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#102 Dec 06 2010 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
The cancel button for links is still borked for pms.

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The default journal name is currently just blank.

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fcluster/gotopost.pl mouseovers don't work for searches or bookmarks.

These are fixed.
#103 Dec 07 2010 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
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The reply/edit links always point to page 1 for posts that are hidden because of rating or ignore list.
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#104 Dec 07 2010 at 11:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Happens if a new post comes up while mousing over another. It doesn't go away until you mouseover something else.
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#105 Dec 08 2010 at 1:11 PM Rating: Good
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JerekDain wrote:
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The search box is white now on all skins. Intended?

Also the size problem with letters like q, g, etc is back.

The white is intended, though it breaking the letter fix is not. Re-fixed.


Why is the search box so big? I get that it's the same height as the mouse-over menu below, but both are abnormally large compared to the text in them. Perhaps reduce the height a little, or bold the text (in the WoW classic menu as well) to fill out the space.

I guess it's not really a bug, just a nuisance.
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Grand Master Alchemist Mazra wrote:
JerekDain wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
The search box is white now on all skins. Intended?

Also the size problem with letters like q, g, etc is back.

The white is intended, though it breaking the letter fix is not. Re-fixed.


Why is the search box so big? I get that it's the same height as the mouse-over menu below, but both are abnormally large compared to the text in them. Perhaps reduce the height a little, or bold the text (in the WoW classic menu as well) to fill out the space.

I guess it's not really a bug, just a nuisance.


You'd be surprised how many emails and PMs we've received asking why we don't have a search box on our sites. Sounds silly, I know.
#107 Dec 08 2010 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
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If a post with a poll in it is hidden by filter/etc,the show results link is broken, by pointing to /mid=x;style=mform&viewpoll=1.

Edited, Dec 8th 2010 9:01pm by ThePsychoticOne
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Nizdaar wrote:
You'd be surprised how many emails and PMs we've received asking why we don't have a search box on our sites. Sounds silly, I know.


Smiley: lol

You should try 'remove-on-click' text in the search field that says 'Search...' or something. Or chalk it up to people being idiots.

Just don't dumb down the site too much. The dumb just get dumber and the smart get irritated. Smiley: tongue

Sorry for the derail, the thread is yours again, TPO.
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Grand Master Alchemist Mazra wrote:
Sorry for the derail, the thread is yours again, TPO.
It's not possible to derail this thread.
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Grand Master Alchemist Mazra wrote:
Nizdaar wrote:
You'd be surprised how many emails and PMs we've received asking why we don't have a search box on our sites. Sounds silly, I know.


Smiley: lol

You should try 'remove-on-click' text in the search field that says 'Search...' or something. Or chalk it up to people being idiots.

Just don't dumb down the site too much. The dumb just get dumber and the smart get irritated. Smiley: tongue

Sorry for the derail, the thread is yours again, TPO.


We did that for a while. Didn't work.
#111 Dec 09 2010 at 10:05 AM Rating: Good
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Grand Master Alchemist Mazra wrote:
Sorry for the derail, the thread is yours again, TPO.
It's not possible to derail this thread.


I'm fairly certain I could, but I won't because it's a good thread.

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We did that for a while. Didn't work.


Can't make a site fool-proof. You could try by moving the search bar somewhere more visible. I'm guessing most of the "wer r serch?" mails come from people who aren't long-time users and thus are probably referring to the main page of the site. In which case I don't blame them. I'm on the classic WoW skin so the white bar stands out, but the default skin is very heavy on the white.

1st solution: Change the main page's layout to one similar to Wowhead.

2nd solution: Widen the text frame on the main page (it's very, very slim) and put the search bar on the menu bar to the right. Like Wowhead has on every page that isn't their main page.

Latter one probably won't work, because Wowhead is also very dark so the white still stands out. In any case, you should widen the text frame on the default skin. I know it's hot to have a lot of wasted space on each side of the text frame, but with the amount of widescreen monitors on the market and the resolutions we run, it looks sillystupid.

On a 24" monitor, running 1960x1200, the default skin is only using 50% of the page width. What's the reasoning behind this? Expect people to view the site in windowed mode on a laptop or something?
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#112 Dec 09 2010 at 4:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
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Happens if a new post comes up while mousing over another. It doesn't go away until you mouseover something else.

Fixed. And made tickets for the other issues you posted about since my last post in here.
#113 Dec 09 2010 at 11:10 PM Rating: Decent
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The PM preview won't show images. Also, the "your signature" thing is a bit silly, though not a bug.

Also, the PM notification also shows up if you get a pm from someone on your ignore list.

Also, also, can you add the smiley drop down to PMs?

Edited, Dec 10th 2010 12:10am by ThePsychoticOne
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#114 Dec 10 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
The PM preview won't show images. Also, the "your signature" thing is a bit silly, though not a bug.

Also, the PM notification also shows up if you get a pm from someone on your ignore list.

Also, also, can you add the smiley drop down to PMs?

The PM system is in need of updates in general to clean it up and make it more in line with forums. We should be getting to that fairly soon, and I made a ticket for that ignore bug.
#115 Dec 10 2010 at 6:07 PM Rating: Good
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All the symbols have disappeared :(.

edit: WoW skin, Firefox.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/Vataro/nosymbols.jpg

Edited, Dec 10th 2010 6:10pm by Vataro
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I still have them. Maybe you have a bad cache.
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There's no way to delete sent pms.
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Grand Master Alchemist Mazra wrote:

On a 24" monitor, running 1960x1200, the default skin is only using 50% of the page width. What's the reasoning behind this? Expect people to view the site in windowed mode on a laptop or something?


Last I checked, an overwhelming majority of our pageviews come at 1024x768 still.
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#119 Dec 11 2010 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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acprog wrote:
Grand Master Alchemist Mazra wrote:
On a 24" monitor, running 1960x1200, the default skin is only using 50% of the page width. What's the reasoning behind this? Expect people to view the site in windowed mode on a laptop or something?


Last I checked, an overwhelming majority of our pageviews come at 1024x768 still.
Which is why you use a % width instead of a fixed width. Which you do. However you also put a limit on the width, which makes absolutely no sense. It doesn't do anything for people using such small resolutions, as they don't reach the cap, and for people using larger monitors, all it does is gives a huge like xbox amount of empty space on the sides.

Removing
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#wrapper, #header {margin:0 auto;max-width:1200px;min-width:974px;position:relative;width:95%;_width:expression(document.body.clientWidth > 1263 ? '1200px' : '95%')}


from http://common.zam.com/c/global.css is all you need to do to fix it. Not sure why that was ever added in there to begin with.
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#120 Dec 12 2010 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Is the linked name on image pages (such as this) supposed to point to their journal?
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#121 Dec 13 2010 at 10:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Which is why you use a % width instead of a fixed width. Which you do. However you also put a limit on the width, which makes absolutely no sense. It doesn't do anything for people using such small resolutions, as they don't reach the cap, and for people using larger monitors, all it does is gives a huge like xbox amount of empty space on the sides.

Setting a max width for the content area is to keep content from spreading out oddly on large resolutions, and gives us more freedom in designing and laying out content to look good without worrying about how it changes at 2000px wide and higher. Having no cap can cause things like paragraphs filling a page width but only on one line (news sites typically use a totally fixed width for this reason). On certain DB pages (not necessarily the FFXI DB, this is a general example) and others of the more precisely controlled pages there can be excessive gaps between objects that don't look good. I realize not everyone will agree with that assessment or just prefer a totally unfixed width regardless, but this is our reasoning for why it was done this way.
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
There's no way to delete sent pms.

This is unlikely to change for now, but that it was showing delete options in a spot or too when it shouldn't have been is now fixed.
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JerekDain wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Which is why you use a % width instead of a fixed width. Which you do. However you also put a limit on the width, which makes absolutely no sense. It doesn't do anything for people using such small resolutions, as they don't reach the cap, and for people using larger monitors, all it does is gives a huge like xbox amount of empty space on the sides.
Setting a max width for the content area is to keep content from spreading out oddly on large resolutions, and gives us more freedom in designing and laying out content to look good without worrying about how it changes at 2000px wide and higher. Having no cap can cause things like paragraphs filling a page width but only on one line (news sites typically use a totally fixed width for this reason). On certain DB pages (not necessarily the FFXI DB, this is a general example) and others of the more precisely controlled pages there can be excessive gaps between objects that don't look good. I realize not everyone will agree with that assessment or just prefer a totally unfixed width regardless, but this is our reasoning for why it was done this way.
You could use a max width for DB pages, etc and not for the forums?
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#124 Dec 14 2010 at 12:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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JerekDain wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
There's no way to delete sent pms.

This is unlikely to change for now, but that it was showing delete options in a spot or too when it shouldn't have been is now fixed.


Previously the reason behind not deleting sent PM's was, "they were no longer your property once they were sent." Or that was how it was explained to me...
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#125 Dec 14 2010 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Notifications from followed threads appears broken.
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Mistress Darqflame wrote:
JerekDain wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
There's no way to delete sent pms.
This is unlikely to change for now, but that it was showing delete options in a spot or too when it shouldn't have been is now fixed.
Previously the reason behind not deleting sent PM's was, "they were no longer your property once they were sent." Or that was how it was explained to me...
That's a bit silly, since all it would do is prevent the sender from seeing it, but whatever, i don't care. Only reason i even mentioned it was because the check boxes were there, but not the delete button, which i figured was unintended.
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#127 Dec 14 2010 at 7:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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hrm, follow notifications broken how?
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acprog wrote:
hrm, follow notifications broken how?
They don't work.
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Don't work for... certain threads, all threads, etc.
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Doesn't work at all.
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#131 Dec 15 2010 at 9:16 PM Rating: Good
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Rating a post changes the reply link to &page=1, regardless of the page.
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#132 Dec 16 2010 at 1:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Follow notifications should be better now. I had added something to stop some duplication on this end, but think I got a little to aggressive there.

edit: Context helps

Edited, Dec 16th 2010 2:03pm by acprog
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Yup, seems fine.
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acprog wrote:
edit: Context helps
Nah, that's not important at all. Especially not in a thread with dozens of different bug reports.

If a post in a followed thread is nuked, the notification goes away, but it still shows the new post in /follow.html

Going directly to the edit page of a post will not mark it as read.
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#135 Dec 17 2010 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Also, the edit button remains in nuked threads, at least in journals/admins.

Attempting to unlock a nuked thread will add the edit message, and do nothing.
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#136 Dec 17 2010 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Is this supposed to be possible? The post comes out to 167,610 characters, out of the max 100k.
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#137 Dec 17 2010 at 11:18 PM Rating: Good
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acprog wrote:
Grand Master Alchemist Mazra wrote:

On a 24" monitor, running 1960x1200, the default skin is only using 50% of the page width. What's the reasoning behind this? Expect people to view the site in windowed mode on a laptop or something?


Last I checked, an overwhelming majority of our pageviews come at 1024x768 still.


Okay, fair enough, but why is the default ZAM layout slimmer than the other* layouts?

The front pages (News) are identical, but if you change the layout while browsing a forum it's pretty clear.

*Tested FFXI, WOW, SWG, WAR and LOTRO.
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Embedded quotes don't properly get cut out of mouseovers. Everything after the first [/quote] tag will still be shown, including any more [/quote] tags.

Edited, Dec 18th 2010 12:43am by ThePsychoticOne
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If a url is used in a thread title contraining .html, .php, and probably others, a space is added into it in the forum index.
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Apparently if your premium runs out, the title will still show up while posting.
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Apparently if your premium runs out, the title will still show up while posting.
Either that or zam knows how to treat me right.
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#142 Dec 21 2010 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Also, sometimes the last post in a thread will have a huge like xbox border around it.
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Also, sometimes the last post in a thread will have a huge like xbox border around it.


I think at some point Jerek (or someone else,) added a border for posts that you access by #post_id (which any URL pointing to gotpost.pl, any link-to-this-post, etc. will do)

If you're seeing it outside of that, lemme know (also stylesheet).

e.g. http://m.zam.com/forum.html?forum=3&mid=1278037453307531499&page=3&howmany=50#msg129299228824247436

edit: add link, lurn2spel

Edited, Dec 21st 2010 10:40pm by acprog
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acprog wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Also, sometimes the last post in a thread will have a huge like xbox border around it.
I think at some point Jerek (or someone else,) added a border for posts that you access by #post_id (which any URL pointing to gotpost.pl, any link-to-this-post, etc. will do)

If you're seeing it outside of that, lemme know (also stylesheet).
Ah, that might be it.

edit: ohh, it only happens with the #msg anchor, and not #m, that's probably why i never realized what caused it.

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Not a bug, but i don't feel like making a new thread: any possibility of an option to filter out journal posts (or any other forum for that matter) from /uposts.html? As i come up on something like 9000 journal posts, that page is becoming increasingly useless Smiley: frown
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JerekDain wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
fcluster/gotopost.pl mouseovers don't work for searches or bookmarks.

These are fixed.
Still broke on user pages, but works on /cgi-bin/bookmarks.pl
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Not a bug, but i don't feel like making a new thread: any possibility of an option to filter out journal posts (or any other forum for that matter) from /uposts.html? As i come up on something like 9000 journal posts, that page is becoming increasingly useless Smiley: frown


In what was is the page useFUL to you? That might help with some direction. Others are welcome to chime in. I'm not sure everyone uses it for the same purposes (i.e. finding posts isntead of forum search, posting in a thread to bookmark it without using bookmarks/forum search, etc., etc.)
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acprog wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Not a bug, but i don't feel like making a new thread: any possibility of an option to filter out journal posts (or any other forum for that matter) from /uposts.html? As i come up on something like 9000 journal posts, that page is becoming increasingly useless Smiley: frown
In what was is the page useFUL to you? That might help with some direction. Others are welcome to chime in. I'm not sure everyone uses it for the same purposes (i.e. finding posts isntead of forum search, posting in a thread to bookmark it without using bookmarks/forum search, etc., etc.)
All of the above, as well as to find post score distribution. It works easily enough for that normally, but for a me, a third of my posts don't count, and most are rated excellent/good by kirby, so that makes it even more inaccurate for me. And of course being able to tell how our posts are rated in each different forum would be interesting to say the least. Not a big deal if you don't do it, but would be cool to have.
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
All of the above, as well as to find post score distribution. It works easily enough for that normally, but for a me, a third of my posts don't count, and most are rated excellent/good by kirby, so that makes it even more inaccurate for me. And of course being able to tell how our posts are rated in each different forum would be interesting to say the least. Not a big deal if you don't do it, but would be cool to have.


Not doing anything related to Karma at this very moment. I'll see about a toggle to in-/ex- clude journal posts in the display.
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acprog wrote:
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All of the above, as well as to find post score distribution. It works easily enough for that normally, but for a me, a third of my posts don't count, and most are rated excellent/good by kirby, so that makes it even more inaccurate for me. And of course being able to tell how our posts are rated in each different forum would be interesting to say the least. Not a big deal if you don't do it, but would be cool to have.
Not doing anything related to Karma at this very moment. I'll see about a toggle to in-/ex- clude journal posts in the display.
It wouldn't really be related to karma, except that it could be used in combination with the previously added sort by rating. But thanks, i'm happy with that.
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
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Not a bug, but i don't feel like making a new thread: any possibility of an option to filter out journal posts (or any other forum for that matter) from /uposts.html? As i come up on something like 9000 journal posts, that page is becoming increasingly useless Smiley: frown
In what was is the page useFUL to you? That might help with some direction. Others are welcome to chime in. I'm not sure everyone uses it for the same purposes (i.e. finding posts isntead of forum search, posting in a thread to bookmark it without using bookmarks/forum search, etc., etc.)
All of the above, as well as to find post score distribution. It works easily enough for that normally, but for a me, a third of my posts don't count, and most are rated excellent/good by kirby, so that makes it even more inaccurate for me. And of course being able to tell how our posts are rated in each different forum would be interesting to say the least. Not a big deal if you don't do it, but would be cool to have.
I'll just rate you down in /K/ so you don't get confused.
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