About the almost non-existant supply of AlexandritesFollow

So this is the deal: a group of friends of mine (4 ppl icluding me) are currently working our way to get a mythic weapon.
Since Abyssea and AF3 armor has come out, the interest for salvage gear has been growing less and less since most of the Af3 surpasses salvage sets.

So do all the assaults, get captain, complete all the assaults AGAIN, kill Toau bosses, get odin, 150k ampoulles, 100k nyzul tokens, ZNM thophies AND 30.000 alexandrites.
As if it wasn't difficult before abyssea to get 30.000 ****** alexandrites for that stupid rat...

Now with the lack of people doing salvage, even with the minimum person required to entry, etc., the influx of alexandrite is just non-existant.
So imagine trying to get 120k of those...

I was hoping that this update will allow for salvage gear to be updated by doing trials or something so that make ppl get interested in doing that event again.
I even went rushing to abyssea Uluguerand hoping those gears mobs will drop atleast 1 alxandrite once in a while, what a dissapointment! U_U

Dear SE, please make some influx, even if its a small one, having like 15 alexandrites per salvage run is just discouraging.

And before anyone butts in saying "why you want a mythic anyways, etc etc" I would like to finish mine as I'm sure theres other people there wanting to finish their relics even if they are not the best of all anymore.

Thanks for reading (tried to not make a wall of text)

Still say the Alexandrite requirement needs to be scrapped altogether. If SE's worried about Mythics flooding the game, keep in mind that Einherjar, Assault, and Nyzul requirements put a bare minimum time needed to create a Mythic even if you can "skip" the title steps from a previous weapon.

Considering that all the other requirements for the first two mythics quests, though steep and time consuming, could be done as a party, I was blown away with shock about the whole Alexandrites thing. I still am a bit, honestly. I just really don't know what the hell they were thinking from day one.

I guess your time isn't worth anything.

Make all salvage NMs have 100% drop purse (they all don't have it) as well as the Chariot, and set them to a much higher amount, either max, or 10-20 and 75-100. Also, have all chariot type mobs in abyssea drop 100% linen purses as well, and also have the gears drop single alexandrite. With this, I think you could leave the 30k requirement.

While you're at it, either get rid of the gil cost for einherjar lamps, or increase the amount of ichor gained drastically. Theres NO reason (to my knowledge anyway) to do it besides wlegs, then just go do kirin for free. 2-5k ichor a week is horrible, that's 20 to 50 weeks, towards the latter being more true, with 360k gil each week. It's retarded, you also apparently need a minimum of 6 people to enter, so you're still stuck finding people to do it, and honestly, getting to Nashmau will probably throw friends off the most, not the 30 min fight, but @#%^ing wasting time going from Port Jeuno to Nashmau.

That works too, as long as people will do it. I'm trying to con my ls into 6 manning it for me, me paying the lamp 2x a week. Trying to get them to think of it as my empyrean weapon!

Salvage cost has been reduced to 500 AP, so that cuts time by two-third. One a SINGLE weapon...
Lowering final armor piece costs might have helped before, but only if people were still interested in doing salvage.

The alexandrite requirement (especially for multiple people) can only be meet in any reasonable time by having a server full of people doing it. Before Abyssea, salvage armor was one of the main attractions. Notorious difficult to obtain due to low droprates of pieces, it ensured people kept coming back.

Then came abyssea... one of the best pieces of armor is now a side-grade to gear that is peanuts to obtain (compared to salvage.) Salvage is all but dead, alexandrites no longer available.

Unless SE pimps salvage gear up to lvl 90 standards via salvage magian trials (and thus brings in more alexandrites), new mythic weapons will only be obtained through mog bonanza.

What reason is there to upgrade mythics in the first place these days? Even before the empyreans they weren't worth it.



Edited, Jan 19th 2011 6:19am by Lobivopis

Removal of arguably ridiculous tedium is not the same as dumbing down.

Buy 1 alexandrite for 200 Cruor?
That's 6 mil cruor for 30k alexandrite.

Would this be a bad idea?

It would give me something to use curor on besides brews and buffs.

I don't know about buying Alex with cruor or BCNMS or whatever but I just think that with the influx of mobs that are gear type (those gears in ulu and all those chariots NMs SE can make them drop a purse on NMs *damn this has been already said in the thread :P* or single alex maybe on gears normal mobs like in salv?).
Sounds quite reasonable for me :/

Even if gears get camped a lot for ppl just wanting to make money, it doesnt really matter that much in comparison to the options we have mythic upgraders at the moment which is : Salvage, salvage and more salvage.

Also putting a minimum of Alex to trade and then do trials is another option I wouldnt mind having to do that at all.

I'm working on a Yagrush (whm) despite opinions I still think is a good asset for any whm out here <.<
And I think mythics weapons has enough requirements previous alexandrite stage for everyone to agree that it can't be done "in a day or two".

Thanks everyone for the answers, lots of ideas you all gave to SE to try to improve that. Very appreciated :)

Yeah, as a returning player starting from scratch it would be nice to see these weapons made a little less insane. I mean, years to get a weapon that is outclassed by ones that can be gotten more easily? Don't make this gear impossible to get!

It has also opened up the possibility of effectively doing both Salvage and Nyzul. You can use one assault tag every 3 days for that 1500 AP, and that covers your Salvage entry. The other two tags every 3 days can be used for Nyzul.

I believe you meant items when you said content. Because there is a very little difference of killing a horde of monsters in campaign, or killing a horde of monsters in Abyssea. It is a very little difference of killing Tiamat, or killing a wyrm in Abyssea. Overall Abyssea is the same as the rest of the game, except the waiting time.

I do however agree that Salvage was different. It was WORSE than the rest of the game. I'm glad they didn't add nude zones to Abyssea where you couldn't wear armors to match Salvage times.

Even back in salvage's heyday there weren't any available. 10-15 a run is stupid. You'd often kill everything that drops them and still get only the coin purse off the chariot.

Make it so you get 500 or so a run, and the requirements would be more acceptable. If getting 300 ancient currency a run in dynamis is acceptable when you need 20k~ ancient currency for a relic, you should probably get MORE than 300 alexandrite with a 30k requirement. Especially since there's other requirements beside the alexandrites.

There are still mythic weapons that have never been finished on any server. (aymur for instance.) There obviously wasn't enough of the little bastards.