Most of us are not saying "hand me my scrolls SE." We are only saying that the drop rate is too low. I have absolutely no problem with working for my scrolls. I farmed the majority of my AM and Tier IV spells. I quested retrace, sleepga II, aspir, drain, etc etc.
I cannot play everyday/all day because, like many others, I have a family and a job. When the new scrolls were introduced, I would do 2-3 runs each night after work. If I could have done more, I would have. On the weekends I pretty much lived in WoE doing a run every game day change. My social shell is not going to drop everything they are doing to come spam WoE so the I can get my scrolls. They are currently working on empy's for a few people and that is the only time I left WoE during the first 3 weeks after the update.
In all the time I was in there, I got 2 scrolls total; Curaga V and Holy II. You can't tell me that 2 scrolls in 3 weeks is "less work" than an empy when you can realistically pump one out in a weekend.
I agree that Comet should be more difficult to obtain, simply because it is an "ultimate" spell. But all tier V scrolls were purchased from a NPC and then boom, Thunder V is from VW, HKCNM, or WoE. This is not consistent with the others and it is not an "ultimate" spell.
Here's what I think-- Black Mage at the moment is one of the most useful mage jobs and to boot.. possibly the most exceptional damage dealer. This is probably without these spells--some (Blizzaja i've seen and Thunder V i've heard about) which are even better than the old ones. You're paying to stay on top, except unlike a ranger (which isn't exactly on top but has come closer outside of abyssea) it is a permanent stay once you get there, instead of paying 200k for top tier ammo. (Ruszor arrows)
As for this comment, my ToTM staves say hi!
Oh i'd wave right back to them and smile. Abyssea may have made the game ludricously easy, but at least most empyreans have to be duo'd to a minimum. To be honest--The damage versus an empyrean, relic or even a Walk of Echoes weapon (the latter of which I have 3 of due to time constraints of my own) are such a step ahead of the older weapons that I can't see them becoming anything but the bare minimum with increasingly harder content.
Try any monk without Victory Smite or a 90-95 Spharai, compared to one who does for some of these tougher monsters, the difference is absolute and you still require a person who is willing to be there painstakingly for you to help you (or a dualboxed white mage minimum).
At least magian staffs can be soloed all the way through without help, shout, a bf, gf, or an extra laptop/game system. Annoying yes? Realistically soloed little by little even on a busy schedule? Yep. Thats not exclusive to mages either, a good Bst could argue that they'd have to do 2x (for each type, pet pdt-, fire path, double attack axe) and an empyrean to boot.
I agree that the spells are very nice, I wouldn't even mind if the drop rate was increased, i'm saying that there are several ways to obtain the spells. At early 75 (to 85 cap) Byakko's Haidate was the creme de la creme for a lot of melee, you were called gimp without it and the only way to get this excellent piece of haste gear was to join a sky ls and put up with annoying people for weeks, then do a point bid war. This is merely "close" to that difficulty. (It really isn't, byakko's haidate couldn't be bought)
All in all i'm not saying I would mind if the drop rate were increased although I am glad I don't see every black mage spamming comet and saying "Look at me!!! OMG SO AWESOME" every five seconds-- but I do think its realistic to obtain at a stage of ffxi where most of the gear/spells are free or found in gold pyxides.
No one is even calling you gimp or ineffective without these spells, they're trinkets for the most part. All in all it comes to a difference of opinion and mine is that the way things are now is fine in most cases and if they make the droprate "somewhat" higher, that'd be fine too. Edited, Oct 28th 2011 12:15pm by Thelastremainingintime