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#1 Dec 27 2012 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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it looks as if someone defaulted all my posts in this thread for no reason

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=22&mid=1328146533263431368&p=24#1186

can someone look into it?
10 posts all defaulted but the 2 on the page before are good/decent virtually no difference in the posts no reason to rate em all down

Edited, Dec 27th 2012 10:36pm by FinalFanXIV
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#2 Dec 28 2012 at 9:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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One person rated you down 6 times. They haven't rated you down before or since. A few other people also rated some of your posts in that thread down. I don't know why. But it isn't at the level of karma camping. We'll keep an eye on it, but there isn't anything I will do at this point. Sorry.

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#3 Dec 28 2012 at 9:49 AM Rating: Good
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If I had to guess, I'd say it's how you write your posts. No real attempt to capitalize sentences (or punctuate them, in some cases), as well as the somewhat frequent usage of "lol" amongst other things can draw the ire of many a poster on here.

Edited, Dec 28th 2012 10:56am by Spoonless
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#4 Dec 28 2012 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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Spoonless wrote:
If I had to guess, I'd say it's how you write your posts. No real attempt to capitalize sentences (or punctuate them, in some cases), as well as the somewhat frequent usage of "lol" amongst other things can draw the ire of many a poster on here.

Edited, Dec 28th 2012 10:56am by Spoonless

Many of the posters who complained regarding that give-away thread in the OOT also lurk in the games forum as well. Probably contributed some of it.
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Spoonless wrote:
If I had to guess, I'd say it's how you write your posts. No real attempt to capitalize sentences (or punctuate them, in some cases), as well as the somewhat frequent usage of "lol" amongst other things can draw the ire of many a poster on here.


I don't think I was the first to rate 'em down, but I was definitely the one to knock most 'em down to 'Default'. The above was the reason. Lazy, stream-of-consciousness, run-on sentence, sans-capitalization, "lol"-riddled writing annoys me.

Not a camping thing, I just saw a stream of such posts, and rated accordingly. I've moved on.
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#6 Dec 28 2012 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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I've moved on.
Liar. You go to sleep every night thinking about those posts. Don't deny it!
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#7 Dec 28 2012 at 2:56 PM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
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Liar. You go to sleep every night thinking about those posts. Don't deny it!


...to camping Spoonless.
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#8 Dec 28 2012 at 3:18 PM Rating: Good
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NO! NOW I'LL NEVER BE AN EXCELLENT GURU!

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#9 Dec 28 2012 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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I'd say the youtube link giveaway thread was the real reason. Pretty sure you had one outside the General Game forum that had some negative replies from a few of the lurking regulars. While I don't think I've hit the down arrow on any of them, I can't say I haven't been tempted.

I blame the low post count spammers that post vaguely on topic replies to ongoing threads not in response to any particular post for making people here quick to attack people.
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#10 Dec 28 2012 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
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and yet the ppl i was replying to who were saying the exact same things as me were untouched...

also last i checked this isn't a English 101 forum... meh
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#11 Dec 28 2012 at 9:13 PM Rating: Good
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and yet the ppl i was replying to who were saying the exact same things as me were untouched...

also last i checked this isn't a English 101 forum... meh

Someone rate the above down also, the apathy is annoying.
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#12 Dec 28 2012 at 11:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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FinalFanXIV wrote:
and yet the ppl i was replying to who were saying the exact same things as me were untouched...

also last i checked this isn't a English 101 forum... meh


Well, normally I leave the names out of the whole Karma discussion, but since Eske mentioned he was one of the ones doing the rating, yiou should know for the record that you have now rated him down more than he has rated you down. And at the level of rates we are presently talking, thats fine. If you to want to nuke eachother sub scholar, go for it. Us Administrators are here to prevent gross violations of the karma system (ratebots, persistant one sided karma camping, etc.) We aren't intended to interfere with normal operations. You'll find that most admins very rarely rate anyone at all primarily because of the fact that our rate buttons don't have limiting mechanisms, specifically so we can adjust karma as needed to counter system abuse.

In this particular instance, you have personally given out more red arrows than you have recieved by a two to one margin since December of 2010 overall, not counting the usual various rating sprints on now banned spammers, so overall you are ahead of the game.
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#13 Dec 29 2012 at 1:07 AM Rating: Default
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and how many rate UPs have i givin also yousaid 6 so i did 6 not twice as many dont lie kao...
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Well, normally I leave the names out of the whole Karma discussion, but since Eske mentioned he was one of the ones doing the rating, yiou should know for the record that you have now rated him down more than he has rated you down. And at the level of rates we are presently talking, thats fine. If you to want to nuke eachother sub scholar, go for it.
It should probably be mentioned that a truce would benefit the OP more than Eske, considering current postcounts and karma scores. I wouldn't be surprised if FinalFanXIV hit sub-scholar before Eske even lost Sage, even before the ratings each of them garner from others are taken into account.

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also yousaid 6 so i did 6 not twice as many dont lie kao...

Smiley: facepalm

Edited, Dec 29th 2012 12:12am by Poldaran
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#15 Dec 29 2012 at 2:16 AM Rating: Default
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yes but he has been camping me for like a month this is just the first time i said anything cause it was 10 posts in a row.

And IIRC though i haven't read the rules in a while so they may have changed but the definition of karma camping was "if someone rates all your posts down in a thread that's karma camping"

not those exact words but still of that we'd both be guilty even though he did it first 2 wrongs don't make a right i admit but i cant change my actions i did when i was mad.
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1. Don't talk back to admins. Especially in the feedback foirum. It annoys us.
2. Learn to read. I didn't say you had rated Eske down twice as many times. I said you as a whole, in your entire rate history, have rated twice as many people down overall than you yourself have recieved as rates.
3. I Wrote the rules. My interperitation of them is pretty much automatically accurate.
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#17 Dec 29 2012 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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If someone is purposely seeking you out in order to rate you down without taking the posts into consideration, that's camping. If all of your posts in a thread are poorly written, hard-to-read drivel, well that's justified in my book, as long as each post is considered on its individual merits. How you present yourself to others has a direct effect on how they react to you. This may not be an "English 101" forum, as you said, but it is a community of people who appreciate posts that don't make your eyes bleed as you try to parse what the writer is trying to say. You've run into this before on your other account, tetsuol, I'm sure. You could make the argument that the content of your post should matter more than how it's presented, and maybe you're right. But, if it's harder to glean that content because it's presented poorly, well, people are going to act on the presentation.

Really, it's not that difficult. I'm not saying that you have to run your posts through an MLA Style Guide before you hit the "Post" button, but clear breaks between sentences, a basic grasp of capitalization, and the elimination of "lol" from your forum-posting vocabulary will go a long way.

Protip: On these forums, you can use a Smiley: lol instead of "lol" and nobody will care.

Edited, Dec 29th 2012 9:26am by Spoonless
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#18 Dec 29 2012 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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yes but he has been camping me for like a month


I can assure you that I haven't.

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i cant change my actions i did when i was mad.


By way of penance, you could rate 6 of my posts up. Smiley: grin
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#19 Dec 29 2012 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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@spoon i can hardly read that wall of text but on the subject of tetsuol

Hows about you guys stop charging my credit card for premium to an account i don't even use nor have access to anymore? hmm

Been going on for awhile and cheek the logins.. <- no access

Or better yet refund all the past months of payments you've taken when i no longer even have the registered email thus cant even retrieve the account. . .

BTW thanks spoon for reminding me abt tetsuol otherwise i would of forgot and let them keep taking my money.

Edited, Dec 29th 2012 11:52pm by FinalFanXIV
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#20 Dec 29 2012 at 11:49 PM Rating: Good
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@spoon i can hardly read that wall of text but on the subject of tetsuol
That's barely a curb, much less a wall.

Calm down a bit maybe?
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#21 Dec 30 2012 at 2:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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@spoon i can hardly read that wall of text but on the subject of tetsuol

Hows about you guys stop charging my credit card for premium to an account i don't even use nor have access to anymore? hmm

Been going on for awhile and cheek the logins.. <- no access

Or better yet refund all the past months of payments you've taken when i no longer even have the registered email thus cant even retrieve the account. . .

BTW thanks spoon for reminding me abt tetsuol otherwise i would of forgot and let them keep taking my money.

Edited, Dec 29th 2012 11:52pm by FinalFanXIV


Contact accounts@allakhazam.com and explain the situation. They will be able to cancel the premium membership. They might even be able to refund since you haven't logged into the account, though since you forgetting your password and forgetting your yahoo e-mail password really isn't our problem, maybe not. Perhaps you should try annoying them first and see if that helps.
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#22 Dec 30 2012 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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TIL seven sentences is a "wall of text".
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Friar Bijou wrote:
FinalFanXIV wrote:
@spoon i can hardly read that wall of text but on the subject of tetsuol
That's barely a curb, much less a wall.

Calm down a bit maybe?


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TIL seven sentences is a "wall of text".

If his posting ability is any indication, his reading ability is about at the level that seven sentences *is* a wall of text. He should try reading Gbaji sometime...
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#24 Dec 31 2012 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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i prefer gadsby
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#25 Jan 01 2013 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
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FinalFanXIV wrote:
@spoon i can hardly read that wall of text


Time to buy a monitor that supports 800x600, I suppose.
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