Why no PvP thread category - An open letter (was forum=21)Follow

This rumor has been substantiated via RealID chat whereby he logged on and proceeded to vent to me for a certain amount of time that we will call "over 15 minutes, but under an hour".

Also, I would be more than willing to write FAQs and guides for any PvP forum.

I give my seal of approval to this thread.

The only thing I realy care about in wow is pvp anyway. Would be nice to bring all pvpers together to sharwe our thoughts.

A PvP forum would be a welcome addition as many aspects of PvP touch on many classes at once or are of a general nature.

Having a central location to discuss PvP issues with creating a giant tangential thread would be a great way to get more traffic to the site. More traffic means more hookers n blow money money to spend on Alla, which is a good thing.

My journal gets really no traffic, but I think that's more because it was only really ever in my sig, not up on the main header.

Back when I was posting more and we had more of a following, it was getting multiple threads a day, which is more than we can say about some of the class forums around here.

On one side, I reckon there's no direct huge 'need' for a PvP forum - we've always done pretty fine without. On the other hand, we've got a Trade Skill forum. Heck, not even Professions, Mounts, Pets and Achievements or something, JUST Trade Skills. As long as that board remains, yeah, I'll vouch for a PvP forum.

All of the forums (esp. class forums) are mellow due to the traditional slowing of interest in the game late in expansion. So current activity isn't really a yardstick that we would use to quantify possible traffic/interest. Zam would need to look at a longer historical, quantified analysis of the number of PvP-centric threads posted over the last year or something to gauge past interest. After all, adding a forum is cost and energy. They need to justify the business expense.

The idea that "we've done fine without it" is fine but I have to ask why? Why have we done fine without a dedicated forum? Is it because PvP-interested visitors don't come here at all or do those visitors come here, find no forum and continue looking elsewhere? Chicken-egg anyone?

From my perspective, Zam has a great posting community of players ranging from mellow weekend solo'ers to hardcore raider/arena players. Having a place for those of us with varying degrees of interest in PvP to share ideas/tricks/tactics/warstories could be an excellent addition not just for community building but also for informational purposes. The first thread that brought me here was the Rogue FAQ. If we had "AV 101" or "How to Organize Your 3s Team" threads, who knows what new traffic, and new posters, the Zam site might get?

Again, thank you all for your thoughts.

Frankly, the main reason I'd like to see a PvP forum is because the only other real option for PvP-related advice is Arena Junkies.

As pretty much anyone that's ever read AJ can tell you, it would be better to just figure things out for yourself than to try and deal with how egotistical and idiotic the regular posters there tend to be.

It's pretty much a forum filled with posters exactly like me at my worst (hell, they're probably worse than me at my worst).

Because the tradeskill forum is so busy?
Or the hunter, shaman and whatever other classforum you want is so busy.
Theo's journal was more active when he posted more than most, if not all, the class forums and that's without the link being clearly visible to everyone whenever they're on the WoW part of ZAM.

Now get to work, damnit!




I hereby doubt that a PvP forum will happen, we've asked for it multiple times before and that's why I'm giving my support here but someone seems to want to not make the forum unless it's as active as the general forum or something. Also, AJ is a pile of sh*t.

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 10:07am by Aethien

These are two of the best examples so far of why it is a good idea.

yeah, yeah, I got a ticket put up.

Just to add in one other point of view on it. I basically never PvP. Like, ever. I generally enjoy it, but I also have no clue what I am doing for way too much of the time. I get the mechanics of most BGs, and know THOSE strategies. But I have no clue how to play the two new ones, never having really done them at all.

A PvP forum would actually be great for someone like me, because it would allow me to easily research/ask questions regarding it.

Besides, right now it is really awkward to use the class forums. Generally, someone comes to them saying "I am in a <insert team> and we can't beat <insert class/team>. Halp!"

Which is fine, but it is really hard to address those, since you can't expect them to know anything about the other class on your team. Some posters know, of course. But many more are only aware of how they should act for their own class.

But if the PvP forums were fostered, it could potentially lead to certain aspects about PvP being better understood and so class limitations might dissipate some. It would even make it more likely for the enemy class players to tell you what they have the most difficulty with.

I'm all for a PvP forum.

I know how we can increase activity in a new PvP forum, if one is being created. Make a new contest there!



Edited, Sep 9th 2010 10:25pm by Mazra

Pvp forum will become the Goldshire of ZAM, a lots of smart *** and epeen duel contest without real Gladiator. Half the threads will be sub-D.