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#252 Jun 30 2011 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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If you really want to train for admin so badly, you'll do what I did, and buy a Shake-weight in the form of a ring.
OK, I'm totally wooshed there. Smiley: confused
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#255 Jun 30 2011 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
I know about shake weights and how are very hand job-ish, but ring form?
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Something that was brought to my attention here, but could the Job forums be added to the list of links in the breadcrumbs for the games that have specific job forums? Obviously not all the forums themselves, but the generic gateway like this?

All categories as well as subcategories (such as the Jobs, Servers, and Races subcategories) are listed under the second section of the path. (that is, the area which in this thread says "Cross Site") At some point that will likely be made more intuitive by putting subcategories in the next area over from their parent categories.
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Alright, I'll throw it in here because it only started with the new layout.


A very strange glitch happens when I use the 'link' button in Google Chrome.

So I've decided to demonstrate in video.

Only tried in Chrome (I can't be assed to install whatever version Firefox is up to now, and IE is forever purged), but you can clearly see what happens when I use the 'link' button.

Short version is, when you use the 'Link' button, as soon as you enter a URL and click OK press Enter to finish Chrome will jump to the forum index. My posts are retained when I go back, it's just a very strange behavior.

Ah, looking back on the video and a little testing just now, it's not when you click 'Ok' but if you press enter to finish the URL entry.

Edited, Jun 30th 2011 4:09pm by Raelix
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With the breadcrumbs at the top and bottom, why is it that they're listed in a different order than they appear in the actual dropdown menu? It bothers me in an OCD sort of way.
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Will the karma changes affect posts from before the changes? e.g. will the post that are currently default be changed to decent if they weren't rated down enough by the soon to be changes?
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Will the karma changes affect posts from before the changes? e.g. will the post that are currently default be changed to decent if they weren't rated down enough by the soon to be changes?


No. A posts rating is initially formed by your karma score at the time you made the post, and then changes as it is rated, changes to your karma score in the future, will no effect the rating for that post. The ratings you get on that post will affect you karma score, and thus your base rating for future posts.

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Will the karma changes affect posts from before the changes? e.g. will the post that are currently default be changed to decent if they weren't rated down enough by the soon to be changes?


No. A posts rating is initially formed by your karma score at the time you made the post, and then changes as it is rated, changes to your karma score in the future, will no effect the rating for that post. The ratings you get on that post will affect you karma score, and thus your base rating for future posts.

Edited, Jul 1st 2011 7:55am by Lubriderm


This is correct. it will only affect posts going forwards.
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I still hate the scholar/sage/guru colors as they don't appear much with the background from the FFXI, same for the little kinda bubbles for new threads and such. Maybe keep the color scheme but make them a few shades lighter? The blue and green are really hard to see easily.
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#265 Jul 01 2011 at 6:20 PM Rating: Good
Hey, I just noticed the bottom breadcrumbs1 now give a drop menu. Looks and works good, Smiley: thumbsup


1: Breadcrumbs?! Did I use that term right?
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Why do you spam click? It's not like it makes them go any faster, and moving the button maintains a better look for the window.


It's a habit from dial up/not-fios-dsl. Since it's not something that causes the page to actually load I don't know if it went through or not until anything actually happens. Therefore I'm going to click multiple times after a simple one click seemingly does nothing.

This was the source of some of my double, triple, and 26le posts back in ye olde days.

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When I tried editing the title of a thread it told me something about detecting a duplicate post recently. Don't know if thats with the new format or not but I thought I would put it out there.

Edit: Update- After waiting a bit it let me edit the title finally. It also just took a bit for the edited title to show up.

Edited, Jul 2nd 2011 5:58am by CaptinXeith

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I really like nearly everything about the new set-up. I do have a few minor gripes, and what I think is a HUGE complaint. Minor first:

*Posting location. Put it back.
*First unread post arrow on the forum screen. It was really nice to be able to jump right back into a thread without wading through the crap you already read.
*Put back the thread index link in some capacity. I realize you can click the forum in the bottom left hand corner, but that's just obnoxious.


Fix the mobile version. It now reads the exact same as if I visit the non-mobile version. I realize that changes like this take time blah blah blah, but if it isn't ready to implement, it shouldn't be implemented (including the mobile version). This is not a small gripe either. I use this site mostly only on the mobile version now and you completely broke it. This didn't have to happen immediately. This wasn't making or breaking the site. It has been a huge turnoff to use and I find myself using the site even less than before now due to the utter distaste I have for browsing forums on non-mobile style sites.

If it has already been announced in some way that these are being fixed, I'm sorry. I didn't read the entire thread.

Edit: Should really move "Recent Visitors" back to the top. It makes no sense at the bottom.

Edited, Jul 2nd 2011 7:05am by Paskil
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Paskil, there was an issue with the mobile skin where the sizing was broken. Jerek said they changed it to where it is now as a temporary workaround while they get the m.zam skin fixed properly. They are aware of the issues with it. I'm not sure how it is now since my Premium ran out, but that's where it stood the other day.
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*Put back the thread index link in some capacity. I realize you can click the forum in the bottom left hand corner, but that's just obnoxious.

I keep seeing people say this, and I don't see the issue here at all. Having the thread index link was redundant. Is it really that hard to move your mouse halfway across the screen to click a different link instead?
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*Put back the thread index link in some capacity. I realize you can click the forum in the bottom left hand corner, but that's just obnoxious.

I keep seeing people say this, and I don't see the issue here at all. Having the thread index link was redundant. Is it really that hard to move your mouse halfway across the screen to click a different link instead?


I don't really understand where the idea came in that redundancy is bad. ****, this is a site for MMO players. We supposedly thrive on it. Also, yeah I figured the mobile was being worked on. It's just annoying that at the moment, there is no difference with or without it.
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Personally, I prefer a clean, semi-minimalist look free of redundancy, particularly when the alternative isn't all that stressful or difficult to access.
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A Thread Index button next to the Reply to Thread and Quick Reply buttons would be nice, but whatever. It's not a big deal either way.

Or, an index link next to the ^ Page top on every post so I can be even more lazy!

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A Thread Index button next to the Reply to Thread and Quick Reply buttons would be nice, but whatever. It's not a big deal either way.

Or, an index link next to the ^ Page top on every post so I can be even more lazy!

Edited, Jul 2nd 2011 3:29pm by Spoonless
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Can you make it so that the "no pop up" option works to stop the stupid, useless pop up on the "breadcrumb trail"?
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A very strange glitch happens when I use the 'link' button in Google Chrome.

So I've decided to demonstrate in video.

Fixed. Thanks for the detailed report.

Majivo wrote:
With the breadcrumbs at the top and bottom, why is it that they're listed in a different order than they appear in the actual dropdown menu? It bothers me in an OCD sort of way.

Hm, compared to what menu? Which site are you using?

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When I tried editing the title of a thread it told me something about detecting a duplicate post recently. Don't know if thats with the new format or not but I thought I would put it out there.

Edit: Update- After waiting a bit it let me edit the title finally. It also just took a bit for the edited title to show up.

We'll look in to this.

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*First unread post arrow on the forum screen. It was really nice to be able to jump right back into a thread without wading through the crap you already read.

This still exists in both the forum root (/forum.html) and forum view/thread list pages (/forum.html?cat=#).

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Fix the mobile version. It now reads the exact same as if I visit the non-mobile version.

What do you mean by this? How did it differ before that it does not now?

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Can you make it so that the "no pop up" option works to stop the stupid, useless pop up on the "breadcrumb trail"?

If we add an option to disable dropdowns from the paths/breadcrumbs it will be as it's own option.
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I still hate the scholar/sage/guru colors as they don't appear much with the background from the FFXI, same for the little kinda bubbles for new threads and such. Maybe keep the color scheme but make them a few shades lighter? The blue and green are really hard to see easily.

You mean that these don't stand out significantly against their background colors? In regards to buttons do you mean the buttons inside posts, out of posts, both?
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Way to sneak that Followed Threads link in the Forum drop down. Spent a good three minutes trying to figure out why the Live View was empty. Smiley: mad
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So what's the dealio with pictures then? Was the intent ever that the proletariat could upload and access their own photos? Or is that that I can just slap in an IMG tag using some premium user's stable of pix? And why is "pix" in Firefox's spellchecker?

If the idea wasn't to let non-premium users upload and use their own photos, then why have a minimum number of posts before you can use the tag? It's the premium guy who has to upload llama **** and face the consequences.

Sorry if this was addressed upthread; the last I heard it was "we're talking about it" and I haven't followed the thread religiously since then.

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I still hate the scholar/sage/guru colors as they don't appear much with the background from the FFXI, same for the little kinda bubbles for new threads and such. Maybe keep the color scheme but make them a few shades lighter? The blue and green are really hard to see easily.

You mean that these don't stand out significantly against their background colors? In regards to buttons do you mean the buttons inside posts, out of posts, both?
Yes for the titles against the background colors in FFXI, they don't stand out at all. And for the buttons, it's those balloon shaped bubbles in the thread "index". The colors really don't stand out on that skin. Is it possible to lighten the colors up, maybe make them a few shades brighter so you don't mess your color scheme but at least make them stand out?
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Yeah, they don't really stand out as much as other skins tend to.
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I don't see the issue with the balloons though. They seem to be bright enough when you haven't viewed a thread yet.

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So what's the dealio with pictures then? Was the intent ever that the proletariat could upload and access their own photos? Or is that that I can just slap in an IMG tag using some premium user's stable of pix? And why is "pix" in Firefox's spellchecker?

If the idea wasn't to let non-premium users upload and use their own photos, then why have a minimum number of posts before you can use the tag? It's the premium guy who has to upload llama **** and face the consequences.

Sorry if this was addressed upthread; the last I heard it was "we're talking about it" and I haven't followed the thread religiously since then.

Edited, Jul 6th 2011 11:38am by Jophiel


It's still under discussion. If it ends up being that non premium uploading of pictures is completely disabled, the minimum posts before using image tags will be reduced to 25 posts to match polls or eliminated entirely.

the llama **** issue was the main reason for implementing the 250 limit in the first place, however since that time there has been some rethink regarding file storage costs for images, etc. We'll let everyone know what gets decided in the end.
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The quote checkboxes now work in Quick Reply and on comment pages. When you have at least one quote checkbox checked on a page it will add a link in the posting area titled "Quote Checked".

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This was also done earlier.
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Jophiel wrote:
So what's the dealio with pictures then? Was the intent ever that the proletariat could upload and access their own photos? Or is that that I can just slap in an IMG tag using some premium user's stable of pix? And why is "pix" in Firefox's spellchecker?

If the idea wasn't to let non-premium users upload and use their own photos, then why have a minimum number of posts before you can use the tag? It's the premium guy who has to upload llama **** and face the consequences.

Sorry if this was addressed upthread; the last I heard it was "we're talking about it" and I haven't followed the thread religiously since then.

Edited, Jul 6th 2011 11:38am by Jophiel


It's still under discussion. If it ends up being that non premium uploading of pictures is completely disabled, the minimum posts before using image tags will be reduced to 25 posts to match polls or eliminated entirely.

the llama **** issue was the main reason for implementing the 250 limit in the first place, however since that time there has been some rethink regarding file storage costs for images, etc. We'll let everyone know what gets decided in the end.

How about just for Joph and me? We're good peoples. sort of
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I've made some adjustments to the FFXI forum styling. Things should be a bit clearer now.
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OUt of curiosity, what's the reasoning behind forcing users to upload an image? Why not just have image tags work with a URL?
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I've made some adjustments to the FFXI forum styling. Things should be a bit clearer now.
You did?

You may need to do a hard refresh (Ctrl+F5) to see the updated styles, as I didn't force a style refresh for this change. The Guru color and buttons on posts should be the most noticeable changes.
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OUt of curiosity, what's the reasoning behind forcing users to upload an image? Why not just have image tags work with a URL?


One of those actually exists for admins. The reason we don't open that up to users as well is mainly because some websites have a nasty little habit of punishing hotlinking users by switching their image for a really offensive one for any links that leave their site. By forcing upload to here, we can garuntee the images are viewable by people, and ensure that we have a measure of protection in place if someone decides to upload something really offensive. There is historical precident on this site for that very scenario.
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Now that its been a while, can we bring back the ratings to the pages instead of just on the posts and the mouse over? Sub-D threads are some of the funnest threads to read and contribute to, but there being no indicator makes it annoying to mouse over every thread just to find something to read.
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I've made some adjustments to the FFXI forum styling. Things should be a bit clearer now.
You did?

You may need to do a hard refresh (Ctrl+F5) to see the updated styles, as I didn't force a style refresh for this change. The Guru color and buttons on posts should be the most noticeable changes.
I did it a few times and didn't notice any change... <.<
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Live View used to show how many new posts were made while you were in different tabs or the focus wasn't on the page itself, and now it doesn't.
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Duke Ikkian wrote:
JerekDain wrote:
You may need to do a hard refresh (Ctrl+F5) to see the updated styles, as I didn't force a style refresh for this change. The Guru color and buttons on posts should be the most noticeable changes.
I did it a few times and didn't notice any change... <.<

Well, I intentionally made subtle changes. The colors should remain essentially the same, and any changes should be relatively minor, aside from the buttons on posts. Perhaps your monitor settings are a bit off?

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Fixed.
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Every once in a great while when I click the "goto the newest post" arrow, it doesn't go to the most recent post. It goes to a few posts above it. I'm using IE 9.

Also, if you type words and highlight them, then click the "Link" button to make them a hyper link, it erases the words you had written down and replaces them with the full URL.

Like so:

This (where I've got "Oh HAI Google" higlighted before I hit the link button):

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Turns into this:

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