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#1 Aug 26 2004 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
PLEASE put an end to this. Yes, I'm still being rated down left-right-and-centre. And I'll give a Smiley: cookie to the first mod who can explain why ANY of my posts in this thread justifies a rate-down. Someone IS chasing me around the site rating me down, and I'm begging you mods to do something about it. I told someone how to back up their macros to S-E's servers and I got rated down for it. Please explain that, or at least tell my doctors to up my dosage so I stop having hallucinations over being chased around, if I am in fact not being camped. But if someone has a vendetta against me for anything I've posted, they need to keep it to the thread I posted whatever offended them in. Otherwise, how am I supposed to continue to use the site?
#2 Aug 26 2004 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
That one fella was trolling you at the end of the night. No doubt about it.
#3 Aug 26 2004 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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Otherwise, how am I supposed to continue to use the site?

Low karma prevents you from using this site? Smiley: eek

#4 Aug 26 2004 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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Only getting a NOPOST flag would stop you from posting on the forums, which would probably be enough to leave. Though I think IPs get banned more often than NOPOSTs handed out.
#5 Aug 26 2004 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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noposts happen more often, but only mainly because one IP tends to have multiple accounts when someone's spamming.

and someone randomly rating you down doesn't effect you really since other people are rating you up. that's how the karma system works. we can't babysit every time someone gets rated down and thinks they don't deserve it. The system sustains itself except in extreme cases, and this isn't one.
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#6 Aug 26 2004 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
So then, it's ok to chase someone around from topic to topic rating them down? It's ok to rate someone down for trying to help someone else? I'm sorry, but that's stupid. In the last 3 days I've gone from almost 4.0 to 3.7something. I can't post ANYTHING without taking a hit. So, I'm supposed to either (a) not care about how fast my karma is falling or (b) never post again, never help anyone again, because if I post I lose karma. I see. Thanks for clearing it up for me.
#7 Aug 26 2004 at 3:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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It is about 10 different people. I checked, there is no indication of sockpuppetry. all 10 people appear to have not only different IP addresses, but significantly different geolocaitons (and none refined back to proxy servers).

people are rating you down, and in some instances it does appear to be someone kamping an entire thread, but aside from that you are not being hit by a single person to a degree that we would consider to be an instance of karma camping. I also used the reverse karma lookup and in most cases the people rating you 1 are not jsut going through and rating everyone they rate a 1. The two instances where they are doing that will be delt with.

or maybe... they were all just pissed off about your ratebot?
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#8 Aug 26 2004 at 3:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Seriously, having an extra account just to rate yourself up doesn't give you much room to talk about being rated down by a bunch of random people.
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#9 Aug 26 2004 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Seriously, having an extra account just to rate yourself up doesn't give you much room to talk about being rated down by a bunch of random people.

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#10 Aug 26 2004 at 5:04 PM Rating: Good
Excuse me? My boyfriend and I both have accounts. I didn't know that was a crime.

You know, I was asking for help. I wasn't asking to be insulted by the mods on this site. I am a HUGE fan of this site and I've found more good useful information here than I care to even think about. But I don't come here to be insulted. I don't care about random rate-downs, people are entitled to rate me based on how they feel about my posts. But I DO care about having someone rate me down for things that aren't justified. Like helping other people. And I expected that the mods of this site would care about a misuse of their karma system. My boyfriend's been rating back up some of my posts but he can't get them all (hence why my rating has bombed). I give a LOT to this website and I think it's fair of me to expect some sort of protection from this sort of thing. Clearly you don't agree. That's fine. But I expect the mods to behave a little more maturely than site users, including not trying to "pwn" me.

Edited, Thu Aug 26 18:06:18 2004 by Saboruto

Edited, Thu Aug 26 18:24:18 2004 by Saboruto
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#12 Aug 26 2004 at 5:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Aha, that would indeed do it. You're getting modded up by your BF because you're together, which is about as relavant as your ratedowns. So it all balances out.

Also, gotta remember, the more someone complains about karma, the more everyone will rate them down. You're already probably noticing this.

Karma is a means to an end, not something to aspire to in itself.
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#13 Aug 26 2004 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
In that case, I apologise for wasting your time. As I said in my first post, no action is necessary if I'm truly not being "camped". I just wasn't expecting quite the reaction I got from the mods on this, but now that you've explained it I appreciate it and understand. Thank you.
#14 Aug 26 2004 at 5:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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reaction was mainly because of the massive amount of complaints we get about karma camping and rating down, when it's only really the case about 5% of the time.

people get all irate when they see themselves get rated down and assume it's camping when it's almost never a targetted thing.

Edited, Thu Aug 26 18:37:35 2004 by Danalog
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#15 Aug 26 2004 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
It's ok, I'm sure being a mod is a stressful-enough job. I didn't mean to spaz and I apologise for it. God knows we're all entitled to be a little ****** once in a while. ^_^
#16 Aug 26 2004 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
kiss a little more ***, it's funny to watch.
#17 Aug 26 2004 at 6:54 PM Rating: Default
hahahaha hot damn i haven't seen that much ownage since gigli.
#19 Aug 26 2004 at 7:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Eh, sometimes. Some of them have a point, but the ones that **** me off no end are the guys that have over 500 posts, get rated down 10 or so times and scream karma camp. (please note i am not refering to anyone in this thread)
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#20 Aug 26 2004 at 7:10 PM Rating: Good
No worries. When it happened last time I didn't approach a mod because (a) I knew who was doing it, (b) it wasn't happening enough to really hit my overall rating and (c) I figured you guys were way too busy to be bothered over something like that (as I assume the mods for the FFXI side of allakhazam also moderate the other divisions of the site, meaning you folks must be busy). But someone suggested I bring it up if it happened again, so I did. I did NOT mean to add to your workload or frustration, so again I apologise. I wouldn't have made a fuss at all if it hadn't taken me from almost-guru to almost-scholar, but it just seemed to be happening too fast and too often to be isolated. And as I said, someone here on the site (don't remember who) had told me to email Kaolian on it if it happened again as the mods "don't like karma campers". So, that's what I did. I haven't been around quite long enough to know what counts as a major violation and what's too minor to put to a mod. But I won't bother you guys with it in the future. ^_^
#21 Aug 26 2004 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
And the lesson for today is that we should all just get along.
#22 Aug 27 2004 at 4:37 AM Rating: Decent
When Crap like that happens just refrain from posting for a bit then everyone forgets and its a happy ending
#23 Aug 27 2004 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
No, refraining from posting isn't the answer. Just post and stop worrying about the karma system. It seems to be pretty consistent in my opinion. When I post a stinker, things drop and when I post a good one things go up. Mainly things stay on track.
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