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Are we no longer allowed to rate posts in the site feedback forum?
No.
It was heavily abused and served no purpose on this forum. I've been meaning to remove it for a while. Recent events have caused me to finally do it.
It is not the purpose of karma to allow people to downrate posts when they simply disagree with them when the post itself is well thought out and formed. Especially on this forum where we want to encourage users to give us their feedback without fear of reprisal from some group of users with a mob mentality.
Admins maintain their ability to rate posts on this forum. I routinely rate up people who give clear, concise and useful feedback. Even if I strongly disagree with it. Except Rog.
It was heavily abused and served no purpose on this forum. I've been meaning to remove it for a while. Recent events have caused me to finally do it.
It is not the purpose of karma to allow people to downrate posts when they simply disagree with them when the post itself is well thought out and formed. Especially on this forum where we want to encourage users to give us their feedback without fear of reprisal from some group of users with a mob mentality.
Admins maintain their ability to rate posts on this forum. I routinely rate up people who give clear, concise and useful feedback. Even if I strongly disagree with it. Except Rog.
I'd be guru by now if you rated all my feedback posts up 
Also, you should definitely leave the option to rate up, and just remove the rate down option.
Edited, Nov 30th 2010 2:27pm by ThePsychoticOne
Also, you should definitely leave the option to rate up, and just remove the rate down option.
Edited, Nov 30th 2010 2:27pm by ThePsychoticOne
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Also, you should definitely leave the option to rate up, and just remove the rate down option.
This.
I see your point, but if someone posts a suggestion, it would be nice to be able to rate it up to show support instead of making a needless post saying, "Yeah, do it!"
But thanks for the heads up, nonetheless! I was a little worried my computer was going bonkers.
Edited, Nov 30th 2010 1:30pm by Belkira
Should just have Like/Dislike buttons that show how many people like or dislike an idea, with no effect on karma.
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Should just have Like/Dislike buttons that show how many people like or dislike an idea, with no effect on karma.
Even better.
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Should just have Like/Dislike buttons that show how many people like or dislike an idea, with no effect on karma.
Kirby, Star Breaker wrote:
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Should just have Like/Dislike buttons that show how many people like or dislike an idea, with no effect on karma.
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Nizdaar wrote:
It is not the purpose of karma to allow people to downrate posts when they simply disagree with them when the post itself is well thought out and formed.
Have you seen the rest of the site?
Karma is broken and has been since ever. It serves no real purpose anymore. Bad posts get reported and removed. Sub-default posts are read anyway, because most people have the filter set to Never. Rating others up and down is only used to voice agreement and disagreement. And with enough posts, it doesn't matter what people rate you.
I'm not saying it should go, but the problem you saw on this forum is also a problem everywhere else.
Edited, Nov 30th 2010 10:28pm by Mazra
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Mazra wrote:
Nizdaar wrote:
It is not the purpose of karma to allow people to downrate posts when they simply disagree with them when the post itself is well thought out and formed.
Have you seen the rest of the site?
Karma is broken and has been since ever. It serves no real purpose anymore. Bad posts get reported and removed. Sub-default posts are read anyway, because most people have the filter set to Never. Rating others up and down is only used to voice agreement and disagreement. And with enough posts, it doesn't matter what people rate you.
I'm not saying it should go, but the problem you saw on this forum is also a problem everywhere else.
Edited, Nov 30th 2010 10:28pm by Mazra
We're aware and have been discussing what to do about it. forum=3 is a different forum than most though so it was safe for me to remove the ability to rate from it without notice.
Nizdaar wrote:
We're aware and have been discussing what to do about it. forum=3 is a different forum than most though so it was safe for me to remove the ability to rate from it without notice.
I posted some of this in the thread in =10, but I figured it was relevant here as well:
There's a vBulliten-based board that I frequent that uses a reputations system. You can only dole out so much rep per 24 hours. You have to spread it around before you can give rep to the same poster again, and negative rep is reserved basically for flagrant abuse of board rules. Basically, those who make the most knowledgeable posts or what have you end up with a lot of positive rep, but those who aren't popular or whatever aren't penalized by having people bomb them with negative rep. They just don't get rated very often.
The other thing about the vBulliten rep system the other board uses is that you see who gave you rep in your User CP. When you take the anonymity out of the equation, people are generally less downrate happy. Also, while positive rep does not require a comment to be given out, negative rep does require you to put a comment in there or it won't go through. Basically, you have to justify your reasoning.
Combine this with some Like/Dislike buttons on individual posts that don't affect the posters' rep so people can continue to anonymously voice their agreement or displeasure with a post (because people do like to be able to say "I hate this" with a single click), and add in a thread rating system where you can rate the thread overall on a 5-star scale.
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Also, while positive rep does not require a comment to be given out, negative rep does require you to put a comment in there or it won't go through. Basically, you have to justify your reasoning.
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Also, while positive rep does not require a comment to be given out, negative rep does require you to put a comment in there or it won't go through. Basically, you have to justify your reasoning.
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Also, while positive rep does not require a comment to be given out, negative rep does require you to put a comment in there or it won't go through. Basically, you have to justify your reasoning.
So you guys want to go the way of Facebook?
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1 person likes this. 
Does it really matter in the end? As long as people have the opportunity to voice their disagreement with another person through some sort of penalty system, however small that penalty might be, they're going to use and abuse it. In some forums, the same goes for positive ratings.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
I rated Nizdaar up! 
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Also, while positive rep does not require a comment to be given out, negative rep does require you to put a comment in there or it won't go through. Basically, you have to justify your reasoning.
Or you could just not have a negative reputation option. Just have the Report Post button, and if something is so flagrant it deserves negative rep, the admins can impose it when they nuke the post.
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Also, while positive rep does not require a comment to be given out, negative rep does require you to put a comment in there or it won't go through. Basically, you have to justify your reasoning.
Or you could just not have a negative reputation option. Just have the Report Post button, and if something is so flagrant it deserves negative rep, the admins can impose it when they nuke the post.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Also, you should definitely leave the option to rate up, and just remove the rate down option.
This.
I see your point, but if someone posts a suggestion, it would be nice to be able to rate it up to show support instead of making a needless post saying, "Yeah, do it!"
But thanks for the heads up, nonetheless! I was a little worried my computer was going bonkers.
Edited, Nov 30th 2010 1:30pm by Belkira
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Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
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Reiterpallasch wrote:
Glitterhands wrote:
Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O
Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
Lady Jinte wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Also, you should definitely leave the option to rate up, and just remove the rate down option.
This.
I see your point, but if someone posts a suggestion, it would be nice to be able to rate it up to show support instead of making a needless post saying, "Yeah, do it!"
But thanks for the heads up, nonetheless! I was a little worried my computer was going bonkers.
Edited, Nov 30th 2010 1:30pm by Belkira
Might as well just make it spin so you can play russian roulette with people's karma.
Yeah - there's been some heavy discussion about it recently, and in general (as you've probably noticed) a lot of discussion on how to make things better without taking away what made Alla/ZAM unique.
Uglysasquatch wrote:
So you guys want to go the way of Facebook?
Mazra wrote:
1 person likes this.Sure, why not?
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
So you guys want to go the way of Facebook?
Mazra wrote:
1 person likes this.Sure, why not?
Because Nizdaar hates all things social networking.
Nizdaar wrote:
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
So you guys want to go the way of Facebook?
Mazra wrote:
1 person likes this.Sure, why not?
Because Nizdaar hates all things social networking.
well, you could always go the route of:
"1 Person Agrees with this post"
"87 People Disagree with this post"
"9 People Because Purple"
Theytak, Siren Server, FFXI [Retired]
Amerida Baker, Balmung Server, FFXIV
LOLGAXE IS MY ETERNAL RIVAL!
Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
Amerida Baker, Balmung Server, FFXIV
LOLGAXE IS MY ETERNAL RIVAL!
Reiterpallasch wrote:
Glitterhands wrote:
Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O
Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
Nizdaar wrote:
Spoonless of the Seven Seas wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
So you guys want to go the way of Facebook?
Mazra wrote:
1 person likes this.Sure, why not?
Because Nizdaar hates all things social networking.
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