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#1 Jan 19 2004 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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OR just give the Patriots the trophy now?
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#2 Jan 19 2004 at 11:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just for old times sake, they should play..
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As a native North Carolinian and Panthers fan, I look forward to seeing them make you eat this statement.

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#4 Jan 19 2004 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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I suppose it's possible Carolinia could win....

If the patriots defense all die suddenlt from being hit by a comet or something I guess.
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#5 Jan 19 2004 at 1:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Patriots by 14

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#6 Jan 19 2004 at 4:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't guess anyone saw what the Panthers did to the Birds?

Final score

Panthers 21

Pats 10

I'll put a 1000 plat on it.
#7 Jan 20 2004 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
It is highly unlikely that the Panthers will beat the Pats, despite what they did to the Eagles. I mean, come on, the Eagles are choke artists anyway. If you really want to compare, just look at what the Pats did to poor Manning, and the Colts. That was fairly ridiculous. To answer the question though, they should play the SuperBowl, because then we get to see all the new commercials...that's the real reason to watch anyway! The game is either going to be really close, and come down to a field goal (hmmmm, does that sound familiar?), or it is just going to be a total Pats free-for-all! I kind of hope that it is a little close, so it's somewhat of a game!

Panthers - 14
Pats - 17
#8 Jan 20 2004 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
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i didnt expect the pats to beat the colts..

but since they did and since carolina beat my team (cowboys) go Pats!
#9 Jan 20 2004 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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As one of the all time great gamblers Hunter S. Thompson once wrote, "Don't bet with your heart".

Take that advice Panter fans, because as much as I hate to say it, the Pats are gonna open up a can.
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#10 Jan 20 2004 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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You know, I knew crystal meth was a problem in the Carolinas, but I never realized smoking crack was so prevelant.

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I don't guess anyone saw what the Panthers did to the Birds?

Ran the ball against a team with a bad running defense? Won't happen against New England. Davis will get about 20 yards in 20 carries against NE. You can't run the ball up the middle with Ted Washington sitting there. Davis can't run the ball on the outside. So now you're down to one running back who can run around the outside....and get crippled by the hardest hitting secondary in the NFL.

Let's see, what else did the PAntehrs do to Philly? Injured a quarterback? I wouldn't pin my hopes on that one. Brady may be a metrosexual, but he's not fragile. Oh you had the Eagles drop about 100 balls. Troy Brown drops about one every thirty games.

Let me provide you a preview of the Super Bowl. DelHome holding the ball and looking around confused as he gets sacked. Steven Smith unconcious on the sideline from Harrison driving his helmet through his sternum. Ty Law running into the end zone after DelHome get's so confused and deperate over the defense that he starts taking chances. The boring Patriot offense grinding time off the clock with short passing plays and by running the ball not for yards, but to use time.

Feild goal after feild goal putting the game further and further out of reach.


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Final score

Panthers 21

Pats 10

I'll put a 1000 plat on

That's laughable. You'll be lucky to hold the Patriot DEFENSE to 10 points.
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#11 Jan 20 2004 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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I wouldn't use the term choke artists while you are predicting a win by the Pats...

Panthers will give them all they can handle, and have a very good chance of winning.
#12 Jan 20 2004 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Smasharoo wrote:

"Let's see, what else did the PAntehrs do to Philly? ...."

Well for one they scored 11 more points than Philly. Any other questions?
#13 Jan 20 2004 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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Let's face it, the Patsies have perfected the use of the short-short passing game in place of their running game. In fact, they don't have a running game. Carolina needs to work on stopping those mini passes and they have a chance, otherwise it'll be NE over B'rer Rabbit by 17.

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#14 Jan 20 2004 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Well for one they scored 11 more points than Philly. Any other questions?

And?

Was there someone, somewhere in the country who thought the Eagles were an equivilent team to the Patriots? What happened when New England played the Eagles earlier this year? Oh yes, that's right, they crushed them.

You know what the freaking Houston Texans did to Carolina? They scored 4 more points than them.

Well, golly, gomer! I guess that means that the Texans are the best team in the leuge and can't lose a game, right? I mean they BEAT CAROLINA!

New England has won FOURTEEN GAMES IN A ROW.

New England has been there before.

Belicheck is a better coach.

New England's defense is better.

New England's offense is better.

New England's special teams is better.

New England's whole coaching staff is better.

New England's kicker is better.

Carolina's running game is better.

Let's add that up.

Right. You lose.

You *are* going to see lot of hype trying to make this match up seem like it's closer than it actually is. New England and Carolina are like mirror images of each other. They both have the same basic philosophy. The problem is New England is just better all around. Carolina would have been much, much better off facing Indy. Simmilarly New England would have been better off facing Philly.

For either team, that would have involved game planning against a very good offense and a weak defense. I think Carolina beats Indy in the super bowl if that had been the match up. It's not, however.

The matchup now is Carolina having to Gameplan against a defense that looks entirely difrent every week. They have to try and run against one of if not THE best run stopping defense in the NFL. They have to try to somehow score points without relying on the running game against a secondary that will absolutely devestate recivers going over the middle.

Davis will be a non factor. He's a downhill runner who will be staring at 400 pounds of Ted Washington all day. Smith will probably catch about 2 passes for 20 yards. Ty Law is a shut down corner. He's without a doubt the best CB playing in the NFL at the moment.

What does that possibly leave you with?

Hope that Brady will throw interceptions? Not likely.

Hope that you can run the ball against the Pats? Very not likely.

Hope that DelHomeboy can outsmart Bellicheck and read into defenses that make every QB in the leuge look like pop warner players when they go against him? You're better off hoping for the comet hitting the team plane on the way to Texas.

So really, I'm at a complete loss here. Take me down the yellow brick road here.


HOW do you envision Carolina being anyhting but a 15 to 1 shot to have any chance of winning this game?

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#15 Jan 20 2004 at 3:58 PM Rating: Good
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Any given Sunday, Smash, any given Sunday. That said, yes, the Patsies would have to be the favorite for the Superbowl. However, there's a theorem out there by some guy whose name I can't remember that says every win a team gets in a row brings them that much closer to their next loss-- and with their 14 wins in a row they are due for a loss --and soon. After all, it was the Dolphins who had the last really long unbeaten streak like this too?

Ok, ok, so they won the championship that year, but still there has to be something about this that applies, right?*

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#16 Jan 20 2004 at 9:17 PM Rating: Good
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If there were no such thing as an upset, then the patriots would not have their last ring. They sure as hell were not as good a team as the Rams that year.

Are the Patriots the favorite? duh. Does the favorite always win? No.

Panthers 17
Patriots 10

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#17 Jan 20 2004 at 9:41 PM Rating: Good
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New England barely won most of the road games that they won (including an overtime game in Houston). If they were playing at home, sure, they have it locked, but they can't fluke out tight road games forever. Carolina has a good shot.
#18 Jan 20 2004 at 11:05 PM Rating: Good
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New England barely won most of the road games that they won (including an overtime game in Houston). If they were playing at home, sure, they have it locked, but they can't fluke out tight road games forever. Carolina has a good shot.


Neither team has home field advantage here. This is the Superbowl, not the World Series. While I suppose it's possible for a city to host the Superbowl and have their team play in it, I can't recall a game when that's happened (not that I've been paying attention though).

Superbowls tend to have an effect on all teams similar to playing an away game. Kinda. Teams with more veteran players and lower choke factor tend to do well and teams that don't tend to do poorly. It's that "everythings on the line in this one game" factor that you just don't get with any other sport that makes it that much better (IMO).

I'm leaning towards the Pats as well. More experience in the team. More consistency in their play. That's a combo that usually wins the Superbowl.
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#19 Jan 20 2004 at 11:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Carolina doesn't have a "good shot". I realize it's important for the media to sell it that way. "New England barely wins games!" "Carolina is just like New England two years ago!!" "Anything can happen!!" "Please!!! Please!! Don't **** our ratings!!"

They have about a 1 in 15 shot. That's not terrible, but it's certainly not good.

The Patriots will probably end up being 14 point favorites, win by 4 or 5 points and still leave room for people to say "They barely won the super bowl...twice."

Last I checked margin of victory didn't count towards who walked away with the hardware at the end of the day.
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#20 Jan 21 2004 at 12:14 AM Rating: Good
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Hope that Brady will throw interceptions? Not likely.


Oh but he will. Bet on it. He'll have the best D line in the NFL right now crawling up his *** every play. It won't be an easy day for Brady, win or lose.
#21 Jan 21 2004 at 12:15 AM Rating: Good
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I don't think New England's offence is good enough to make it that much of a blow out. These are two defensive teams playing, that screams low scoring game to me. Carolina has those two good running backs, if it's close I can see a running game winning this one. If it's a five point game toward the end, then one missed tackle can lose the game.
#22 Jan 21 2004 at 5:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Things are going to be a mess here in Houston on superbowl day. I plan on barricadeing myself in my appartment with my bow and several pointy objects at the ready to fend off the hords when the rioting begins.

I will of course be following my 12 year old tradition and rootign for the dolphins during the superbowl. Yes. I know... And yes, I am aware of that fact. No, I don't think it is crazy to root for a team that is not, in point of fact, IN the superbowl. It's a washington thing.
#23 Jan 21 2004 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh but he will. Bet on it. He'll have the best D line in the NFL right now crawling up his *** every play. It won't be an easy day for Brady, win or lose.

You've never watched a Patriot's game untill the last couple of weeks, have you? Brady's thrown 12 interceptions all year, 4 of those in week 1. The Carolina D line will be in the overpersuing hall of fame after this year. Two words for you: Screen pass. It Will be an easy day for Brady. It'll be a laugher. He may not have great stats or long TD throws, or even be on the field for more than a few plays at a time, but he'll win the game. New England will never be behind. They'll score first and just choke the clock and frustrate DelHomme all day.

It'll be boring. People will say Carolina choked because they don't understand that every team looks like **** when they play the Patriots, and because the score won't be 90 to 6 the media will say the Patriots "almost gave it up at the end!"

Regardless they'll be taking the trophy home, and Carolina will be having parades for the brave team that made it to the big game and just barely lost!

Count on it.
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#24 Jan 21 2004 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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I have to go with smash on this one-- Brady is the best quarterback in the NFL today. Again, as I said earlier, his short-short passes for 3-5 yards makes up for the running game that the Patsies don't have. It's a high percentage, low yardage set of plays which keeps the interceptions down, a high 3rd down conversion rate, and a quick play which keeps Brady from having to take a beating from the defense while waiting for the wide receiver to run all the way down the field for the big yardage pass action play.

The problem for either team is the cooling off period which occurs in the two weeks which lead up to the Superbowl. The anticipation builds, the tension gets racheted up, and teams can get tight no matter how good they are. Then when they take the field during the first quarter it becomes a comedy of errors and the other team if they are more relaxed can take advantage of them.

Regardless, NE has to be the odds-on favorite.

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This is why they play the games

Indeed. That's why I say they're 1 in 15 shots. Might be that one time on Super Sunday.

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