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#27 Apr 28 2007 at 5:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Since people are looking at this thread....


Are we ever going to get a response to premium users getting the option to customize the sidebar and color scheme on the client end?

Edited, Apr 28th 2007 9:01am by PsiChi
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#28 Apr 28 2007 at 6:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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That was once upon a time the placeholder for the old Mythrian tower EQ 1 spell research page. Now anything that isn't recognized by the site gets redirected to the news template.
Gotcha. I kind of guesses that that was the case but the thing that made me ask was some Google search I did for IGE or Brock Pierce or whatever lead to a cached page on the mythiran.allakhazam domain. So I didn't think it was completely random.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
That was once upon a time the placeholder for the old Mythrian tower EQ 1 spell research page. Now anything that isn't recognized by the site gets redirected to the news template.
Gotcha. I kind of guesses that that was the case but the thing that made me ask was some Google search I did for IGE or Brock Pierce or whatever lead to a cached page on the mythiran.allakhazam domain. So I didn't think it was completely random.


A long time ago, there was a sub-site called the Mythrian Tower. It was an info site for EQ Casters. This was a long, long time ago. (Before the bestiary)

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#30 Apr 28 2007 at 7:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yes many of the features we want to add have not gotten done yet. What I believe happened -- and this is really my guess more than something that was told to me directly -- is that the investors stretched their funding to the max when they bought us and several other companies at the same time and when IGE started to become far less profitable than it had been in the past. We also became less profitable than before the sale because we got lumped in with Ogaming and Thottbot, both of which had been losing money for years, and became linked with IGE by many players which hurt our reputation. It's taken us a year to get that turned around and start to make money again.

Keep in mind that Affinity is a business and is in this strictly for the money. Very few of the people I know at Affinity actually play these games. Most of their investors are institutions. The amount of investment they will make into our network is likely proportional to how profitable we are or project to be. Fortunately, pretty much the entire management team at Affinity has turned over in the past year and the new people have been much more receptive to our suggestions and far more enthusiastic about our potential. We've started to implement the ideas we had a year ago and so far they have been working very well. With IGE gone, it is my hope that we will become a higher focus for them and get the resources needed to get everything we want to do done.
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#31 Apr 28 2007 at 8:05 AM Rating: Good
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Well it just goes to show you that it's not worth getting worked up over things like what happened last year. In the end- it makes minor news and everything is back to normal.

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#32 Apr 28 2007 at 8:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can live without the avatar and smilies.

I'll open up for my WoWReader/Signature guide again and I've started contributing on the class boards. I'm thrilled that the site can now proudly claim that they have NADA to do with IGE. But I was and still am disappointed about the cloak and dagger approach you all took to the deal. We were never given the much awaited facts about the merge and now it's pointless as IGE is gone (so there's no reason to do the whole conspiracy thing anymore).

It'll make me sleep better at night for sure, and it definitely improved on my personal opinion of some of the people here on the site. My points posted back in whenever still stand though. The site needs to get with the program to survive the massive acceleration WoWHead and other sites are starting.

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Other than faster load times, easier to access info, better search function? Well type in "ravaged caravan" on WoWhead. Then look on Allakhazam. Notice what is missing. One example, becoming all too regular though.


This is my biggest gripe with the site at the moment. The search is way too sensitive compared to WoWHead or even the sister-site, Thottbot. Unless you know what you're looking for, things get ugly really fast.

Example 1.

Thottbot search on "shadow cloak"
http://www.thottbot.com/?s=shadow+cloak
As you can see at the bottom you've got the Cloak of Shadows ability. In multiple raw versions (someone should clean that up too).

WoWHead search on "shadow cloak"
http://www.wowhead.com/?search=shadow+cloak#M0zc
It shows the various results in tabs. I clicked the "Abilities (1)" tab and lo and behold. Definitely shows that someone who knows something is behind this search feature. The categorizing into tabs is also a major plus from both a pimped and user friendly point of view.

Allakhazam search on "shadow cloak"
http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=shadow+cloak
As you can see, no Cloak of Shadows.
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0 spells found.


I also still think you should have someone run the spell lists for World of Warcraft through. Too many spells have wrong information tied to them.

Example 1.

My Warlock's Soulstone apparently costs 0 mana to create, and my summonings too.

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Name            Category    Level  Mana  Cast  Recast  Range       Description 
Summon Succubus Demonology   20     0 	10.00 	0.0   Self Only   Summons a Succubus.


http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spelllist.html?class=Warlock

Example 2.

Or my Warrior's Thunder Clap which apparently costs 200 mana/energy (for the unenlightened people who don't know, Warriors don't use mana/energy, they use rage - and they only use 20 for Thunder Clap):

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Rank 1 
Effect 1:	School Damage 
Effect 2:	Apply Aura: Haste - Melee 
Level:	6 
Classes:	Warrior 
Mana/Energy:	200 
Range:	Self Only 
Cast Time:	0.00 
Cooldown:	4.0 seconds 
Duration:	10 seconds


http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?wspell=6343


But I'm glad that I can once more recommend Allakhazam.com to people without feeling like I just made Xao Ching a favor. Not that I hate Chinese people, but you know what I mean. Ni hao.

I'll miss the tea parties with the goldfarmers on my server though. That was kind of nice, despite none of them being able to communicate in English. I guess I'll have to live with the fact that instead of sipping tea with them I now corpse camp and report them.

*shrug*

Anyways, a good report must have a conlusion. My conclusion:

Thumbs up, Allakhazam & Co. Thumbs up.

Now upgrade the site!

Edited, Apr 28th 2007 6:16pm by Mazra
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#33 Apr 28 2007 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Princess PsiChi wrote:
Since people are looking at this thread....


Are we ever going to get a response to premium users getting the option to customize the sidebar and color scheme on the client end?

Edited, Apr 28th 2007 9:01am by PsiChi


Forget the paying subscribers, Alla already has their money. They need to direct their focus on other marks.
#34 Apr 28 2007 at 10:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you have specific bugs to report, it would be most helpful if you posted them in a separate thread.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
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As long as we're all chatting, could any mods shed light onto what a Mythiran is? It was just something that popped up when I was Googling various things relation to Affinity back a week or so ago, I'm not implying that it is/was anything seedy.


http://ige.allakhazam.com/

Bwahahahahaha


http://deadguyisastupididiottryingtogettheconspiracytheoristsworkedup.allakhazam.com/

any thing you put in there that doesn't have another redirect goes to the news site.


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#36 Apr 28 2007 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
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rale wrote:
If you have specific bugs to report, it would be most helpful if you posted them in a separate thread.


What bugs? Are you referring to the points Bodhi and I brought up? If so then I'm sorry that I have to inform you that said "bugs" have been brought up numerous times in seperate threads on seperate occasions. In all cases they were completely ignored and nothing has been done about them since.

How far do you want us to go to report bugs? Phone you directly? Send an e-mail? Dare I suggest posting in the Feedback forum? Oh, but no one reads them.

I've also brought up the "glitch" which causes the text window to scroll up every time you insert a tag using the buttons. And I've mentioned the lack of "Back" buttons in places where using the browser's Back button isn't an option due to the browser returning you to a cached copy of the page, not the updated one.

So many things have been brought up, but if we're lucky enough to get a response it's either out of topic or doesn't make any sense.

Here's the seperate thread about the skills/abilities "bug". Lots of good points, but no admin attention.

Here's the seperate thread about window scrolling up when inserting tags. Confirmed by other posters, bumped twice and yet nothing.

I don't have the forum search feature anymore, so I won't go through all 129 pages to find them all.

And don't tell me it's because you missed them. I've seen RMT threads get a response in lightspeed while the bug thread just below was left untouched for two days despite being bumped regularly.

Sorry if I seem a little hostile, but check the goddam threads when they're there instead of waiting until someone brings it up in another thread just so you can pummel the poster and suggest they use another thread for those issues.

I've seen that method of bullet dodging being used before. It didn't work.

Edited, Apr 28th 2007 11:31pm by Mazra
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#37 Apr 28 2007 at 6:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Bodhi, seeing as you hate this site (Or you come off as such) Why do visit it?

Speaking of WoWHead, do they have EqHead and such as well? Or is this just a WoW exclusive info bank?
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Illia wrote:
A long time ago, there was a sub-site called the Mythrian Tower. It was an info site for EQ Casters. This was a long, long time ago. (Before the bestiary)


Been a long time in coming but many thanks for all the work you did on the bestiary over the years. /bow
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#39 Apr 29 2007 at 2:34 AM Rating: Default
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Prince justdistaint wrote:
Bodhi, seeing as you hate this site (Or you come off as such) Why do visit it?

Speaking of WoWHead, do they have EqHead and such as well? Or is this just a WoW exclusive info bank?


I don't hate the site. I just enjoy ******** at the admins.

I am glad to see that IGE got sold, also glad to see that Alla's is in the black again.
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WoWHead is World of Warcraft exclusive from what I can tell. But I don't play more than one MMO at a time, currently World of Warcraft.

World of Warcraft is the most popular MMO out there, outdoing the competition by millions of subscribers. World of Warcraft is what you and I play, it's what almost everyone plays. It's the jewel in the collection. There might be more FFXI posters here, but I doubt it. Just look at the amount of people who have crossed over to the World of Warcraft within the last month. Half the OOT crowd went from WoW haters to WoW players.

The World of Warcraft crowd is spread out over Thottbot, Allakhazam, WoWHead and some of the other sites (Curse Gaming, for instance and IGN), but there are still a lot of posters here who use the site exclusively for World of Warcraft, and to them it doesn't matter if there's an EQ site, FFXI site, LOTRO site and SWG site here as well. What matters is the site about the game they play. If that site doesn't live up to their demands, they'll find one which does.

And so what, one might ask. Well, not much, really, unless Allakhazam.com is aiming for the 1st place. I'm sure Allakhazam is great for people who play multiple MMO games at the same time, but for people who only play one, it's falling behind.

And no, I don't hate the site either. If I did I'd just leave. I'm trying to help out because I enjoy the site, the people running it and the community here. It's why I care.
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does this mean that there could be a vanguard site now?


i personaly dont care, i know some would though
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To my understanding the lack of a Vanguard site had something to do with the Vanguard people giving Allakhazam.com the finger when they asked for beta keys or something like that. Not sure if they got the finger because of IGE, though.

Personally I'd rather see a Warhammer Online site coming up soon.

EDIT: Just wanted to thank whoever took a look at the class spell lists. I noticed that there are percentages instead of 0's now and the mentioned energy/mana problem has been fixed to rage instead (and the correct amount too).

You work fast, I'll give you that.

Edited, Apr 29th 2007 7:24pm by Mazra
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It really wasn't so much that they wouldn't give us keys, It's more that they actually went and pulled some of the keys we did have, and then told us to go get stuffed. They were rather rude about it too. But they can learn something from this: When you are deliberate ***** to Allakhazam, your game fails and then you get reabsorbed by SOE and people start calling you Vanguard: Saga of Zeroes behind your back.
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Psst, Saga of Zeroes..

*giggle*

Why did they pull the keys? Because Allakhazam was rumored to be in bed with the "enemy"?
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That, and Brad Mcquaid has pretty much always hated this site and the idea of spoiler sites in general since his EQ days.
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#46 Apr 29 2007 at 7:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Have Allakhazam tell you about his story of his first time meeting Brad back in like 1999-2000 someday.
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#47 Apr 29 2007 at 10:08 PM Rating: Good
Okay.

So Alla...I heard there was an interesting story about what happened the first time you met Brad back in 1999-2000.

Care to tell us about it?
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It's because of a girl, isn't it?

Isn't it?
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What is "Affinity Media"? Is it the "Affinity Media, Inc." with which John Maffei is (was?) a VP to? Is that the same as the blank check company "Affinity Media International Corp."?

If not, which state is this "Affinity Media, Inc." incorporated at? Is that its actual business name as filed with its state of incorporation and with SEC (if applicable)?

If it is the same as the "International" one, why did it say in its "For The Fiscal Year Ended December 31, 2006" SEC filing that it owned no asset pretty much except for cash equivalent? ("Affinity Media International Corp." lists approximately $19.2 million in asset, but $19.1 million of that is in one sort of cash and cash equivalent or another--basically it owns no "real" asset other than money.) IGE operations should be an asset, I'd think, and probably the "ZAM network" as well.

When did this "Affinity Media" acquire Allakhazam? Was it using that name when it acquired Allakhzam? (Wiki reports that it was RPG Holdings which bought the site.)

Exactly what does "Affinity Media sold IGE" mean? Can you detail which units/operations were sold, and to whom?

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More detailed information should help clarify the situation. At the very least, tell us what is the full legal name of this "Affinity Media", and which state or country it is established in, so people can research further.

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I'm not privy to many of the details of things, but from what I do know so far, the company in your second link there is a different company. And you shouldn't believe anything you read on Wiki...
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Yes John Maffei is my boss at Affinity Media. It is his hiring last fall that has driven things in the right direction here and gotten us the resources we have needed to start expanding again. I don't know about that SEC link. I suspect that is a different company, but I can't say for sure. We were never owned by RPG Holdings and the sale took place in February, 2006, not November 2005. Basically, as I stated before, everything in that Azor artical of which I have personal knowledge is wrong, but hey it was published on the internet on a site nobody has ever heard of, so it must be accurate. Certainly, just about every link you can find detailing the sale, including all the wiki's I have seen, can trace their "facts" back to that single article, so I wouldn't trust any of them.

The sale of IGE means just that. A month ago, IGE was owned by Affinity Media who also owns us. Now, IGE is owned by Jon Yantis, who, I believe, was one of the original founders of IGE but had sold off his share years ago. Beyond the fact that Affinity sold IGE to Yantis, I have no knowledge of the terms of the sale. Personally, I don't care. I like that we are no longer part of the same company just because that seems to make many of our members happy, and it may drive off the haters who post about us in other forums, but other than that it has no actual impact upon the running of our network. To me, all of this IGE stuff, including this part, is much ado about nothing.
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