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#1 Mar 30 2008 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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Okay, so here's the deal.
I'd like my belt one of these days, I'm getting old.
My options are thus:

1.) Beat Yumeormabaroshi, Duckn, Millenium, or any other of our high-end linkshells to claim.
* Pros: I would feel as though I earned the belt myself.
* Cons: lol, it's not happening.

2.) KS99
* Pros: Again, feeling of self-worth, potential for getting gil.
* Cons: I'm 0/13 on Horns of War and 0/1 on Early Bird. Too unlucky to make this work.

3.) I buy the item from a linkshell.
* Pros: I don't have to join an HNMLS to get it, it's quick, easy, and kinda painless, since I generally know ToD on all three of the ground gods most days.
* Cons: Guilty conscience, I go broke.

The reason I'm posting is that yeah, I've been gone a while. Elvis came and took me up to space in his Interstellar Star Cruiser, it's been two years, I'm back, etc, etc, got the suction cup marks and the transmitter and everything. I'd like to know what most linkshells sell single items or sets for when it comes to Black Belt.

A Google translate on Duckn's site revealed that they're still charging 3,000,000 for sets, which was the price when I left. Have they just not updated their site, or is a million gil still about the going rate? Just seeing how it's going on our beloved Caitsith, and weighing my options.

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#2 Mar 30 2008 at 6:57 PM Rating: Good
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KS99 has sh*tty drop, tho less than what you got. Samsara drop rates run around 1 to 3 BB items per run (5-8 orbs).

If theres any way for you to make the gil fast, I'd pay up and move on to other, more enjoyable things.

Edited, Mar 30th 2008 10:59pm by NarelCaitsith
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#3 Mar 30 2008 at 8:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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3.) I buy the item from a linkshell.
* Pros: I don't have to join an HNMLS to get it, it's quick, easy, and kinda painless, since I generally know ToD on all three of the ground gods most days.
* Cons: Guilty conscience, I go broke.


Why would you feel guilty?

You earned your gil, so you earned the right to buy whatever the hell you want with it. Good on you for having enough gil to do that. I am proud of you.

Why invest time in an HNMLS for this item when you already invested time in making gil which you could equally spend on this item?

I say go for it. :)
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#4 Mar 30 2008 at 9:03 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, totally broke. >.>
Clothcraft skillups suck as much in your crazy land of the future as they did a year and a half ago. But I've got a nice place to farm and enough stable income to eventually even save up a million gil an item if I have to. =) It'll be like farming up the gil for my Ochiudo's Kote again, except with 3 times the price and about three times easier farming than Pashhow Marshlands. =)
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#5 Mar 31 2008 at 5:49 AM Rating: Good
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Hijacking. If anyone wants to give me a Wyrm Beard, that'd be awesome. >.>
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#6 Mar 31 2008 at 7:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I would just make friends with some LS's or hunt yourself some of the lesser NMs then possibly buy the beard. I know Bob Vila got lucky and went 1/1 when we got Adamantoise. If you have some friends in shells you could also ask them, I personally don't see a reason to offer outrageous prices if a person can't afford them, then floor it if they don't pay.

Idk, I would just shoot some questions to some NA LS's and see what they would do for you. Generally any KSNM99 run i've been on results in the flooring of multiple wyrm beards &/or behemoth tongues. (Mostly because Bob fails to log on and come get a beard >_>)

I'll see what I can do for ya Dak, best of luck !

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#7 Mar 31 2008 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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Octypoo wrote:
I would just make friends with some LS's or hunt yourself some of the lesser NMs then possibly buy the beard. I know Bob Vila got lucky and went 1/1 when we got Adamantoise. If you have some friends in shells you could also ask them, I personally don't see a reason to offer outrageous prices if a person can't afford them, then floor it if they don't pay.

Idk, I would just shoot some questions to some NA LS's and see what they would do for you. Generally any KSNM99 run i've been on results in the flooring of multiple wyrm beards &/or behemoth tongues. (Mostly because Bob fails to log on and come get a beard >_>)

I'll see what I can do for ya Dak, best of luck !

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lol you didn't tell me last time >.>
The sooner you get them to do some more runs, the sooner this can happen so I can stop bothering everyone lol.

being 2/3 and having the DAMNEST time getting the last one: priceless >.>
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#8 Mar 31 2008 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
Option 4: Join an HNMls ;p
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#9 Mar 31 2008 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
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Thank you, everyone, for the help. =)
And yeah, I could join an HNMLS. Like yours. Let's discuss the pros and cons.

* Pros: Araxius would date rape me, tie me up in his basement, break my legs, and force me to write a novel. Black belt! I'd make millions in royalties.
* Cons: Araxius might not share the Dakren. ; ;

I think I'm gonna start showing up at camps to try and see what's going on first hand, probably Behemoth first. I think the window'll fall after Dynamis tonight.

Also, good idea about checking with the NAs. Duckn's website was pretty intimidating, so I guess I kinda forgot about that route.

TO THE BEHEMOTHCAVE!

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#10 Mar 31 2008 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Or you could be smart about it instead of wainting 100 kills on NQ's.

Time the King windows it's not hard. Save you a few days here and there waiting on a NQ with a sh*tty chance of dropping.
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#11 Mar 31 2008 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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More than likely, though, I'd end up at a few NQ pops while trying to find out when Kings are due again, anyway. If the item shows up, even though it's just a 10% shot, it's still worth trying, especially since I'm not camping the monster and competing for claim, I'm just camping the LSs that camp the monster. But still, seems like around 80-100 people showing up in Behemoth's Dominion, Dragon's Aery, or Valley of Sorrows would point to a King, I believe? Could just find 'em on search and save myself the effort.
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#12 Mar 31 2008 at 2:02 PM Rating: Excellent
You can take NQ Behemouth and Adamantoise with just a couple people (I've Duo'd/Trio'd The turtle and Trio'd NQ Behemouth). So, one you get the TODs, should you get claim, you might be able to get those.

Fafnir can be taken with a party, but they'll need to know their stuff AND it is the harder of the 3 to claim.

FYI- I went 0/30+ on NQ turtle and 1/4 on Behemoth back in Escape.

If you have friends in an HNM shell, you might be able to donate some KSNM99 Orbs to their shell and trade all the other drops for the opportunity to lot BB items.
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#14 Mar 31 2008 at 2:52 PM Rating: Good
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I think Omega's on his way to a two year old Cookie of History.

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#15 Mar 31 2008 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
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If the item shows up, even though it's just a 10% shot, it's still worth trying,


I have killed many NQ kings. I wish could say the drop rate was 10%.
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#16 Mar 31 2008 at 3:46 PM Rating: Good
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Went with FFXIclopedia's page on that estimate. Seemed like a pretty rational leap. It's not like I've killed an NQ ground god. No linkshell I've ever been in has even claimed one while I've been with them. But still, even a worse rate than KSNM99s is still a drop rate. I don't have a lot of KS to burn yet, still farming them up on a daily basis, so what I get from that's gonna be really limited.
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#17 Apr 01 2008 at 6:53 AM Rating: Decent
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FYI- I went 0/30+ on NQ turtle and 1/4 on Behemoth back in Escape.


That turtle can go to hell really.
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lol I remember that stupid sh*t. All the mages run to the turtle to get a dalmatica.

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lol I remember that stupid sh*t. All the mages run to the turtle to get a dalmatica.



Man, I think that egg NQ wise was rarer then dalmatica ever was during that time.
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#20 Apr 01 2008 at 3:54 PM Rating: Excellent
I don't know about nowadays, but when I camped kings VOS was only crowded when Aspid was due up. No one really gave a damn about Adamntoise but Monks.
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Last time I did any type of end game related thing (November of last year maybe..?) NQ turtle was always empty. Hell, even some HQ times it was empty.

Wonder what it's like now.
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#22 Apr 01 2008 at 9:27 PM Rating: Good
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Jeez, maybe I should run out and try to do Adamantoise solo if his drops are that crap...
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#23 Apr 02 2008 at 1:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jeez, maybe I should run out and try to do Adamantoise solo if his drops are that crap...


Bring Meds. His breath attacks go through Shadows.

(I got him to 60%ish solo. And while it took a good 20 minutes, it was worth it just to make all the people wait for TOD/Claim)
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#24 Apr 02 2008 at 8:10 PM Rating: Good
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Even with a 400+ Chakra and +Subtle Blow on gloves, he'd be outdamaging my rate of recovery? Think a hi-potion tank would do it, or more than that?
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Edited, Apr 3rd 2008 12:16am by Dakren
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#25 Apr 02 2008 at 10:38 PM Rating: Excellent
His breath attacks hit me for 300+. I hit him for 20-40 with meat, & it took me 20 minutes to take off 40%ish of his HP.

He's built to outlast us.
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#26 Apr 02 2008 at 11:07 PM Rating: Good
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; ; Hi-Potion Tank(s) it is, then. But still, thanks for the info. =)
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#27 Apr 03 2008 at 5:05 AM Rating: Good
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Not to sure if ur being serious about trying but its near impossible to pull and claim without adds and i dont think its soloable by anyjob without going into rage mode, tho i might be wrong about that, think rdm can maybe. Just get 2 friends and go after Aspi has popped, near enough a free nq turtle
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#28 Apr 03 2008 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
Killed nq turtle a couple weeks ago with 4 ppl. Nin/drk, Whm, Blm, Thf. Took about 5-10min =)

Edit: We had 2-3 adds as well.

Edited, Apr 3rd 2008 3:38pm by magiusCS
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#29 Apr 03 2008 at 1:43 PM Rating: Excellent
I don't think NQ's rage, but I could be wrong.

I had two Raptor adds during my solo attempt. Hundred Fists took care of em' though.
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Just join a ls that bots like crazy worked for me got my belt in 1 week.
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#32 Apr 03 2008 at 4:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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They rage, just not sure if its an hour or just 30mins
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#33 Apr 04 2008 at 2:10 AM Rating: Good
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If NQ Adamantoise rages, it's probably 30 minutes. From what I remember of the rage update, the weaker the monster, the faster the rage, to ensure that one person can't stall ToD into Japanese primetime, like what used to happen.

Ah, those were the days...
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The rage timer for NQ Kings is definitly 60minutes, I've seen low-man JP groups hold a Fafnir for 20-25min until BLMs show up. One humorous memory of Dragon's Aery involves Giggle & two others from Duckn holding a Fafnir for 25 or so minutes until help arrived. Mrm called a [GM] on them for holding it around ~15minutes into this wait, the funny part came 3 hours later when the [GM] responded asking if the holding in Dragon's Aery had ended. Idk, some might not get the woosh but I thought it was hilarious. >_>

It's something like that Family Guy where Pres. Bush shows up for the Vietnam War too late.

Aaaaanyway, if you need help on anything and my little taru butt isn't in the middle of something feel free to shoot me a tell Dak, i'll drag Bob & Xzerios with me and we'll see what we can do. ^O^)b

edit: It's definitly solo-able too, way back in PI/CnR, Judd did it on his 75NIN many times, even with adds. If you can snag a second person, maybe a good RDM it will be a breeze. Have the RDM just handle the adds if any & debuffs.

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Damnit Oct, you keep referring to me as Bob, I'm going to have to put it in my Sig just so people know who the hell you're talking about XD lol

Anyway, yeah, even one extra person would be a huge help. I'd be glad to come help, anytime. I tanked Adamantoise when I got my egg, and some people on here would call me a sh*tty tank, so I guess, if I can do it...somethingsomething



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#36 Apr 04 2008 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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and some people on here would call me a sh*tty tank, so I guess, if I can do it...somethingsomething


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#37 Apr 04 2008 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent
Me, Leary, & Lhayla trio'd it no problem as MNK, NIN, & BLM. Lhayla slept the raptors, I took the birds that linked (as they're hard to sleep w/out a bard), and we made darkness when we could which Lhayla bursted.

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I was kidding it wasn't that easy I still had to lot against people that part was sheer luck. (plus I show up for every camp for well over a month) Best of luck man you always been cool with me.
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#39 Apr 06 2008 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks, everyone, for the responses. =) Next stop's just to track the bastard down and attempt it. If I can get the egg, that'll put me down to just needing two items. If I could do the same and nab an NQ Behemoth or three for that drop, it'd just reduce me to needing a Wyrm Beard. And even if my drop rate sucks, hey, it's better to at least make some progress towards it than to sit here and just want it. Gonna just start wandering my ass to Valley of Sorrows periodically today and see if I can't find him and try him out.
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#40 Apr 10 2008 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
Duckn charges 3 Mil for their wyrm beards. <.<;
I offered 1 Mil and they let it floor.
#41 Apr 11 2008 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
Pretty sad that they're willing to say no to 1mil...that sucks.
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Pretty sad that they're willing to say no to 1mil...that sucks.


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Sad but true.
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#44 Apr 12 2008 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
I got my black belt!

In Crisis Core >.>
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