Campaign suxFollow

rant

1.) Why do I always tank in campaign, even as lvl 60 samurai, when there are 500 paladins who fail at getting party invites??? No cures, no flashes, no vokes, nothing but berserk and dances. I hate campaign paladins. I think Attila posted about tanking as his lvl 60 mnk before lulz. Basically, if there isn't that squad of 10 NPCs fighting and tanking the mob you're engaged on, you will pull hate, and you will die.

2.) Fugging mages. Summoners meleeing with staves and whiffing, bards whiffing with joytoys and daggers, white mages aggro'ing things and sitting there on auto-attack while you help them out and kill their mob. I, nor anyone I've talked to, has ever gotten a cure before they died in a campaign battle. You should know that you DO GET EXP FOR CURING PEOPLE.

3.) Wtf cure NPCs?? Why do NPCs only cast Cure 1 on you when you're in red HP? SE is retarded on this one.

4.) Did I mention how useless PLDs are? At least toss raises, YOU GET EXP FOR THAT TOO.

5.) When you get the chat log text that says "So-and-So has begun their approach on the targeted stronghold from the Southeast", don't got looking for mobs Northeast and shout [Monster] [Where?].

Caitsith campaign is a nightmare.

end rant.

Well if you see me on PLD in campaign I am most likely 90% of the time /war.

I find you get more xp/notes by actually tanking.

RDM you're screwed for the most part. I'll usually sub /blu and solo a mob as best I can before 50 others jump on it. I don't run my mobs off the map like some people.

I've been tryin to get some notes to get cobra crackows and also cap out xp on BLM so that's what you'll see me on most of the time right now. I will sleep links off of people and raise, but that's about it.

Haven't campaigned on RNG since WoTG came out. Back in the day when only the JP did it and the best battles were in The Necropolis. Epic fights there. I used to grab the incoming mobs and pull them to the NPC's way down by the lich spawns, let them take them(the trick was to only have aggro hate because NPC's couldn't take hate off a PC.) and then pick them off one at a time. RR was a must. That was only in the first few weeks of campaign battle though.

I will have to say, and take whatever you want out of it, but if you come to campaign expect to do it with the full intention of no support. I always do. I know it sucks at the lower levels, but bring RR and all that jazz.

And about the raises, there's been quite a complaint about that. It's actually one of the least MP efficient things you can do in campaign. SE has even stated they didn't intend people to stand around raising people, in a recent interview, and aren't going to raise the xp gain for it. They plan on introducing more healing and raising NPC's though. >> ??? *arm flail* I still toss 'em out in between fighting, though.

edit: oh ya and I'll help the raise effort after a battle. I HATE gettin caught w/o RR and havin to wait on it after a battle is over. Sometimes I'll even /shout just incase there are some people out of range.

Edited, Jul 31st 2008 2:05pm by ZelgadisXI

Edited, Jul 31st 2008 2:08pm by ZelgadisXI

I love campaign.... people that do campaign could use some tweeking.

Pashlow [S] is under beastman control this week and since there are only 5ppl in zone when I arrive I think to myself... what would be a safe way to do some damage as a pld/rdm? I'll flash a trash campaign mob and bring it back to the C.A. and get some points for myself before more ppl arrive. I can easily manage 1 as a pld. Grade school logic I thought. At the C.A. there were two ppl there doing the /bard crap, who cares, don't waste a thought on them. So after 8-9 minutes of noone showing up... ppl start showing up in the zone, walking through my mob to get their tags and running off to get fragged at the tower. As i'm watching my mp slowly deteriorates for the second time after a full 300TP chivalry. In the end I lose the fight all the while asking for a cure from anyone that passes by. Hell, i even tried inviting the /bards for any kind of song buff to last longer. I was only fortunate enough to have a nice person zone in moments after I got dropped to cast raise on me. Whomever you were, thank you!

Talking about teamwork... pffft!

lol, yeah I know. They have what seems to be 2x's my HPs, and MPs yet only Cure1. I run from them when they try to cast Protect on me.



I Raise whem I'm on my RDM...I woulda Raised you yesterday afternoon, but I was on my BLM/NIN waiting for Campaign to end so I could tele to N. Gustaberg (S). I shouted for you tho ^_^

I usually tool around on my RDM/DNC cuz my BLM is stil *mumbles incoherently*
and my WHM is not used on my RDM.

I still love Campaign, if only there were more than FOUR people in E. Ronf. to drive back the Orcs! Those damned Imp things and their Multi-Stoneskin and Dispel!

You do realize that NPC healers in the cities can only cast Tier 1 spells? You will get higher tier spells cast on you outside of the city campaigns.

Read your rant a few times and I see nothing about all the /BRD who do nothing but sing songs at the Tag NPC.

I do this all the time except i use accession rapture cure IV XD ...

Ill raise people constantly as well... believe i raised Magius the other day...

However .... Campaign been very boring for me lately so i havent done as much as i have in the past.

But i agree with Shawn and most others ... PLDs and NINs alike go and just hit on things and watch people get mauled ...

Lulz also gotta love the NPCs casting Cure 4 when you have 90% of your health and Cure 1s when you are 1% from dying lol EPIC

How to survive in campaign ala Cesari the SCH taru way.

1)Find a good PLD
2) Stalk his ass
3) Spam him with tells when you are dying
4) Watch him send tells back going "WHERE ARE YOU OHMIGAAAAWD!" running about all over the place.
5) Die only for your DRG/WHM friend to show up and raise you.
6)Immediately do Accession + Cure IV + NPC without RRing yourself, get hate somehow from that one move and die.
7) See you DRG friend lol at you while PLD is still running about whacking stuff trying to find you.

Endtanis can tell you that is a typical campaign ¬¬

As for the rare times I did it, I love just grabbing a single mob for myself and hacking away on DRG esp those imps =3 The most boring campaigns though are the ones where you stand for 30 mins hitting a tower. ;o;

Edited, Aug 1st 2008 3:11pm by FallenCyana

seriously, only do this if you're asking for death. trust me i've done it enough times on scholar >.>. better off just staying unweak and just nuke or cure without accession. then again maybe u guys can do it. taru hp ftl (;_;)

not if you do it after a big fight or to pro/shell them before a fight
what is Death is AOE Drain and elemental seal.

1. XP earned for curing is said to be capped. Do you care?
2. XP earned for Raise is negligible if you consider the amount of MP needed. Do you care?
3. XP earned for damage dealt is said to be uncapped. I bet you'd care if they changed that.

That being said, why would PLDs and mages care about your HP, so you can earn max XP/tags while they get less? People act like that because SE designed Campaign in a way this is the best approach, even for mages.

If I can perform better as WHM/NIN meleeing than a WHM/BLM curing, why should I play the "regular" way? The support/healing NPCs are usually there anyway.

Yeah I posted it lol

Few things.

I agree about mages doing both. After recently acquiring a joytoy, I'm going to finish most of my RDM in Campaign, I started today. I cure, I raise while meleeing, I hit stuff. meh it all works. If I die, as long as someone picks me up when it's over, that's all I can really ask (although the sooner the better)

The curing power of NPCs is based on your cities technology level, which is directly proportional to your controlled territory, so if you're fighting in the city, expect nothing but C1's

Even now, the best xp/notes I ever get is when I go mnk/dnc. taking damage, causing damage, and curing damage all add up to give me monster results everytime. Even if I keep getting mauled, the xp I gain from damage taken omw to death outweighs whatever amount I may lose by dying.

odin, just

There is a cap to overall XP, when the current medal max XP applies. It's not a cap to specific actions.

Anyway, I have the habit to Haste, Cure, Raise and Enhance when I have the chance (I have a MP pool for a reason). I guess mages that just melee and don't cast magic AT ALL probably don't know how to cast on other people since they have the mob targetted. I'm used to type commands. A lot ^^

Of course not!

Cause if Dyluck's around, we're getting cured!

i feel that if you are fighting as a mage and not healing, I hope Karma comes back and bites you in the backside, because its your job people think that because you get to fight, healing is no longer in you job title. its kinda funny if you ask me Mnem, thats why i said i like doing Campaign as rdm, Fair healing and tanking GO!