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#1
May 28 2010 at 6:45 AM
Is that 'advertisement' supposed to be there with 'Your MMO, Fail' 'My MMO, FTW' etc? It doesn't seem much like an alla-sponsered advertisement.
#2
May 28 2010 at 10:16 AM
I took a chance and clicked on it, leads to a crappily designed EQII vs WoW poll with the SoE logo on the bottom of the screen. Not sure if it's legit though.
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#3
May 28 2010 at 5:34 PM
pretty lame if it's legit, if alla got hacked (again) that sucks.
#4
May 28 2010 at 5:43 PM
It's on all forums(Despite all saying WoW). They've had these type of full-page ads on the frontpage of FFXI for awhile now.
#5
May 28 2010 at 6:42 PM
The skin (what that advertising unit is called when the background is an ad) is intended.
Our wow site has had skins on it for over a year whenever that ad unit was sold.
I wouldn't normally comment on the advertising running on our sites unless it breaks one of our guidelines, but there seems to have been some concern over the legitimacy of that ad unit.
Our wow site has had skins on it for over a year whenever that ad unit was sold.
I wouldn't normally comment on the advertising running on our sites unless it breaks one of our guidelines, but there seems to have been some concern over the legitimacy of that ad unit.
#6
May 28 2010 at 7:09 PM
Nizdaar wrote:
The skin (what that advertising unit is called when the background is an ad) is intended.
Our wow site has had skins on it for over a year whenever that ad unit was sold.
I wouldn't normally comment on the advertising running on our sites unless it breaks one of our guidelines, but there seems to have been some concern over the legitimacy of that ad unit.
Our wow site has had skins on it for over a year whenever that ad unit was sold.
I wouldn't normally comment on the advertising running on our sites unless it breaks one of our guidelines, but there seems to have been some concern over the legitimacy of that ad unit.
Thank you for the information. The ad just looks of a lot less quality than what the normal ad units look like for the site skins. It looked a lot like the site was hacked and someone put a fake ad up in the background to taunt the site/hosts/admins/etc.
#7
May 28 2010 at 8:40 PM
Like niz said, it's a legit ad from SOE, and the site it leads to is a SOE site (despite the URL not being an official SOE URL) and the survey is safe to take.
My personal feelings as an EQ2 player is that a really good ad that lead to a page that detailed all the awesome changes they have made would work better but.... maybe that's why I'm not in marketing!
Edited, May 28th 2010 10:50pm by Draknorr
My personal feelings as an EQ2 player is that a really good ad that lead to a page that detailed all the awesome changes they have made would work better but.... maybe that's why I'm not in marketing!
Edited, May 28th 2010 10:50pm by Draknorr
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#8
May 28 2010 at 8:51 PM
That was legit? Tell me someones kid did it and the marketing group was pressured into it...
#9
May 28 2010 at 9:50 PM
Draknorr wrote:
My personal feelings as an EQ2 player is that a really good ad that lead to a page that detailed all the awesome changes they have made would work better but.... maybe that's why I'm not in marketing!
Personal feelings aside, what does an EQ2 ad have to do with World of Warcraft? I'm a premium member and couldn't care less about adverts, but wouldn't it be a more sensible advertisement strategy to put a WoW related advert on the WoW template/forum?
I can't even begin to imagine what a non-EQ2 player might contribute with to a survey like that. Probably nothing good, considering the advert is provocative in that it markets EQ2 as better than the game the clicker is playing.
If you rephrase it, you get something like "I win, you suck, now please fill out this survey for me." Well, pardon me for playing an inferior game with a superior subscription base. Allow me to help you out now that you've told me how much I suck.
Doesn't seem productive, that's all.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
#10
May 28 2010 at 10:02 PM
Mazra wrote:
Draknorr wrote:
My personal feelings as an EQ2 player is that a really good ad that lead to a page that detailed all the awesome changes they have made would work better but.... maybe that's why I'm not in marketing!
Personal feelings aside, what does an EQ2 ad have to do with World of Warcraft? I'm a premium member and couldn't care less about adverts, but wouldn't it be a more sensible advertisement strategy to put a WoW related advert on the WoW template/forum?
I can't even begin to imagine what a non-EQ2 player might contribute with to a survey like that. Probably nothing good, considering the advert is provocative in that it markets EQ2 as better than the game the clicker is playing.
If you rephrase it, you get something like "I win, you suck, now please fill out this survey for me." Well, pardon me for playing an inferior game with a superior subscription base. Allow me to help you out now that you've told me how much I suck.
Doesn't seem productive, that's all.
I have to agree, I just filled in the survey (derp 5 questions + a comment line). and the answer was simple for why I play wow and not EQ2... less grinding and the raiding game isn't even comparable (at least imho)....but personal feelings aside I find that the ad is one of the least-effective/classless ads that I have seen on a real site. might as well have been adultfriendfinder.
Edited, May 29th 2010 12:13am by Anobix
#11
May 29 2010 at 12:03 AM
Dilbrt wrote:
pretty lame if it's legit, if alla got hacked (again) that sucks.
#12
May 29 2010 at 12:30 AM
Quote:
Personal feelings aside, what does an EQ2 ad have to do with World of Warcraft? I'm a premium member and couldn't care less about adverts, but wouldn't it be a more sensible advertisement strategy to put a WoW related advert on the WoW template/forum?
It's a EQ2 ad, not a WoW ad. They are trying to pull people from other games (specifically WoW) using the ad. If anything you would question why it's on the EQ2 site.
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#13
May 29 2010 at 12:36 AM
Mazra wrote:
Personal feelings aside, what does an EQ2 ad have to do with World of Warcraft? I'm a premium member and couldn't care less about adverts, but wouldn't it be a more sensible advertisement strategy to put a WoW related advert on the WoW template/forum?
It might be, but I doubt Allakhazam cares very much about how effective the advertisements are as long as they get paid for it.
#14
May 29 2010 at 2:59 AM
Mazra wrote:
Draknorr wrote:
My personal feelings as an EQ2 player is that a really good ad that lead to a page that detailed all the awesome changes they have made would work better but.... maybe that's why I'm not in marketing!
Personal feelings aside, what does an EQ2 ad have to do with World of Warcraft? I'm a premium member and couldn't care less about adverts, but wouldn't it be a more sensible advertisement strategy to put a WoW related advert on the WoW template/forum?
Why would anyone checking the WoW site not already be into WoW? I'm guessing putting anything third-party WoW related would be a problem since they might be infected and other MMO companies can probably pay more than a small third-party company.
#15
May 29 2010 at 11:38 AM
Overburn wrote:
Why would anyone checking the WoW site not already be into WoW? I'm guessing putting anything third-party WoW related would be a problem since they might be infected and other MMO companies can probably pay more than a small third-party company.
Draknorr wrote:
It's a EQ2 ad, not a WoW ad. They are trying to pull people from other games (specifically WoW) using the ad. If anything you would question why it's on the EQ2 site.
Meh, it's not so much the choice of advert I'm pondering, since I know you guys would grab anything that might help the site run, and I support that. It's more the advert itself.
Telling a potential customer how much his current product, and thus the customer, fails does not seem like a sound marketing strategy.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
#16
May 29 2010 at 11:56 AM
Lubriderm the Hand wrote:
Dilbrt wrote:
pretty lame if it's legit, if alla got hacked (again) that sucks.
The servers have never been sucessfully compromised. We have had DDoS (Direct Denial of Service) attacks that have knocked us offline, but no attacker (and there have been many over the years) has suceeded in taking even partial control of the site. Ever.
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#17
May 29 2010 at 2:06 PM
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Mazra wrote:
Meh, it's not so much the choice of advert I'm pondering, since I know you guys would grab anything that might help the site run, and I support that. It's more the advert itself.
Telling a potential customer how much his current product, and thus the customer, fails does not seem like a sound marketing strategy.
Seems the marketing people at SOE have come to the same conclusion seeing as they've altered the ad so it now says "Tell me why your MMO is so cool".
#18
May 29 2010 at 2:59 PM
Xeddox wrote:
Mazra wrote:
Meh, it's not so much the choice of advert I'm pondering, since I know you guys would grab anything that might help the site run, and I support that. It's more the advert itself.
Telling a potential customer how much his current product, and thus the customer, fails does not seem like a sound marketing strategy.
Seems the marketing people at SOE have come to the same conclusion seeing as they've altered the ad so it now says "Tell me why your MMO is so cool".
More like, they received the data and it shows WoW beating out EQ 100 to 1 and now they're asking "WTF!? Okay, why is WoW SO FREAKING COOL!? TELL ME WHY! DO IT! DO IT!"
If they want to know.... why don't they just try WoW for a few hours? It doesn't take long, for a person to see some of the cool things about WoW... everything from how smooth the gameplay is, to the graphics, to how fast the game loads up, etc.
#19
May 29 2010 at 3:09 PM
Lyrailis wrote:
It doesn't take long, for a person to see some of the cool things about WoW [...] the graphics
#20
May 29 2010 at 5:32 PM
ThePsychoticOne the Prohpet wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
It doesn't take long, for a person to see some of the cool things about WoW [...] the graphics
I'm assuming you've never gotten far enough to get a flying mount, and see some breath-taking scenery while flying high on a dragon, if you have a computer strong enough to set max view distance and/or other settings high.
#21
May 29 2010 at 5:36 PM
Lyrailis wrote:
ThePsychoticOne the Prohpet wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
It doesn't take long, for a person to see some of the cool things about WoW [...] the graphics
#22
May 29 2010 at 6:20 PM
ThePsychoticOne the Prohpet wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
ThePsychoticOne the Prohpet wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
It doesn't take long, for a person to see some of the cool things about WoW [...] the graphics
Not to make this a wow vs (insert mmo here) thread, I was amused at first by them as well. The benefit to the cartoony graphics is that it scales better, and never really looks as outdated as an older mmo (say, the original EQ), it is easier for them to up the pixel-count or up the texture quality without needing to re-make the entire game engine. At least that is how I've always seen it.
#23
May 29 2010 at 6:23 PM
Anobix wrote:
ThePsychoticOne the Prohpet wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
ThePsychoticOne the Prohpet wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
It doesn't take long, for a person to see some of the cool things about WoW [...] the graphics
Edited, May 29th 2010 8:24pm by ThePsychoticOne
#24
May 29 2010 at 8:46 PM
ThePsychoticOne the Prohpet wrote:
High resolution cartoons are still cartoons. And they aren't even good looking cartoons either. They always seemed like they were designed to be amusing.
It's not as bad as you think. I mean, this isn't a game adapted from a live-action movie or a book, it's based on a 90's RTS game franchise. Naturally it's going to look a bit like those games, otherwise it might as well be World of Whatever.
I think it's funny when EQ2 and FFXI players say WoW has shoddy graphics because it's cartoony. I've played FFXI and EQ2. It's not like they're omgrealism.
Besides, they're making improvements to WoW in just about every expansion. Realistic shadows in the most recent one and the next will feature new water graphics.
Edited, May 30th 2010 4:53am by Mazra
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#25
May 29 2010 at 8:52 PM
Mazra wrote:
I think it's funny when EQ2 and FFXI players say WoW has shoddy graphics because it's cartoony. I've played FFXI and EQ2. It's not like they're omgrealism.
#26
May 29 2010 at 8:59 PM
ThePsychoticOne the Prohpet wrote:
Mazra wrote:
I think it's funny when EQ2 and FFXI players say WoW has shoddy graphics because it's cartoony. I've played FFXI and EQ2. It's not like they're omgrealism.
Apparently you've not seen screenshots from the World of Warcraft that the rest of us play. Please do share these 1000x less realistic and completely ridiculous screenshots. I'm pretty intrigued now, actually.
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