (as moderate to lefty as he is on social issues) it'll cut the legs out from under the traditional black vote of the Dems. After all, if they don't vote for a respected black man who is a serious contender for the Presidency (read Al sharpton here for contrast) then any racially based argument on any subject will be made moot-- which interestingly, is what happened with Clarence Thomas. Think of it as a referendum on racial politics within a single race-- the blacks --wherein they would be forced to decide if they will forever cast themselves as a victim or will they decide to take their destiny in their own hands.

Hillary offers only more of what the Democratic Party couldn't/wouldn't do for the 50 years they held complete power in Congress: platitudes, subsidies, handouts, and lip service.

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#11 Jan 20 2004 at 3:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Firstly, I'd vote for Powell if he won the Republican nomination. Not that i think that's remotely possible, seeing as your party is the home of homicidal racists everywhere. If Powell tried to run, the old boys of this administration would throw him under the bus for everything in sight, from not getting Saddam the first time around to not convincing the UN to support us to whatever they could possibly do to stop him.

Anyway that's a non issue. If by some fluke he wins the nomination in '08 he'll be President. It wouldn't matter if we ran Jesus Christ against him.

The question is who's at bat for you guys in '08? I'm not being partisan here, I just litterally can't think of anyone with the stuff. At least W. Had name recognition and some tradition going for him. I mean no could have predicted Dean in '00 so I'm aware that someone could pop out of Storm Thurmond's decaying ghetto booty luvin *** in time for the election, but in '00 we at least had SOME idea who was on deck for the Dems.

Bradley, Kerry, Grahm, Wellstone (at the time), etc.

I just don't see those guys over on your side of the isle. Are you really comfortable with any of he Republican leadership going up against Hillary in '08 if it comes to that?
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#12 Jan 20 2004 at 4:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Unless there's some impressive Republican Govenor I'm just unaware of I don't see where the mantle falls.

What about Giuliani?
#13 Jan 20 2004 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Good one, Guliani. I don't think he could pull together the orginization, though. Also needs a higher office than Mayor, even of NYC, on his resume to be taken seriously. Hell, even W. held the Texas Memorial Head Cowboy job for a little while.

Also Rudy has a *lot* of "character questions" in his past even after his stellar perforamance in September '01. He's a little too bald to be President, also. America is too superficial to vote a blad guy into the oval office.

Be intresting to see how he does against Hillary for her Senate seat though, if that goes down.
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#14 Jan 20 2004 at 4:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Condoleeza Rice? She'd lock in the black, the female, the Right, the Stanford grads, umm, who else? Ok, so she is even more unlikely than Powell, but I could see her overtaking him if it were to come to that.

Fred Thompson? He'd be good, has name recognition, has the Law and Order watchers vote in the bag, and has terrific stage presence.

Donald Rumsfeld? If he won the Dem would mass suicide the night of Election Day.

Rudy Gullianni(sp)? The Big C knocked him on his a$$, but who knows? A divorcee might be problematic, but perhaps not in this day and age.

That governor from Michigan, something-something-Ebbers-what's-his-name? He doesn't have much recognition outside of MI and the party faithful (I can't even remember his name), but he supposedly has the Party apparatchik support.

Thinking... thinking...

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#15 Jan 20 2004 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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He's a little too bald to be President, also. America is too superficial to vote a blad guy into the oval office.

That actually made me laugh out loud, but it's true. Funny how folks in politics have their superstitions just like any other gamblers... A few months back my boss said Dean would never be President, and this she knew 'for a fact.' When I asked why, she responded,
"Obvious:Too short."
#16 Jan 20 2004 at 4:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Condoleeza Rice? She'd lock in the black, the female, the Right, the Stanford grads, umm, who else? Ok, so she is even more unlikely than Powell, but I could see her overtaking him if it were to come to that.

Fred Thompson? He'd be good, has name recognition, has the Law and Order watchers vote in the bag, and has terrific stage presence.

Donald Rumsfeld? If he won the Dem would mass suicide the night of Election Day.

Rudy Gullianni(sp)? The Big C knocked him on his a$$, but who knows? A divorcee might be problematic, but perhaps not in this day and age. (edit: after having difficulty posting due to a weird bug here at work, I can see Rudy was already mentioned, so consider this a me-too addendum)

That governor from Michigan, something-something-Ebbers-what's-his-name? He doesn't have much recognition outside of MI and the party faithful (I can't even remember his name), but he supposedly has the Party apparatchik support.

Thinking... thinking...

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Condoleeza Rice? She'd lock in the black, the female, the Right, the Stanford grads, umm, who else? Ok, so she is even more unlikely than Powell, but I could see her overtaking him if it were to come to that.

Have you heard her speak? Also, please inform me when Republican's nominate a black woman so I can prpare for the many monkies flying out of my *** and the damage they will do to passerby.

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Fred Thompson? He'd be good, has name recognition, has the Law and Order watchers vote in the bag, and has terrific stage presence.

American's would never vote for a former Actor to be president, silly. What a whacko you are! Seriously, though, he's been out of the game for too long. I don't think he'd be intrested to be honest.

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Donald Rumsfeld? If he won the Dem would mass suicide the night of Election Day.

No, the terms of his deal with Satan are quite specefic I hear. He's reached the peak of his lifetime political power. Be a fun debater to watch though.

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Rudy Gullianni(sp)? The Big C knocked him on his a$$, but who knows? A divorcee might be problematic, but perhaps not in this day and age. (edit: after having difficulty posting due to a weird bug here at work, I can see Rudy was already mentioned, so consider this a me-too addendum)

Needs to be a Senator first.

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That governor from Michigan, something-something-Ebbers-what's-his-name? He doesn't have much recognition outside of MI and the party faithful (I can't even remember his name), but he supposedly has the Party apparatchik support.

John Engler? Yeah maybe. Also bald though. What's up with all you guys being bald? Must be the evil seeping out of the skull kiling all the hair.



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#18 Jan 20 2004 at 9:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Dean was going to have trouble even if he had done well due to him being this country's closest thing to being a true Socialist. Once he went national, he'd be eaten alive for his political stance.


A common misconception about Dean is that he is some kinda ultra left winger. This is absolutely not true. He ran his state as a centrist. Kucinich is the liberal.

Dean has played the part of the liberal. He has claimed to champion gay marraige in Vermont, for example. In all honesty the state supreme court compelled him to sign that law. When it comes to homeland security, military spending, gun control the death penalty et al and ad nausuem Dean is very centrist.

Kucinich is the liberal in this race, folks. I read a quote in time or newsweek a few months ago that ran something like "Dean supporters are just liberals that haven't heard Dennis speak".

Dean's anti-war and anti-Bush retoric seems extreme, but really just is a reflection on how extreme right Bush's people have guided this country. I used to be a Dean supported, did the meetup thing a few times, but I no longer trust him. I think he is misrepresenting himself. I also think the right mislables him to create fear about some wild eyed hippy trying to unseat good ol W.

Personally I like John McCain over Bush or Dean or Gore or Hillary. I am a registered democrat, btw. McCain is a man with real integrety, but I will support whoever wins the dem nomination without flinching. I'm pulling for Edwards though.
#19 Jan 20 2004 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Edwards is going to make a hell of a VP for President Kerry.
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#20 Jan 21 2004 at 8:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Shall I mark that down, Mr. Prognosticator?

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#21 Jan 21 2004 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I picked Kerry for President in the prediction thread allready. Go back and review who got the most right :-) If you're refering to Edwards, yes I really think he's running for VP this time.rfdrtf
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#22 Jan 21 2004 at 9:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Duly noted. I can't wait to get my GWB action figure!

/rubs hands together

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