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I might be looking for all the class abilities of a Druid at lvl 58, using the browse feature is a quick and easy way to do it rather than trying to do a 'search'
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
Allakhazam has a search feature on the WoW portion of the site and a firefox plug in for quick searches.
WoW head pretty much starts off as a search engine.
http://www.wowhead.com/
WoW head pretty much starts off as a search engine.
http://www.wowhead.com/
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
bodhisattva wrote:
I have seen DF kicking worldofwar.net for having security issues, which is not cool considering the fact that Allakhazam has had malicious programs in their advertising before.
For the record, Darkflame made 1 post on that subject, where she mentioned that she believed at the time that the keyloggers were coming from ui.worldofwar.net.
At the time, they were.
http://www.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21;mid=1173134338170583364;page=1;howmany=50#1173166420226631666
We have had a breach in our ad system yes. A third party ad vendor (I believe it was tribalfusion) was hacked and an ad with a virus package in a popup was loading for about 1 hour. As soon as we were notified, we pulled the entire ad system until the malicious ad was found and removed. That was over 2 years ago. That same ad company was also serving that ad to thousands of other sites at the same time. It was not a security breack with our site, it was a securoty breach with a third party, who would also bear the legal responsability for said breach should someone wish to persue that route. Passing along information is not the same as kicking another site.
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I look up quests on Wowhead because they show the entire quest chain in the sidebar.
I look up items there because they generally have the most accurate drop rates and faster load times. Also, they show skinning drop rates and have a better clickthru system for crafted items.
I look up abilities and crafting stuff there because, well, it loads faster and it's not riddled with errors and incomplete information and it requires less clicks.
For example, on rank 1 Eviscerate:
I really only use Alla for the forums now. I'll admit that the item pages here have improved, but overall Wowhead gets the job done faster.
I look up items there because they generally have the most accurate drop rates and faster load times. Also, they show skinning drop rates and have a better clickthru system for crafted items.
I look up abilities and crafting stuff there because, well, it loads faster and it's not riddled with errors and incomplete information and it requires less clicks.
For example, on rank 1 Eviscerate:
Quote:
Finishing move that causes damage per combo point: 1 point : ${1 to 5+($b1*1)+$AP*0.03}-${1 to 5+($b1*1)+$AP*0.03} damage 2 points: ${1 to 5+($b1*2)+$AP*0.06}-${1 to 5+($b1*2)+$AP*0.06} damage 3 points: ${1 to 5+($b1*3)+$AP*0.09}-${1 to 5+($b1*3)+$AP*0.09} damage 4 points: ${1 to 5+($b1*4)+$AP*0.12}-${1 to 5+($b1*4)+$AP*0.12} damage 5 points: ${1 to 5+($b1*5)+$AP*0.15}-${1 to 5+($b1*5)+$AP*0.15} damage
I really only use Alla for the forums now. I'll admit that the item pages here have improved, but overall Wowhead gets the job done faster.
DF made a shot at worldofwarcraftui while plugging the new Zam.com affiliate MMOI.
Perhaps not the best example but it was one of the ones that came to mind.
Perhaps not the best example but it was one of the ones that came to mind.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
It wasn't a shot, it was a statement of fact. look above at my last post. I linked it for you. If she said anything worse than that, it wasn't on this site.
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Let me add in my 2 cents: I think that Alla actually has more information than WoWhead. However, WoWhead is organized better than Alla. I really like the dropdown menus under browse more than the sidebar menu on Alla. Perhaps it's time that Alla looked at the way things are presented and try using drop-down menus instead of pages. I think it would make searching a bit easier. A good way to test the concept might be in getting to the class forums. When you click on "Classes..." on the sidebar, all you get is a new page with a list of forums to choose from. Getting a drop-down there would simplify getting to the proper forum. If that works out, perhaps a larger look at the sidebar menu might be appropriate.
edit: drop down menus would also save tons of bandwidth, and that's also a good thing for Alla as well as the searchers.
Edited, Apr 12th 2007 7:56pm by ohmikeghod
edit: drop down menus would also save tons of bandwidth, and that's also a good thing for Alla as well as the searchers.
Edited, Apr 12th 2007 7:56pm by ohmikeghod
ohmikeghod the Venerable wrote:
edit: drop down menus would also save tons of bandwidth, and that's also a good thing for Alla as well as the searchers.
Edited, Apr 12th 2007 7:56pm by ohmikeghod
Huh??? How do you figure? All that menu content still has to laod, and a javascript driven menu like that would actually take longer to load.
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People make suggestions.
But they seem to get ignored.
It's called "polish" and other sites have it.
Compare the second link to this: http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=7.2
Another thing which i made a thread about months ago that was also ignored,
I dont understand that. Go to wowhead or even thottbot and look at the evis description. It makes sense there.
*Note: I picked random ranks so those probably dont add up to the same.
edit: heh didnt see Makaro's post. Glad im not the only one bothered by it.
Edited, Apr 13th 2007 11:04am by KTurner
But they seem to get ignored.
It's called "polish" and other sites have it.
Compare the second link to this: http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=7.2
Another thing which i made a thread about months ago that was also ignored,
Eviscerate here wrote:
Finishing move that causes damage per combo point:
1 point : [54 to 162+170+$AP*0.03]-[54 to 162+170+$AP*0.03] damage
2 points: [54 to 162+340+$AP*0.06]-[54 to 162+340+$AP*0.06] damage
3 points: [54 to 162+510+$AP*0.09]-[54 to 162+510+$AP*0.09] damage
4 points: [54 to 162+680+$AP*0.12]-[54 to 162+680+$AP*0.12] damage
5 points: [54 to 162+850+$AP*0.15]-[54 to 162+850+$AP*0.15] damage
1 point : [54 to 162+170+$AP*0.03]-[54 to 162+170+$AP*0.03] damage
2 points: [54 to 162+340+$AP*0.06]-[54 to 162+340+$AP*0.06] damage
3 points: [54 to 162+510+$AP*0.09]-[54 to 162+510+$AP*0.09] damage
4 points: [54 to 162+680+$AP*0.12]-[54 to 162+680+$AP*0.12] damage
5 points: [54 to 162+850+$AP*0.15]-[54 to 162+850+$AP*0.15] damage
I dont understand that. Go to wowhead or even thottbot and look at the evis description. It makes sense there.
Evis at WoWhead wrote:
Finishing move that causes damage per combo point:
1 point : [199 + AP * 0.03]-[295 + AP * 0.03] damage
2 points: [350 + AP * 0.06]-[446 + AP * 0.06] damage
3 points: [501 + AP * 0.09]-[597 + AP * 0.09] damage
4 points: [652 + AP * 0.12]-[748 + AP * 0.12] damage
5 points: [803 + AP * 0.15]-[899 + AP * 0.15] damage
1 point : [199 + AP * 0.03]-[295 + AP * 0.03] damage
2 points: [350 + AP * 0.06]-[446 + AP * 0.06] damage
3 points: [501 + AP * 0.09]-[597 + AP * 0.09] damage
4 points: [652 + AP * 0.12]-[748 + AP * 0.12] damage
5 points: [803 + AP * 0.15]-[899 + AP * 0.15] damage
*Note: I picked random ranks so those probably dont add up to the same.
edit: heh didnt see Makaro's post. Glad im not the only one bothered by it.
Edited, Apr 13th 2007 11:04am by KTurner
Because I'm sure this will get lost in the thread it's already in.
Basically I'm trying to compare two similar pages and their functionality. We really need more clustered information for dungeons. In the FFXI world this would probably be nice for BCNM's too.
[quote]Without searching try to find what Harbinger Skyriss drops. You can use Bestiary (3 clicks), or Items by Zone (3 clicks). Either way you get to this page
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=21467
Now on www.wowhead.com it still takes 3 clicks. But after 2 clicks you're given this page which immeadiately gives you a jumping off point 8 related topics (Heroic Drops, Bosses, Comments, NPC's, Objects, Quests, etc.). After the third click you get to this page:
http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=20912
Now this page is far from perfect, but it looks so much cleaner and gives more information up front. The page has a picture first and foremost (I know Allah does that too but for whatever reason we don't have one at this point). It still has the related information "tabs" that allow quick access to more information. It has more information revealed (in this case listing the type of armor/weapon that is dropped and HP/MP text). It has an editorial text box (even if it isn't being used atm) for flavor text or guide information.
I don't know, maybe the more I think about it the more I like the tabbed seperation of information. It allows you to offer more information with little extra hassle. I guess I also prefer the clean tables of wowhead vs. the seemingly odd and inconsistent tables of Allah.
Basically I'm trying to compare two similar pages and their functionality. We really need more clustered information for dungeons. In the FFXI world this would probably be nice for BCNM's too.
[quote]Without searching try to find what Harbinger Skyriss drops. You can use Bestiary (3 clicks), or Items by Zone (3 clicks). Either way you get to this page
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=21467
Now on www.wowhead.com it still takes 3 clicks. But after 2 clicks you're given this page which immeadiately gives you a jumping off point 8 related topics (Heroic Drops, Bosses, Comments, NPC's, Objects, Quests, etc.). After the third click you get to this page:
http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=20912
Now this page is far from perfect, but it looks so much cleaner and gives more information up front. The page has a picture first and foremost (I know Allah does that too but for whatever reason we don't have one at this point). It still has the related information "tabs" that allow quick access to more information. It has more information revealed (in this case listing the type of armor/weapon that is dropped and HP/MP text). It has an editorial text box (even if it isn't being used atm) for flavor text or guide information.
I don't know, maybe the more I think about it the more I like the tabbed seperation of information. It allows you to offer more information with little extra hassle. I guess I also prefer the clean tables of wowhead vs. the seemingly odd and inconsistent tables of Allah.
Am I the only person who has a 1-2 second load time per page? Does everyone seriously think alla is slow?
edit:
Am I also the only one who seeing the alla version as more accurate? Try taking away the $ signs with your mind and you'll find out that alla is accounting for the range of damage and not just the average.
If do think it needs to be fixed up a little, this would be better.
Edited, Apr 13th 2007 7:47pm by Deadgye
edit:
KTurner wrote:
People make suggestions.
But they seem to get ignored.
It's called "polish" and other sites have it.
Compare the second link to this: http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=7.2
Another thing which i made a thread about months ago that was also ignored,
I dont understand that. Go to wowhead or even thottbot and look at the evis description. It makes sense there.
*Note: I picked random ranks so those probably dont add up to the same.
edit: heh didnt see Makaro's post. Glad im not the only one bothered by it.
Edited, Apr 13th 2007 11:04am by KTurner
But they seem to get ignored.
It's called "polish" and other sites have it.
Compare the second link to this: http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=7.2
Another thing which i made a thread about months ago that was also ignored,
Eviscerate here wrote:
Finishing move that causes damage per combo point:
1 point : [54 to 162+170+$AP*0.03]-[54 to 162+170+$AP*0.03] damage
2 points: [54 to 162+340+$AP*0.06]-[54 to 162+340+$AP*0.06] damage
3 points: [54 to 162+510+$AP*0.09]-[54 to 162+510+$AP*0.09] damage
4 points: [54 to 162+680+$AP*0.12]-[54 to 162+680+$AP*0.12] damage
5 points: [54 to 162+850+$AP*0.15]-[54 to 162+850+$AP*0.15] damage
1 point : [54 to 162+170+$AP*0.03]-[54 to 162+170+$AP*0.03] damage
2 points: [54 to 162+340+$AP*0.06]-[54 to 162+340+$AP*0.06] damage
3 points: [54 to 162+510+$AP*0.09]-[54 to 162+510+$AP*0.09] damage
4 points: [54 to 162+680+$AP*0.12]-[54 to 162+680+$AP*0.12] damage
5 points: [54 to 162+850+$AP*0.15]-[54 to 162+850+$AP*0.15] damage
I dont understand that. Go to wowhead or even thottbot and look at the evis description. It makes sense there.
Evis at WoWhead wrote:
Finishing move that causes damage per combo point:
1 point : [199 + AP * 0.03]-[295 + AP * 0.03] damage
2 points: [350 + AP * 0.06]-[446 + AP * 0.06] damage
3 points: [501 + AP * 0.09]-[597 + AP * 0.09] damage
4 points: [652 + AP * 0.12]-[748 + AP * 0.12] damage
5 points: [803 + AP * 0.15]-[899 + AP * 0.15] damage
1 point : [199 + AP * 0.03]-[295 + AP * 0.03] damage
2 points: [350 + AP * 0.06]-[446 + AP * 0.06] damage
3 points: [501 + AP * 0.09]-[597 + AP * 0.09] damage
4 points: [652 + AP * 0.12]-[748 + AP * 0.12] damage
5 points: [803 + AP * 0.15]-[899 + AP * 0.15] damage
*Note: I picked random ranks so those probably dont add up to the same.
edit: heh didnt see Makaro's post. Glad im not the only one bothered by it.
Edited, Apr 13th 2007 11:04am by KTurner
Am I also the only one who seeing the alla version as more accurate? Try taking away the $ signs with your mind and you'll find out that alla is accounting for the range of damage and not just the average.
If do think it needs to be fixed up a little, this would be better.
Quote:
Finishing move that causes damage per combo point:
1 point : [54~162 + 170 + AP*0.03] - [54~162 + 170 + AP*0.03] damage
2 points: [54~162 + 340 + AP*0.06] - [54~162 + 340 + AP*0.06] damage
3 points: [54~162 + 510 + AP*0.09] - [54~162 + 510 + AP*0.09] damage
4 points: [54~162 + 680 + AP*0.12] - [54~162 + 680 + AP*0.12] damage
5 points: [54~162 + 850 + AP*0.15] - [54~162 + 850 + AP*0.15] damage
1 point : [54~162 + 170 + AP*0.03] - [54~162 + 170 + AP*0.03] damage
2 points: [54~162 + 340 + AP*0.06] - [54~162 + 340 + AP*0.06] damage
3 points: [54~162 + 510 + AP*0.09] - [54~162 + 510 + AP*0.09] damage
4 points: [54~162 + 680 + AP*0.12] - [54~162 + 680 + AP*0.12] damage
5 points: [54~162 + 850 + AP*0.15] - [54~162 + 850 + AP*0.15] damage
Edited, Apr 13th 2007 7:47pm by Deadgye
Dear people I don't like: 凸(â—´―｀â—)凸
No that doesnt make sense and its not just the dollar signs.
it has damage ranges within the damage ranges?
The one i linked from wowhead is how it's calculated. I dunno what all the extra crap is in the alla one.
[minimum damage] - [maximum damage]
Went back to link an example and they fixed it. Still has the dollar signs, but that can be easily ignored.
Thank you.
it has damage ranges within the damage ranges?
The one i linked from wowhead is how it's calculated. I dunno what all the extra crap is in the alla one.
[minimum damage] - [maximum damage]
Went back to link an example and they fixed it. Still has the dollar signs, but that can be easily ignored.
Thank you.
KTurner wrote:
Agreed.
I love WoWhead. Only really come here for the forums.
I love WoWhead. Only really come here for the forums.
Same here.
I don't post much, but in the past I've mostly done so in the quest/tradeskill section, trying to help out other players. These days they get posted as Wowhead comments. So in Alla, I'm mostly reduced to an occasional "forum lurker" now.
Shojindo wrote:
Alla is lucky to have us, wonder how long it can keep on lasting. Sometimes it feels like clinging to remnants of something that is dying.
The forum definitely has a load of wonderful posters. Amazingly so, considering the "IGE taint" factor that has led to slow but undeniable feeling of attrition. So, you might have a point there. I don't know.
bodhisattva wrote:
DF made a shot at worldofwarcraftui while plugging the new Zam.com affiliate MMOI.
Perhaps not the best example but it was one of the ones that came to mind.
Perhaps not the best example but it was one of the ones that came to mind.
No I did not.
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
ohmikeghod the Venerable wrote:
edit: drop down menus would also save tons of bandwidth, and that's also a good thing for Alla as well as the searchers.
Edited, Apr 12th 2007 7:56pm by ohmikeghod
Huh??? How do you figure? All that menu content still has to load, and a javascript driven menu like that would actually take longer to load.
All that's really needed is a list of links to the forums. It's static, and doesn't need any interface with the DB. Even though the most recent post info is useful, it's really redundant, since if someone wants to look at the most recent post it will be at the top of the page. Menu content? Name of forum and a link to it.
Druid
Hunter
Mage
Paladin
Priest
Rogue
Shaman
Warlock
Warrior
That doesn't take up much room.
I think what everyone is trying to say is sites like Thottbot and WoWhead offer there services as a search engine. That's fine and dandy but I personally believe people come here for the communty which thottbot and wowhead obviously don't have much of other then ... Ya I looked up a quest there once or twice. Sure there might be better websites out there. But atleast here admins listen and respect what people say. I mean... Unless you are a complete moron. If I made a sugjestion I would say make the search bar on the main page stand out more. :) Easy graphic adjustment. and BAM! just as good right?
Since we seem to be copying and pasting post from other threads.
First of all, the 2 click "rule" is just a goal to shoot for. It means that the organization of the information is fully optimized. An example? Why isn't there a direct link to instances on the bar to the right?
Without searching try to find what Harbinger Skyriss drops. You can use Bestiary (3 clicks), or Items by Zone (3 clicks). Either way you get to this page
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=21467
Try and find the same information on Wowhead with out searching, wait that how WoWhead works, you have to search to find the information. Why not use the Search here?
Why not use the Search option, it is there to get you to the information as quickly as possible. Not using the search function is just tying your own hands.
I got there in 2 clicks. I simply put Harbinger Skyriss in the search function over on the Left side of the screen, I hit enter, then I clicked on the correct link.
Now on www.wowhead.com it still takes 3 clicks. But after 2 clicks you're given this page which immeadiately gives you a jumping off point 8 related topics (Heroic Drops, Bosses, Comments, NPC's, Objects, Quests, etc.). After the third click you get to this page:
http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=20912
Now this page is far from perfect, but it looks so much cleaner and gives more information up front. The page has a picture first and foremost (I know Allah does that too but for whatever reason we don't have one at this point). It still has the related information "tabs" that allow quick access to more information. It has more information revealed (in this case listing the type of armor/weapon that is dropped and HP/MP text). It has an editorial text box (even if it isn't being used atm) for flavor text or guide information.
I got the same information on Alla by simply searching for The Arcatraz and it got me to this page The Arcatraz then one more click got me to the Mobs in that instance Mob links for The Arcatraz Now it does not break it down into Heroic but I would assume that either I'm doing something wrong or it is in the works.
I don't know, maybe the more I think about it the more I like the tabbed seperation of information. It allows you to offer more information with little extra hassle. I guess I also prefer the clean tables of wowhead vs. the seemingly odd and inconsistent tables of Allah.
Edited, Apr 13th 2007 4:02pm by baelnic
The Tabs on WoW head are exactly like links here on Alla.
Who knows if your looking for something diffrent, go for it but Alla works just fine and it looks great (to me). If you want a change then head out, thats cool but no reason to bash a completly usable Website.
Edited since the copy and paste did not copy everything, strange.
Edited, Apr 14th 2007 2:00pm by Diathon
Grandmother baelnic wrote:
First of all, the 2 click "rule" is just a goal to shoot for. It means that the organization of the information is fully optimized. An example? Why isn't there a direct link to instances on the bar to the right?
Without searching try to find what Harbinger Skyriss drops. You can use Bestiary (3 clicks), or Items by Zone (3 clicks). Either way you get to this page
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=21467
Try and find the same information on Wowhead with out searching, wait that how WoWhead works, you have to search to find the information. Why not use the Search here?
Why not use the Search option, it is there to get you to the information as quickly as possible. Not using the search function is just tying your own hands.
I got there in 2 clicks. I simply put Harbinger Skyriss in the search function over on the Left side of the screen, I hit enter, then I clicked on the correct link.
Grandmother baelnic wrote:
Now on www.wowhead.com it still takes 3 clicks. But after 2 clicks you're given this page which immeadiately gives you a jumping off point 8 related topics (Heroic Drops, Bosses, Comments, NPC's, Objects, Quests, etc.). After the third click you get to this page:
http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=20912
Now this page is far from perfect, but it looks so much cleaner and gives more information up front. The page has a picture first and foremost (I know Allah does that too but for whatever reason we don't have one at this point). It still has the related information "tabs" that allow quick access to more information. It has more information revealed (in this case listing the type of armor/weapon that is dropped and HP/MP text). It has an editorial text box (even if it isn't being used atm) for flavor text or guide information.
I got the same information on Alla by simply searching for The Arcatraz and it got me to this page The Arcatraz then one more click got me to the Mobs in that instance Mob links for The Arcatraz Now it does not break it down into Heroic but I would assume that either I'm doing something wrong or it is in the works.
Grandmother baelnic wrote:
I don't know, maybe the more I think about it the more I like the tabbed seperation of information. It allows you to offer more information with little extra hassle. I guess I also prefer the clean tables of wowhead vs. the seemingly odd and inconsistent tables of Allah.
Edited, Apr 13th 2007 4:02pm by baelnic
The Tabs on WoW head are exactly like links here on Alla.
Who knows if your looking for something diffrent, go for it but Alla works just fine and it looks great (to me). If you want a change then head out, thats cool but no reason to bash a completly usable Website.
Edited since the copy and paste did not copy everything, strange.
Edited, Apr 14th 2007 2:00pm by Diathon
tharghor wrote:
The great thing about wowhead is that there are no crappy comments
ex: "I can craft this horde side darksorrow"
or "hunter loot"x1000
Somehow, the rating system really sucks on alla
ex: "I can craft this horde side darksorrow"
or "hunter loot"x1000
Somehow, the rating system really sucks on alla
There are Comments at Wowhead. It is a tab away. The comment on items here at Alla, simply DON'T read them, but alot of them have very help full information in them.
REGARDLESS ALLAKHAZAM ROCKS GET GET GET GET GET GET ALLAKHAZAM ROCKS
bodhisattva wrote:
On a completely different side note - Quit bashing other sites. They may or may not deserve it.
Then the folks should quit bashing Alla also. If you do not like Alla then post about how you think it could be changed instead of Threads like this.
bodhisattva wrote:
I came to the realization that Wowhead blows them out of the water in terms of Quest info content. Load times, clear and concise information, better maps, better search functions etc.
Dang Alla, get with the times!
Constructive ideas, No
Tactful post, No
A post to stir the pot, Yes
If you want to use another site then please do but, please do not advertise it here. Thanks
Double post, my fault.
Edited, Apr 14th 2007 3:13pm by Diathon
Edited, Apr 14th 2007 3:13pm by Diathon
Baron von Diathon wrote:
Try and find the same information on Wowhead with out searching, wait that how WoWhead works, you have to search to find the information. Why not use the Search here?
Because the search here is crap compared to WoWHead.. or Thottbot even.
Unless you know the exact wording and order of words, the search will look something like this:
Quote:
0 quests found.
0 mobs found.
0 objects found.
0 items found.
0 spells found.
0 mobs found.
0 objects found.
0 items found.
0 spells found.
While both Thottbot and WoWHead will offer close alternatives.
Example:
"cloak shadows" gives 0 results on Allakhazam.
"cloak shadows" gives 3 results on WoWHeader (1 item: Cloak of Veiled Shadows, 1 quest: "Cloak of Veiled Shadows" and 1 ability: Cloak of Shadows).
"cloak shadows" gives 3 results on Thottbot (same as above, plus some database glitches).
I tried to explain this in an earlier thread created by KT, but it drew zero attention from the admins.
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 12:12am by Mazra
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Mazra wrote:
I tried to explain this in an earlier thread created by KT, but it made fUck-all sense to the admins.
Seriously,
1. If WoW DiCk-Head is so great, why don't you just fUck off there?
2. There are a bajillion databases out there (I know of a tricksy one called 'Google' where 'WoW+Cloak+Shadows' will net you a trough of results.)
If I just want raw data I trawl. If I want to research and check out other players' references (context, class issues, semi-relevant observations) there's only one place.
I suggest you and Bhod post on the Ferrari website and rant about how Shit they are at ploughing fields when compared to John Deer.
Dolts
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Mazra wrote:
Baron von Diathon wrote:
Try and find the same information on Wowhead with out searching, wait that how WoWhead works, you have to search to find the information. Why not use the Search here?
Because the search here is crap compared to WoWHead.. or Thottbot even.
Unless you know the exact wording and order of words, the search will look something like this:
Quote:
0 quests found.
0 mobs found.
0 objects found.
0 items found.
0 spells found.
0 mobs found.
0 objects found.
0 items found.
0 spells found.
While both Thottbot and WoWHead will offer close alternatives.
Example:
"cloak shadows" gives 0 results on Allakhazam.
"cloak shadows" gives 3 results on WoWHeader (1 item: Cloak of Veiled Shadows, 1 quest: "Cloak of Veiled Shadows" and 1 ability: Cloak of Shadows).
"cloak shadows" gives 3 results on Thottbot (same as above, plus some database glitches).
I tried to explain this in an earlier thread created by KT, but it drew zero attention from the admins.
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 12:12am by Mazra
Have you tried to redefine your searcha at all ? Like search just for "Shadow" I did and it came up with 34 items and I could scan through them in about 30 seconds and find the level appropiate item I was looking for. It's not that hard to find the information here if you want it. I mean I had to remove ONE word from your search to find the info.
Diathon, of course I tried changing the keywords, but that's not the point. The point is that Allakhazam's search is too damn sensitive. I shouldn't have to change the keywords when I get results the first time I search on the other sites.
This site delivers the same results as the other sites, but you have to put more effort into it. The problem and cold fact is that there's no reason why people would want to put more effort into it. You can't run a site on hugs and kisses, you need the damn thing to perform better than the competitors.
If a person gets results faster and easier on another site, why would he use this site? Right now the site caters to those who've been here for a while. People who look beyond getting results at an optimal speed. People who are willing to try again or wait an extra four seconds, because they are loyal to the site.
And that's great, unless you want to expand.
Nobby, get a grip.
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 2:14am by Mazra
This site delivers the same results as the other sites, but you have to put more effort into it. The problem and cold fact is that there's no reason why people would want to put more effort into it. You can't run a site on hugs and kisses, you need the damn thing to perform better than the competitors.
If a person gets results faster and easier on another site, why would he use this site? Right now the site caters to those who've been here for a while. People who look beyond getting results at an optimal speed. People who are willing to try again or wait an extra four seconds, because they are loyal to the site.
And that's great, unless you want to expand.
Nobby, get a grip.
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 2:14am by Mazra
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
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