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#1 Oct 19 2011 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Orison Bliaud +1: has refresh
Goetia Coat +1: has refresh
Estoqueur's Sayon +1: has refresh
Savant's Gown +1: no refresh
Savant's Gown +2: has refresh

Why does SCH need to upgrade to the +2 body to get refresh while the other 3 mages get it on their +1 version? Please put refresh on Savant's Gown +1 as well.
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#2 Oct 19 2011 at 4:07 PM Rating: Default
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All of those bodies go from +1 to +2 refresh when upgraded. It makes sense that the sch body starts out at 0 and then goes to 1.
#3 Oct 19 2011 at 7:13 PM Rating: Good
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All of those bodies go from +1 to +2 refresh when upgraded. It makes sense that the sch body starts out at 0 and then goes to 1.


Mavi Mintan +1 (BLU body) has no refresh.
Mavi Mintan +2 has 2/tic.

I don't see why they can't make all of these consistent. Really feels like an oversight occurred here.
#4 Oct 19 2011 at 7:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Dantedmc wrote:
All of those bodies go from +1 to +2 refresh when upgraded. It makes sense that the sch body starts out at 0 and then goes to 1.


If you're a SCH, it doesn't make any kind of sense at all.
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#5 Oct 19 2011 at 8:04 PM Rating: Default
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The sch body doesn't go 0 to 2 though. The blu body is the one that seems out of place. I suspect Sch didn't get more refresh because it already gets 8 base sublimation at
95 + the tons of other refresh / sublimation gear. Sch already has gear that can give 10 sublimation and 5 refresh or 9 sublimation and 6 refresh not that mp efficiency is a concern for any mage atm.
#6 Oct 20 2011 at 12:00 AM Rating: Good
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The sch body doesn't go 0 to 2 though. The blu body is the one that seems out of place. I suspect Sch didn't get more refresh because it already gets 8 base sublimation at
95 + the tons of other refresh / sublimation gear. Sch already has gear that can give 10 sublimation and 5 refresh or 9 sublimation and 6 refresh not that mp efficiency is a concern for any mage atm.

RDM isn't exactly hurting for MP either, and yet it gets refresh on +1 body.
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#7 Oct 23 2011 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Every mp-using job (bar PLD and DRK, which aren't true mages, anyways) got a refresh +1 body which upgraded to a refresh +2 body. The only other exceptions are SMN, which got this on the head piece instead, and BLU, which went from 0-2 instead of 1-2.

I don't see any reason SCH shouldn't get the normal 1-2 refresh bodies. At the very least, it should go from 0-2 like BLU.

Saying a SCH shouldn't get refresh +2 because it has sublimation gear is like saying RDM shouldn't get it because it can cast Refresh II, BLM and BLU shouldn't get it because they have new gear to use for Aspir, SMN shouldn't get it because it has other -perp gear and Siphon gear, etc. In other words, the only job that would get the refresh +2 body is WHM, because for some reason SE never gave it any native mp-recovery.

Although, if WHM got the only Cure V and the only refresh +2 body, I'm pretty sure RDMs and SCHs would murder SE employees in their sleep, so it's probably best for everyone to just give all mage jobs refresh +2 bodies, regardless of their current mp situation.

Edited, Oct 23rd 2011 2:57pm by RizzoRazzle
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#8 Dec 31 2011 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll put my name to this too. I like Refresh.
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