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#1 Feb 08 2013 at 8:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you think that condensing old servers even more and opening up a few new servers would be a good idea? I believe that what would happen is it would give the servers with maxxed out characters more population with more maxxed out characters to do stuff with. I believe new servers would liven up old zones as everyone would be leveling from scratch.

Worth it? maybe not...
Fun? I think **** yes...

Would you do it? I would(and start on a new server)
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#2 Feb 10 2013 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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I would love to see this and have been talking about it with my friends they liked it too. I actually came to post something similar. I would like to see FFXI reloaded, I don't mean close down any existing servers, but maybe reset a single server for all new accounts. Make it so you can't migrate characters from the old servers to the new. I would like to see FFXI basically relaunched how it was from the release. And they could rerelease the expansions, I could even justifying in buying a new copy if they updated the graphics or at least reskinned some armors and weapons and possible reworked some of the zones just for a slightly fresher look.

I really miss FFXI how it was before the book burns and abyssea, don't get me wrong I do like abyssea, I just miss old school FFXI when the cap was 75 and people leveled in six man groups. I currently don't play but am thinking about coming back to the game when I make it home from my vacation.

I am glad to see me and my friends aren't the only people that would like to see something like this done.
#3 Feb 12 2013 at 8:11 PM Rating: Good
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Cramming more people together, thus having more people to do things with may sound good on paper, but FFXI has basically had a serious issue of congestion problems due to lack of instancing in popular content. Without a serious look into remedying this, I'd argue keeping servers at thinner numbers is more beneficial. However, a means to get people cross-server working together for specific objectives should also be looked into. In effect, people would get warped to the party leader's server temporarily, and once they leave or get removed from the party, are sent back to their home world.
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Seriha wrote:
Cramming more people together, thus having more people to do things with may sound good on paper, but FFXI has basically had a serious issue of congestion problems due to lack of instancing in popular content. Without a serious look into remedying this, I'd argue keeping servers at thinner numbers is more beneficial. However, a means to get people cross-server working together for specific objectives should also be looked into. In effect, people would get warped to the party leader's server temporarily, and once they leave or get removed from the party, are sent back to their home world.


WoW did something similar. They have CRZ (Cross Realm Zone) aswell as LFR/LFG(people from different servers instanced together) and Battlegrounds(People from other servers doing PVP together)

So the technology is there they could do something similar. I agree they could do this and would make alot of people happy.

From my OP I think adding new servers without being able to transfer over would be splended for new people. New economy, new race to be #1, old zones being used again, old quests being done again, people banning togething to progress, dunes partys(maybe), camping old NM's again, no Chinese gil farmers to buy tons of gold from(big awesomeness here)... the list goes on. I for one would love a new server.
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#5 Feb 12 2013 at 11:03 PM Rating: Good
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Last time I played was about a year ago. The servers sizes seemed alright to me. Some of the abyssea spots were a little crowded at times but it wasn't bad. I never really had a hard time getting into leveling alliances. But like I said that was a year ago so I don't know about condensing the servers again.

But I would love to see a FFXI reloaded server so I could relive the old days. I have tried many new and different MMO's and ffxi is always the one that I go back too. I will probably be back on Asura in March when I get home. But I would love to have the opportunity to play FFXI how it was a few years ago on a fresh server. I actually do miss the slow grind up in level. All the new MMO's seem like you can get to top level in a weekend if you push, and I have never had a party leveling experience like the ones I have had in FFXI. After playing newer MMOs one thing I miss most about FFXI is the chat log, I hate the tiny chat window I never pay attention to it half the time so I never really get to know anyone that I don't already know in real life. And I loved that FFXI had it so you really only needed one character to play everything. It allowed our community to establish its heros and villians and everyone has the chance to build a reputation. I don't get that same feel from newer MMOs and I miss it. I hope SE would seriously consider giving us one brand new server, I don't need the updated graphics or anything I'd take FFXI how it is but it would be nice to see some updates to the games look, but I would like the rest of FFXI to stay how it was back a few years ago.
#6 Mar 29 2013 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I have been thinking about this for a long time and I can't believe that someone else thought of the "old school" server idea, too. I think it's wonderful. I quit FFXI about 18 months ago after the "leeching" got out of hand. I made a linkshell on Fairy/Sylph. The main rule in the linkshell was zero leeching. Old school six member party only to level. Period. Until you were 75. People would remove their pearl, go into abyssea as anonymous....and still leech. So my effort was short lived. I just don't see the point in grinding to 90 (or whatever the max level is now) just to get that level number. These players will have no idea how to play their job and have no skills to go with it. When I was still playing, a RDM90 asked me "My healing skill is 20, is that good?" I think that proves my point. I have no problem with Abyssea if it's used appropriately. I think raising the entrance requirement to 75 would stop a lot of the leeching.

Then there are the book burning parties. It is my understanding that people build an alliance, go into Gusgen Mines or somewhere, get the book page, and just run around and kill stuff. Well, that doesn't really teach your class, either. Anyone can just kill something. WHM need to learn to buff, heal, remove ailments, etc. Thieves need to learn how to SATA and/or return hate back to the tank. PLD NIN need to learn how to tank and to keep hate, and the list goes on. Late in my playing, I was healing in a party in Wajoam and the PLD was not provoking except to get it off the fisherman. So we asked why she wasn't provoking. "I'll get hit" was her response. Again, proves my point, doesn't it?

I quit FFXI because I couldn't form six member parties anymore. Most people were in Abyssea leeching. I played FFXI for the fun, camaraderie and knowledge you received from being in a six member party. Sometimes it got crazy when you got a linked mob or if the tank died somehow. But I tell you what. Most of the time it just down right ROCKED. I am the last person to brag, but I knew how to put a party together. But it isn't rocket science, either. And when I couldn't do that anymore, there was not much point to playing.

No offense to SE, but FFXI used to have integrity, and a lot of it. It used to be important, and sometimes difficult, to get the things you needed done to progress your character. Now, people can just grind away xp and get to 90+ without much effort. I just don't see the point in that. I really don't. If you are a SAM90 and have a GK skill of 20 and don't know what the weapon skills are, etc., you aren't going to be much use to anyone. Sure, you can go to different areas and kill things to get your weapon skill up. But there are still no six member parties. What's next SE? Take away the weapon leveling up altogether like WoW did so long ago?

It's not just Abyssea. CoP missions and things like that got a lot easier. I finished CoP the old way, the difficult way, and I was a bit upset when they changed that since people that hadn't done it yet would get it a lot easier than I did. I didn't think it was fair.

Anyway, I would love to see an old school server. I would gladly come back to build some parties.
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#8 Mar 29 2013 at 1:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Meh, even EXPing didn't do much teaching. Endgame (H)NMs and events were basically a different ballgame than just pulling **** (usually the easiest mob families possible) back to a safe camp.

Though, in thinking about it, I can see some appeal in a secluded server with a fresh economy and no transfers. However, I wouldn't limit it to just Zilart or 50 cap. All or nothing. Yes, people may employ the same speed leveling tactics, but a lot of the old gil generating exploits are gone. Fishing would still need a looking at as a bot-friendly activity, but I'm sure legit players would wanna **** about losing a source of NPC gil generation.
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Thing is, for every AMAZING and awesome party I had on that first journey to level 75, there were just as many where I logged off in rage, or blacklisted someone, and walked out with less exp than I came in with because I was surrounded by idiots. For some reason, people tend to forget that getting a decent party was a 50/50 shot.

I think a nostalgia server would require a mandatory IQ test to get me to join up.

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#10 Mar 29 2013 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I think a nostalgia server would require a mandatory IQ test to get me to join up.


When they see you can't spam ws damage and need to focus on the fight, everyone that thinks they can sit and leech or just half **** it will delete their character on the server. Weed themselves out.
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