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#1 Nov 04 2011 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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An example: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=encroaching+darkness#Wiki

Only shows EQ:AA_Costs_Q page, but none of the others that list Encroaching Darkness. Also, EQ:AA_Costs_E#Encroaching_Darkness you'd think would make EQ:AA_Costs_E page be on the list, if not near the top.

There any fix for this, or any suggestions on changing the wiki pages to make them show up in the search?

Yther Ore.

Edited, Nov 5th 2011 12:49am by Yther
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#2 Nov 04 2011 at 9:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't recall off-hand what the wiki search indexer indexes (as in title only, title + first part of body, whole body, etc.) so I'll have to look into that.

If the pages are brand new, give 'em some time to show up in the search. If they don't in 12 hours or so, post in here with a link to the article; the indexer likely got mad and quit working for some reason. Easily fixed, though, when that happens (though usually we catch it pretty quickly)
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#3 Nov 04 2011 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/EQ:AA_Costs_E It's an old page, last edited: 2010-07-15 20:03:47.

Thanks for looking into it.

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#4 Nov 04 2011 at 10:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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not a problem. Remind me Tuesday-ish if I don't have an answer (just post in this thread; it'll notify me). Doing a lot of forum moves right now, have a big Rift change to make (actually a few, but only one before the test stuff goes live this round,) and have both an EQ and EQ2 expansion incoming, so I am a little prone to forget, not sleep :)
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#5 Nov 04 2011 at 10:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I understand (the lack of sleep affecting memory). :)

Someone in the EQ forum was wondering if links to the wiki pages, could be added to the spell pages. For example: the spell page at http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=16106 (Encroaching Darkness) could have a link to http://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/EQ:AA_Costs_E#Encroaching_Darkness or something similar? I have an online spreadsheet of the AA info at http://www.editgrid.com/user/yther_ore/Alternative_Advancement that is not complete, but maybe could be used if I add in the spell IDs for the activated AAs to be added to your database and reverse looked up and just show the info on the spell pages, or something like that?

Just a few ideas, that have been suggested.

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#6 Nov 04 2011 at 10:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Eh, probably not. Well, not programatically at least. You might check with the CMs and see if they have a solution. I'll try and re-visit that at some point.
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#7 Nov 08 2011 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Tuesday reminder :)

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#8 Nov 08 2011 at 6:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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I just bounced the wiki indexer. Lessee if that helps.
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#9 Nov 14 2011 at 1:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Well it seemed to get a few more pages, but none of the EQ:AA_Costs_? ones other than Q which it already got. I think the wiki indexer ignores the internal anchors, so I assume, I'll just have to add the anchor names again, without the anchor to get them indexed?

Thanks.

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#10 Nov 14 2011 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not sure off-hand. Got way too busy to look more into this for the time being; sorry.
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#11 Dec 19 2011 at 12:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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#12 Dec 19 2011 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for remembering. I started to fix the old pages before I got side-tracked on the individual AA pages, by duplication the the header / in-page links to just plain text (i.e.

===6000===
==Harm Touch==

to

===6000===
==Harm Touch== Harm Touch 6000

and those items on those pages started showing the page on searches for the items. It wasn't a great fix, but figured it would do until the headers would be included in the search.

Again, thanks!

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The original problem is not so big with the new individual AA pages, but still something you might want to look into (searching anchors). However, the ranking doesn't seem real good for some searches I've done. Example: Petrified Roots link:http://everquest.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Petrified+Roots shows a root-rotting page as 100, and two AAs, Viscid Roots which mentions Petrified roots as an alternate name, and Hastened Roots which doesn't say petrified in it either both at 95 rank.

Just thought something I should mention, for whenever you work on the search engine.

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#14 Jan 26 2012 at 2:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, that's actually on the to-do list; just need a few more hours in the day to get to all of it, heh.
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