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#1 Jan 15 2004 at 8:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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On the news this evening, a man sentenced to 1 year in prison for forcing his wife to have sex with him.

His defence was: it is her wifely duty to have sex with him whenever he wants it.

Wifely duty???
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#2 Jan 15 2004 at 9:01 PM Rating: Good
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Believe it or not there is a law in Aust. (or at least I remember something along those lines) that in any marriage there MUST be a reasonable amount of sex. The grey area is that no one can actually deem what is a reasonable amount... So you could argue that once for a kid/on the honeymoon is enough...

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#3 Jan 15 2004 at 10:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Had to be Texas.
#4 Jan 15 2004 at 11:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nope, Flea, even better...Nova Scotia. Dang Canadians!

Now, an article like this forces me to ask to the question:

Should fidelity be reconsidered? I just wonder how much happier people would be if they could get sex from sources outside marriage? I had an "open" relationship once and I'll never do it again. Emotionally damaging. That being said, what do you people think? Could cheating be made to be ok?



Edited, Thu Jan 15 23:51:50 2004 by taredoru
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#5 Jan 16 2004 at 1:48 AM Rating: Good
I don't think it could ever be made "ok" because people are basically too insecure. It's assumed that if you have sex with someone, there must be some emotional attachment there, and/or you're unhappy with your mate. Either way you are doing damage to the relationship.

I've known several people who have been into open relationships, and I just don't see how they do it. But to each his/her own. The only thing that bothers me is men that claim it's their "nature". Yeah, if you're a ******* cave man still.

I'd ramble on but it occurs to me I'm too tired to think clearly on this or any subject.
#6 Jan 16 2004 at 8:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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I just wonder how much happier people would be if they could get sex from sources outside marriage?


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The only thing that bothers me is men that claim it's their "nature".


Well, where I come from men and women both were raised to think that the only thing you should never do to a wife that was unforgivable was leave. You could cheat (and they all did), but "flaunting it" so that your wife couldn't even hold up her head was a no-no. I can't remember the number of times my aunts consoled themselves with the mantra "But I'm still the wife." The arguments used to justify it to an inquisitive and outraged twelve-year old were that

1. It's in a man's nature to cheat, and,
2. When you love someone you take the good with the bad.

The only thing that pisses me off more than those arguments now is the "If someone cheats they must not be getting something they need at home" argument. You would think that people have no control over their mouths or their zippers.
Thank God that time passes and views change.
#7 Jan 16 2004 at 10:01 AM Rating: Excellent
Before doing anything, I try to think how I would feel if my S.O. did it. The idea of her being with another man/person really pisses me off, and having probably too good of an imagination, I know that I'd never want to do that to my S.O.

All I know is that if you are able to have an "open" relationship, or cheat on your S.O., then you either aren't ready for a relationship, or are with the wrong person.

There are three major reasons I don't/wont cheat:

1. I don't want to

2. I'd hate myself for hurting my S.O.

3. My honey is a fine POA.

It's as simple as that. Either you love the person you are with, or you don't. And I do.

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#8 Jan 16 2004 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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The only thing that pisses me off more than those arguments now is the "If someone cheats they must not be getting something they need at home" argument. You would think that people have no control over their mouths or their zippers.
Thank God that time passes and views change.


It is true. He or she is NOT getting something at home. But it's the cheater's responsibility to work within the relationship to get what he or she needs. If that's impossible, then they're with the wrong person. There are no passives in a true relationship.

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All I know is that if you are able to have an "open" relationship, or cheat on your S.O., then you either aren't ready for a relationship, or are with the wrong person.


Absolutely 100 % correct. Soul mates satiate each other. There is no need for outside "assistance."

This "It's men's nature to cheat" is utter ********* We aren't pack animals, we're human.

Another argument I've heard is "Intelligent people make their own rules about sex." Incorrect. Multiple partners is a cop out for not admitting the person you're with isn't the one that is right. These so called "intelligent people" are simply making justifications to rationalize their behavior.

For the original topic, it's good to know that governments are starting to see that forced sex within a marriage is still rape.
#9 Jan 16 2004 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
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The law was changed in the US around 1975 to make it illegal to force sex on ones wife. Prior to that it was legeally impossible for a man to rape his wife.

Just one more sign of the weakening of the institution of marrige.
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#10 Jan 16 2004 at 2:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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dumb f*ck wrote:
Just one more sign of the weakening of the institution of marrige.


giving woman rights weakens the instituition of marriage??

thank you sir you have just proven me your opinion is absolutely moronic and anything you say should never ever be taken seriously because it comes from a pig head.
#11 Jan 16 2004 at 2:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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The law was changed in the US around 1975 to make it illegal to force sex on ones wife. Prior to that it was legeally impossible for a man to rape his wife.

Just one more sign of the weakening of the institution of marrige.


Maybe that is what Bush is proposing that 1 some odd billion dollars for. Think his wife has sex with him voluntarily?

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Just because everybody and their mom says it: /grabs the popcorn

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#12 Jan 16 2004 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Just one more sign of the weakening of the institution of marrige.


I don't think i have read such utter horse $hit from anyone above the age of 10. I am somewhat glad that people like yourself are naturally repulsive to women. So there is no chance of you procreating and that precludes another ******* from the genetic pool.

Get back in your cave with your club...APE!

Edited, Fri Jan 16 14:33:26 2004 by tarv
#13 Jan 16 2004 at 2:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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When I was in the aforementioned open relationship, I just figured that the only way this fella I was with could be happy, was by being allowed to have "options". I figured if I didn't ever know about it, it wouldn't bother me. I guess what I learned is that it did bother me in the end and secondly, I needed to decide for myself what I needed out of a relationship. It was so easy to give up my values, just because I liked this fella so much. It was also easy to cheat on him, without any guilt. A very unhealthy relationship.

Now, I am happy, and faithful. It rules.
Wifely duty? To look after her own needs first and select her compromises carefully.

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#14 Jan 16 2004 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
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giving woman rights weakens the instituition of marriage??

thank you sir you have just proven me your opinion is absolutely moronic and anything you say should never ever be taken seriously because it comes from a pig head.


Murth, this is Sarcasm.
Sarcasm, this is Murth.

The argument against things like gay marrige has been that it's important to preserve things like the "sanctity" of marrige or the "institution" of marrige. No one ever seems to mention that one hundred years ago the "institution" of marrige meant same race people entering into a relationship where the husband de facto owned the wife.

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#15 Jan 16 2004 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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interesting.. so this 'sarcasm' you speak of.. does it mean you were only pretending to be a pig? so i should take evrything you say as sarcasm now? ok

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yes yes now i see the sarcasm !
#16 Jan 16 2004 at 3:12 PM Rating: Good
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skeet, pass the popcorn ?
#17 Jan 16 2004 at 3:40 PM Rating: Good
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Just one more sign of the weakening of the institution of marrige.


Good lord, people. HOW LONG have you been hanging around the forum ?

Even I, hypersensitive and overly emotional, noted Smash's tongue-in-cheekism.



#18 Jan 16 2004 at 4:15 PM Rating: Excellent
Yah, Smash is a nice guy, he's just misunderstood.

It's like somebody asking me on the forum if I like liver, and me typing "Oh, yes, sure do" while shaking my head "No". Not very likely for people to know I was being sarcastic.

For Smash's next act, he's going to make balloon animals for us!

Look, a giraffe!

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#19 Jan 16 2004 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I'm not surprised that Skeet tok it litterally. He's of the impression that everything I post is, by defenition, the truth.

It's an easy mistake to make.
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#20 Jan 16 2004 at 4:46 PM Rating: Excellent
Yeah, except for No. Look again, it was tarv and Murth that took it literally. I responded with a lame joke about Bush. Get your facts straight, Smash.

Oh wait, I get it, more sarcasm. Good one.

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#21 Jan 18 2004 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
Oy.

Non-consensual sex is rape. It does not matter what the person's relation to you is.

Did you know that until the early 1970's it was legal to kill Mormons in Missouri? Just for being a Mormon. Now THAT is a law I would like to see come back...

Long standing joke between me and my husband is once a week and twice on Sundays. We read that in an advice column a couple years ago, thought it was hysterical.

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#22 Jan 18 2004 at 8:44 PM Rating: Good
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Hang on a second here-- I can't believe that there are any guys on this board who would be opposed to such a claim as "wifely duty." With all y'all's talk about scoring, cheap and sleazy women, going ugly early, and the like, now you guys are going to get all sensitive and pretending that you care what they think?

Ha! Not likely. More that y'all's S.O.s are looking over your shoulder as you type these posts and are hoping to earn sympathy sex-- her sympathy for you because your balls are in a jar up on the closet shelf...

Weaklings. My wife does her wifely duty and fetches me a sammich afterwards. Only she does it because I am the "King."

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#23 Jan 18 2004 at 8:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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oooohhhh maybe we can get a scientologist hunting law passed!!!!!!
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Them's good eatin'!!!
#25 Jan 19 2004 at 6:05 AM Rating: Good
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Hang on a second here-- I can't believe that there are any guys on this board who would be opposed to such a claim as "wifely duty." With all y'all's talk about scoring, cheap and sleazy women, going ugly early, and the like, now you guys are going to get all sensitive and pretending that you care what they think?


Any wife of mine wouldn't need to consider it to be a duty. In my house it would be known as "wifely pleasure"
#26 Jan 19 2004 at 12:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Totem said:
I am the "King."


So does this mean that you accept my proposal? Smiley: inlove

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(you'll have to get your own damn sammich though, and pick me up one while you're at it)
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