Caesura wrote:
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Because people have frequently said they don't post sometimes because they're afraid they'll get rated down?
And perhaps the forum is better off without a good chunk of those posts?
Some, but not all of them. Killing two to save a hundred?
See: bottom of this post. Caesura wrote:
It seems to me that a lot of people who complain about pointless ratedowns are actually posters who said something thoughtless or rude but couldn't grasp the negative response. There are random ratedowns, sure, but there are a lot more that were earned.
I recently had to deal with a karma camper myself. Nasty business, but most of all because it made me unsure whether or not I should post at all. I don't care about the rating itself since my post count pretty much solidifies my rating, but I was afraid I was starting to be rude, which would indicate my time to leave. Luckily it was just one person with a grudge, apparently. Still irks me that someone out there could deliver anonymous mud-flinging without me being able to find out why. If you rate someone up or down, you should be able to stand by that action, so I don't see why it's so hush-hush about who rates who.
Caesura wrote:
The system doubtless has its flaws, but I see very few white names who consistently post supportive and helpful information, and very few red or green names who are constant idiots. Just try to find a troll Sage or Guru with more than 100 posts.
I believe you start at white/orange/whatever. If you don't get rated up at all, you stay there when you get past the 12/16 posts where the karma kicks in. I've seen people post useful stuff, get rated up and then get rated down for being rated up at sub-100 posts. Yes, you read it right. People are rating others down for being rated up.
Ladies and gentlemen, that's just silly. As for finding a troll Sage or Guru with 100+ posts, have you ever been to the Out of Topic forum? Or hell, even the game forums have their sort. Granted, I don't post a lot of useful stuff anymore, usually because the days of making guides and such are over with the various wikipedias out there, but I still chime in with something useful once in a while. I used to post under the alias 'Qaoz' and did some pretty stupid stuff in the Asylum back then. I decided to start over and focused more on the OOT and WoW game forum. I hit Sage pretty fast by providing some useful guides and advice for new players, but then my past history was dug up and the Asylum in its entirety came by to pay me a visit, sending me down to sub-default. 25k posts later and I've finally managed to move my default posting score from 'Decent' to 'Good'. I should hit Sage in about 20k posts. Or I could start over again and hit Sage within a day.
Caesura wrote:
I'd rather have a system that makes people a little scared of posting idiocy than the way every second post is rude or argumentative garbage. The average at Alla isn't a lot better, but it is better.
I'd rather have a system that works. I know I'm asking a lot, but assuming the cake isn't a lie, it should be possible to get it and eat it too.