Forum Settings
       
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

Awful new lookFollow

#1 Apr 16 2010 at 9:21 AM Rating: Default
Why oh Why remove the links on the left hand side and at least replace them on the sucky new menus . ITS AWFUL, guess I'll just go with the free version of the site from now on OMG!!!!!!!
#2 Apr 16 2010 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
*****
13,251 posts
OMG!!!!!!!
#4 Apr 16 2010 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
I guess it's time to welcome all the FFXI people to 2009.Smiley: laugh

EDIT: Just saw you were an EQ poster... Same applies there.

Edited, Apr 16th 2010 6:05pm by LadyOfHolyDarkness
#5 Apr 16 2010 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
It's Just a Flesh Wound
******
22,702 posts
LadyOfHolyDarkness, Eater of Souls wrote:
I guess it's time to welcome all the FFXI people to 2009.Smiley: laugh

EDIT: Just saw you were an EQ poster... Same applies there.


For some of us, we moved to the ffxi/eq skins to avoid this crappy layout. Why make navigation worse and the site not only look ********* but make everything more cramped together with 5 inches of blank space on each side.
____________________________
Dear people I don't like: 凸(●´―`●)凸
#6 Apr 16 2010 at 11:23 PM Rating: Good
Oh, I did the same. I was viewing the forums with the Hello Kitty stylesheet lol. I'm just saying that this has been complained about for over a year and that based on that, I think further complaints aren't going to accomplish anything. It reminds me of how the iGoogle personalized homepages were much more screen-space efficient before they changed them, and people would use the UK version just to keep the old layout... until about a year later when they changed all of the versions to look like the new US one.

Anyway, here's a userside fix at least:

JamisonP wrote:
Below is a stylish setup that I use to maximize data available on the screen. It removes the other game links, displays the forums wide (can update the number if you're over 2400px width for some reason), stretches the forums over the right ad-bar (gone from AdBlock) and hides signatures.

If you really don't like the format, change it. There's not a whole lot of sites that are as good as they can be, some for advertising purposes, others in dire need of redesign, still more that have to be careful with accessibility. Changing it to be customized to your likings goes a long way.

@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml); 
 
@-moz-document domain("ffxi.allakhazam.com") { 
  #row-top { display: none !important; }  
  #wrapper { max-width: 2400px !important; }  
  #col-main { margin-right: 0px !important; } 
  .msgSig { display: none !important; } 
}
#7 Apr 17 2010 at 4:13 AM Rating: Default
No kiddin this new ffront page sucks horse hoof
#8 Apr 17 2010 at 6:05 AM Rating: Default
In additional to this horrid site layout, it appears functionality has now been lost. There was a search input over the the left where I could enter the name of a quest to see the details of it. If this can still be done, I cannot figure out how to do it now. Entering the names of quests in the search input at the top right of the screen does not show the quest, and I cannot find the quest (which I have seen with the old layout) within the menu under Database, Game Information, Quests.

The quest information was the number one reason I subscribed to this site, but it's fubar now. Thanks.

Right -- and ZAM will no longer get any of my cash for this asinine change.


Edited, Apr 17th 2010 8:23am by HotRocks
#9 Apr 17 2010 at 6:43 AM Rating: Excellent
Bad j00 j00
Avatar
***
2,159 posts
HotRocks wrote:
In additional to this horrid site layout, it appears functionality has now been lost. There was a search input over the the left where I could enter the name of a quest to see the details of it. If this can still be done, I cannot figure out how to do it now. Entering the names of quests in the search input at the top right of the screen does not show the quest, and I cannot find the quest (which I have seen with the old layout) within the menu under Database, Game Information, Quests.

The quest information was the number one reason I subscribed to this site, but it's fubar now. Thanks.

Right -- and ZAM will no longer get any of my cash for this asinine change.


Edited, Apr 17th 2010 8:23am by HotRocks


Which quest and white site? Search functionality should not have changed.
#10 Apr 17 2010 at 7:08 AM Rating: Default
This is for LOTRO. I have a quest called The Path of The Mischief-Maker. This is the exact name of the quest, and it is a level 58 quest. However, it does not appear when I enter this text in the search input at the top of the screen. I just see 14 guides and no quests. Another one is Out of The South. This is a level 53 quest. I get the same results.

When I click database, I have an option to list all quests, which I have clicked. All quests appear to show by location, but the first quest is a class specific quest in Moria (so I guess it should be listed under Moria?).
#11 Apr 17 2010 at 11:41 AM Rating: Default
The new site is atrocious - I know because I test sites.
#12 Apr 17 2010 at 5:06 PM Rating: Default
Quote:
Another one is Out of The South. This is a level 53 quest. I get the same results.


To clarify this, I do not get the same search results from both quests. Instead, I get a different set of search results that do not include either quest.

I was performing searches on quests that I currently have pending. I played around a bit and performed a search on an older quest that I had already completed, and it does show up in the list of search results after entering it in the upper right search input. I suppose it is possible that the two quests I had originally listed were never in the database (these quests are not brand new though, so I would think it would be unusual to not have this listed at all. The level 53 quest is even older).

Secondly, I do not remember there being so many of the same quest appearing under different pages. This seems to be a new issue at least for the LOTR site. If it's not new, I sure do not remember seeing it before. As an example, take the quest Book 5: Chapter 8: Fire and Ice. When I search for this quest, I enter the text Fire and Ice. I get three results, two of which are the same quest listed under two different pages. When I first looked this quest up, I clicked the link for the instance version and did not see the detail posted by other users as to where to go for the items I needed. This is the instance version of the quest that appears in the search results.

Here's the first link that I remember seeing in the past:
http://lotro.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?lotrquest=1110

Here's a second link to the same quest that contains no info:
http://lotro.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?lotrquest=1111

I'm going from memory, but I do not recall seeing this before.
#13 Apr 17 2010 at 6:35 PM Rating: Default
Okay -- here is a bug due to this new site layout. It never happened prior to this.

Go here: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien

In Internet Explorer 8, I see "Error on the page" at the lower left.

If I click the Geography tab, nothing happens.

When I double cick the error icon at the lower left, I see the issue:

Webpage error details 
 
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0; Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; OfficeLiveConnector.1.4; OfficeLivePatch.1.3) 
Timestamp: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:34:06 UTC 
 
 
Message: Object required 
Line: 1 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien 
 
 
Message: Object required 
Line: 1 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien 
 
 
Message: Object required 
Line: 1 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien 
 
 
Message: Object required 
Line: 1 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien 
 
 
Message: Object required 
Line: 1 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien 
 
 
Message: Object required 
Line: 1 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien 
 
 
Message: Object required 
Line: 1 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien 
 
 
Message: Object required 
Line: 1 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien 
 
 
Message: Object required 
Line: 1 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien 
 
 
Message: Object expected 
Line: 90 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien 
 
 
Message: Object expected 
Line: 90 
Char: 1 
Code: 0 
URI: http://lotro.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Lothlorien
#14 Apr 19 2010 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
9 posts
yeah, ugh... this new layout...

charlie brown shouting "UGH!!!" would be a good summing up...
#15 Apr 19 2010 at 11:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Bad j00 j00
Avatar
***
2,159 posts
HotRocks wrote:
Quote:
Another one is Out of The South. This is a level 53 quest. I get the same results.


To clarify this, I do not get the same search results from both quests. Instead, I get a different set of search results that do not include either quest.

I was performing searches on quests that I currently have pending. I played around a bit and performed a search on an older quest that I had already completed, and it does show up in the list of search results after entering it in the upper right search input. I suppose it is possible that the two quests I had originally listed were never in the database (these quests are not brand new though, so I would think it would be unusual to not have this listed at all. The level 53 quest is even older).

Secondly, I do not remember there being so many of the same quest appearing under different pages. This seems to be a new issue at least for the LOTR site. If it's not new, I sure do not remember seeing it before. As an example, take the quest Book 5: Chapter 8: Fire and Ice. When I search for this quest, I enter the text Fire and Ice. I get three results, two of which are the same quest listed under two different pages. When I first looked this quest up, I clicked the link for the instance version and did not see the detail posted by other users as to where to go for the items I needed. This is the instance version of the quest that appears in the search results.

Here's the first link that I remember seeing in the past:
http://lotro.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?lotrquest=1110

Here's a second link to the same quest that contains no info:
http://lotro.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?lotrquest=1111

I'm going from memory, but I do not recall seeing this before.


This bug should now be fixed. Let me know if it's not.
#16 Apr 22 2010 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
I have to admit, I hate the new look! After 9 years of using this site, I am totally lost and cannot even find the @#$@ search link. Who's bright idea was it to make such a drastic change to a staple of the EQ community. WTH!!!
#17 Apr 22 2010 at 4:34 PM Rating: Default
It's Just a Flesh Wound
******
22,702 posts
Yeah, I can't even find the search bar in the ffxi skin as well. More reasons to not use skin, etc.

edit: Why in gods name would you put it in the top right corner, away from everything else?

Edited, Apr 22nd 2010 10:55pm by Deadgye
____________________________
Dear people I don't like: 凸(●´―`●)凸
#18 Apr 23 2010 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
9 posts
yeah, I'd love the old look back...

but if it's going to be "oh there's only a few feedbacks here"... put a poll up... get the results from everyone who logs in and see... Like it... don't matter and hate it... might get a better view of the communities point of view as a whole if a poll was left up for everyone to answer... (the one someone did do a poll on the EQ forums area, as of this posting here, 105 people answered it... 94 votes hated it (89.5%)... and 11 votes liked it (10.5%))...

#19 Apr 24 2010 at 11:47 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Poll in Forum=4 had the same spread.

Doesn't matter though. They already spent money on doing it and someone decided that it's better to have a consistent crap look than to go back to the preferred look(s).
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#20 Apr 25 2010 at 12:58 AM Rating: Good
Ghost in the Machine
Avatar
******
36,443 posts
In before "Corporate decision, my hands are tied, etc."

Whoever designed the default Zam skin needs a crash course in webdesign. Menu system is all fancy and space-saving, but considering there is enough space to give from (I've got major blank areas on either side of this frame), I don't see why they'd implement space-savers instead of time-savers, which is what the old system was.

Example: Finding my Hunter's list of trainable abilities on the World of Warcraft site.

Before

Click Game, click Spells, click Hunter.

After

Click Database, click Characters, click Spells, click Hunter.

Minor increase in time spent, but here's the kicker: By clicking Database, you open up the Database sub-menu, but move away from the Forums sub-menu. So to go back, you need to click Forums and then select the General forum or one of he Class forums.

I have the General forum bookmarked and the bookmark placed almost above the Zam logo. It's faster than going through that field of sub-menus anyway.
____________________________
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
#21 Apr 25 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
*
107 posts
There is a link directly to Drakah where we can download the old EQ UI. If this did not tell "ZAM" people anything about, "don't fix it if it ain't broke," then I think we're at a loss.

I, too, cannot stand the sight or functionality of the new EQ Alla. Everything was perfect the way it was. I don't even like the little black bar that the trivia question answer is under now. I liked it being at the bottom! Recipes, tradeskills, quests... EVERYTHING was so much easier before the change.

This reminds me of something that happened a few months ago in my city. Somebody thought it was a good idea to rearrange everything at the walmart neighborhood market. Shopping lists that used to take me 20 minutes now take me over an hour because nothing is where I can find it!

Ok, enough of that, sorry. It just figures that we get accustomed to the way things are, we develop a routine, we become efficient, therefore, and then someone throws a wrench into the cogs and we have to readjust and relearn everything. It sucks and it's a waste of time, especially when everyone is unhappy about it, and it seems to be happening all around us, with everything that was never "broken" to begin with.

My breasts look amazing, I think I'll get plastic surgery.
____________________________
72nd Cleric of the Nameless


#22 Apr 25 2010 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
Ghost in the Machine
Avatar
******
36,443 posts
Ayekinheelya wrote:
My breasts look amazing, I think I'll get plastic surgery.


Two positives do not give a negative result. Smiley: sly

In this case it would be more fitting with an analogy along the lines of:

My breasts look amazing, I think I'll pay someone to f*ck them up.
____________________________
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
#23 Apr 25 2010 at 5:10 PM Rating: Decent
It's Just a Flesh Wound
******
22,702 posts
We could assume that the plastic surgery was done horribly and now they look and function worse than before.
____________________________
Dear people I don't like: 凸(●´―`●)凸
#24 Apr 25 2010 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
*
107 posts
I'm sure we can all agree, in this thread, that the bottom line is it was unnecessary, things were fine before, and it was a waste of time and money in the end. I see how plastic surgery -bad plastic surgery- may still benefit the surgeon. But, who came out ahead in this one, exactly?

That is all.
____________________________
72nd Cleric of the Nameless


#25 Apr 25 2010 at 6:26 PM Rating: Good
*****
10,564 posts
I think we can all agree, in this thread, that we are fans of breasts and potentially plastic surgery.
____________________________
◕ ‿‿ ◕
#26 Apr 25 2010 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
Ghost in the Machine
Avatar
******
36,443 posts
Ayekinheelya wrote:
I'm sure we can all agree, in this thread, that the bottom line is it was unnecessary, things were fine before, and it was a waste of time and money in the end. I see how plastic surgery -bad plastic surgery- may still benefit the surgeon. But, who came out ahead in this one, exactly?

That is all.


tl;dr

Screenshot
____________________________
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 66 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (66)