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#1 Aug 28 2007 at 5:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Gamers unite!

Do you know someone with a mind-afflicting disease? A body-wrecking Cancer? Feel powerless to help them? Here's your chance...

Since October 2000, Stanford University has an application that you can partake in called Folding@Home. Over one million CPUs throughout the world have participated in this distributed computing project. The goal of this project is to research protein folding and misfolding to gain an understanding of how these are related to disease. See F@H's Executive Summary, in PDF, here.

Targeted diseases include (but are not limited to) such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers and cancer-related syndromes.

It's a small application that runs in the background of your computer (XP/Vista/Linux/MacOSX) or as a stand alone program on your home console, the Playstation 3.

I've started a Team for the members of Allakhazam called Allakhazam's Magical Research Realm (Team# 85020). Team Statistics: Please allow 3 to 24 hours to populate.

Simply download Folding@Home and join the team: To join, just put the team's number in the configuration panel (on graphical clients) or enter the team number at the first time you run the client (for text console versions).

You can view our weekly status here at Overclocking.com
A very nifty site for tracking everyones process. We've made great leaps and bounds since our inception.

Via Technobob in the FFXI Forums wrote:
For those who would like to run the console version, you can configure it to run as a service on system startup, IIRC, you can set up F@H on it's first run, but if it doesn't, you can do the following:

For Windows users, create a shortcut of the executable file in the same folder, right client on that shortcut, and in the target field, add a -config at the end. it should look like "C:\...\Folding@Home\Fah5xx-Console.exe" -config (My path is "C:\Program Files\Folding@Home\Fah504-Console.exe" -config), Then hit apply. Then, click on the shortcut to open the file, you SHOULD have the client asking you to set the options, first one being your User name. set this as the name you wish to fold under.

I will use these settings as an example.

User name: User
Team Number: 85020
Launch Program automatically as a service: Yes
Ask before fetching/sending work: No
Use internet explorer settings: No
Use Proxy: No (but if you use one, then yes)
Allow receipt of work assignments and return of work results greater than 5 MB in size (such WU's may have large memory demands): No
Change advanced options: No

If you do not see this list of options, then I can see if I can find a link to a guide, and post that, but following those instructions should hopefully be sufficient for the average folder, and the next time you boot into Windows, it should start automatically, and run quietly in the background.

I'm not sure how to configure this for Linux, but there are several guide on google for that.


Who knows, the life you help save, could be your own.


Edited, Jan 8th 2008 1:27pm by Kaelesh
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#2 Aug 28 2007 at 5:59 AM Rating: Good
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Hang on, I'm a bit confused...


We download the program, and it runs in the backround doing what? Runs tests and possibilities for the diseases and stuff?
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#4 Aug 28 2007 at 6:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Alright, who hacked your account?
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#5 Aug 28 2007 at 6:02 AM Rating: Good
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Alright, who hacked your account?


Nobody man but every little bit helps right? I've had a grandfather die of Alzheimer's and another die from Cancer. Why wouldn't I use a computer or my PS3 to help research these diseases?

Edited, Aug 28th 2007 9:07am by Kaelesh
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Joined. My gaming PC is running it since I never use it anymore. I don't wanna bother with the linux install if it. Since it's a pain in the ass. I will later though. I got a few boxes I can install it on.
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Edited, Aug 28th 2007 9:08am by Kaelesh
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I been meaning to for awhile now. But atleast I can contribute to the Alla community or something like that...

I forgot what I used as my account name before or I would add in the sh*t assloads of blocks I had from that account.

Now Kaelesh Just keep a list of the top contributers in your jernal. And we can have a competition.

Edited, Aug 28th 2007 10:10am by nLoD
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#9 Aug 28 2007 at 6:11 AM Rating: Default
SETI@home is for a better cause! Which would you rather have, a alien death ray or sissy little cancer? That's right...
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SETI@home is for a better cause! Which would you rather have, a alien death ray or sissy little cancer? That's right...


Chances are you're going to need this research before most of us Hellboi. Ever heard of a little thing called Diabetes?
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SETI@home is for a better cause! Aliens could prolly cure all those illnesses! 2 Birds 1 Stone etc. That's right...
FTFY
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Now Kaelesh Just keep a list of the top contributers in your jernal. And we can have a competition.


I will try.
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Kaelesh wrote:
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SETI@home is for a better cause! Which would you rather have, a alien death ray or sissy little cancer? That's right...


Chances are you're going to need this research before most of us Hellboi. Ever heard of a little thing called Diabetes?
Smiley: lol My almost entire vegetarian diet and not drinking any soda (When I did drink soda it was always diet) causes diabetes :( I guess I'm screwed then...
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Kaelesh wrote:
Hellboy the Meaningless wrote:
SETI@home is for a better cause! Which would you rather have, a alien death ray or sissy little cancer? That's right...


Chances are you're going to need this research before most of us Hellboi. Ever heard of a little thing called Diabetes?
Smiley: lol My almost entire vegetarian diet and not drinking any soda (When I did drink soda it was always diet) causes diabetes :( I guess I'm screwed then...


Yea, you being overweight has nothing to do with it.
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#16 Aug 28 2007 at 6:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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well wish i knew what team number to join when i started using folding years ago. have been running folding@home for almost 4 years now.

i run it on EVERY computer i own.
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Singdall wrote:
well wish i knew what team number to join when i started using folding years ago. have been running folding@home for almost 4 years now.

i run it on EVERY computer i own.


Sing, you can still join the Team. Come on over.
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if i knew how to join a team once i have the CLI vs installed and the OSx vs running i would.
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Singdall wrote:
if i knew how to join a team once i have the CLI vs installed and the OSx vs running i would.


To join, just put the team's number in the configuration panel (on graphical clients) or enter the team number at the first time you run the client (for text console versions).

I would recommend reading the many FAQS they have.
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Folding@Home is the first program I downloaded for my PS3 when I got it. I'll be joining the team tonight when I get home.
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When I get home, I'll see about installing this on one of the linux machines. :)
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looks like i can not. as i have already run folding for the first time years ago on all of my machines. i run CLI only and as i do not have windows except to play games and i do not run folding while gaming, oh well.

at least my folds are still out there and working for a good cause.
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When I get home, I'll see about installing this on one of the linux machines. :)


it is supper easy to install and just runs and runs in the back ground. do keep in mind that if your linux box is old hardware it will bog down a ton.
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Folding@Home is the first program I downloaded for my PS3 when I got it. I'll be joining the team tonight when I get home.


Yup, as soon as I get home.

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Singdall wrote:
looks like i can not. as i have already run folding for the first time years ago on all of my machines. i run CLI only and as i do not have windows except to play games and i do not run folding while gaming, oh well.

at least my folds are still out there and working for a good cause.


Sing, just right click on your F@H select Configure and enter your team number 85020 and thats it. Nothing to it.
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Singdall wrote:
looks like i can not. as i have already run folding for the first time years ago on all of my machines. i run CLI only and as i do not have windows except to play games and i do not run folding while gaming, oh well.

at least my folds are still out there and working for a good cause.


Sing, just right click on your F@H select Configure and enter your team number 85020 and thats it. Nothing to it.


sorry to say, but i am running Linux here. there is NO F@H icon to click on like there is in windows. i run the command line interface (CLI) vs on Linux. now at the schools with the MACs i should be able to join the team, but not from the house.
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I'm in. I'll run it on my laptop at work for a few days. If nothing breaks and I don't see any weird traffic, I'll throw it on the secondary servers here at work.
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I'm in. I'll run it on my laptop at work for a few days. If nothing breaks and I don't see any weird traffic, I'll throw it on the secondary servers here at work.


Sweets.

@Sing: Oh, well, ok.
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I'm in. I'll run it on my laptop at work for a few days. If nothing breaks and I don't see any weird traffic, I'll throw it on the secondary servers here at work.


the more people that help the better. the folding team has already helped in several cures since it started.

hmm at maximum performance i have 5 comps at home running and then the 2 school comps. currently i am down to only 2 comps at the house running due to old bad failing hardware.

my laptop runs 24/7 and is the slowest of my computers, my workstation (coming to you from here now) runs about 80% of the time. the only time i stop folding on this rig is to do my video editing so about 2 times per month and if i want to play any game other then WoW that i have like CNC3 or Overlord.

both the school comps run folding with the Intel vs running 24/7 and the G5 only running with the screen saver so it has cut back a lot now that i am using it to double as a TV for my window display to attract more students from the local area.
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Singdall wrote:
sorry to say, but i am running Linux here. there is NO F@H icon to click on like there is in windows. i run the command line interface (CLI) vs on Linux. now at the schools with the MACs i should be able to join the team, but not from the house.


RTFM Noob.

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First time You run FAH client it will ask You a couple of configuration parameters:

User name [Anonymous]?
Team Number[0]?
Ask before fetching/sending work [no]?
Use proxy [no]?
Allow receipt of work assignments and return of work results greater than
5MB in size (such work units may have large memory demands) (no/yes) [no]?
Change advanced options [no] (yes/no)?

Note: To change the configuration later, You must run the client with -config (or -configonly) switch:

cd /folding
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My roommate runs that on the PS3 non-stop(unless he's playing it). It eats up a **** of a lot of bandwidth when it uploads data and has gotten me killed in WoW on multiple occasions due to lag spikes.
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Like that other program from SETI (?) but only for diseases! OK, I'll put this on my laptop. I think my employer would have issues if I did this at work.
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sorry to say, but i am running Linux here. there is NO F@H icon to click on like there is in windows. i run the command line interface (CLI) vs on Linux. now at the schools with the MACs i should be able to join the team, but not from the house.


RTFM Noob.

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First time You run FAH client it will ask You a couple of configuration parameters:

User name [Anonymous]?
Team Number[0]?
Ask before fetching/sending work [no]?
Use proxy [no]?
Allow receipt of work assignments and return of work results greater than
5MB in size (such work units may have large memory demands) (no/yes) [no]?
Change advanced options [no] (yes/no)?

Note: To change the configuration later, You must run the client with -config (or -configonly) switch:

cd /folding
./FAH502-Linux.exe -config


sweet just changed it.
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Not so fast. Wait thirty years or so till my generation is ready to retire. All that cancer and dementia is going to create tons of jobs as baby-boomers' bodies break down under the scourge of old age. Curing cancer and/or Alzheimer's now could mean the destruction of our society.
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You're all heart BT. Smiley: lol
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I know, right?

Actually, I just joined. I am so gonna kick you guys' asses this season.
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kaelesh, change your folding team link in your sig to the team stat page?
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Done and done.

Thanks for joining BT.
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Updated the Team Page with an Alla logo!
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My WU end is December 10th Smiley: confused

Is it supposed to take that long per whatever thingamajig?
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Hehe, twice now I've set up F@H only to forget about it many weeks down the road. Hopefully I'll manage to remember to keep it running this time around. Smiley: tongue
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Is it supposed to take that long per whatever thingamajig?


It tends to go quite a bit faster when you leave your computer unattended and just let it hog all of the resources.
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My WU end is December 10th Smiley: confused

Is it supposed to take that long per whatever thingamajig?


No, Shouldn't take more then a week or so to complete one. Atleast, that's what mine says. Check your configuration.
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My WU end is December 10th Smiley: confused

Is it supposed to take that long per whatever thingamajig?


depends on a lot of things. like the size of the packet you are working on and the power of your computer, plus how much time (CPU/GPU) you give it to run uninterupted.


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Hehe, twice now I've set up F@H only to forget about it many weeks down the road. Hopefully I'll manage to remember to keep it running this time around. Smiley: tongue


set it to run in the background or set it to run as your screen saver. you can also set it to run on startup if you are running windows or OSx it is a simple click box.

for the most part i can do 1 - 2 WU per week on my workstation and between 1 - .05 per week on my laptop. the most i have done on my workstation in a week is 4.
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Hmmm.. everything seems to be running just fine. I'll just assume it's the POS work PC. I have craploads of background apps running at all times.

Is everyone else working on p3040_supervillin-03 GROMACS core?
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most people will be on their own core. neither of my rigs are running that core atm.
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most people will be on their own core. neither of my rigs are running that core atm.


Ahhh, mkay. I thought maybe a team worked on a core together Smiley: frown

My core's way more advanced and awesome than all of your cores. Bitches!

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in short it is no different then seti so far as the "blocks" you get. each computer gets what ever block is next on the list. so lets say you have 1,000,000,000,000 blocks to distribute daily but you only have 10,000 computers asking for blocks daily.

so comp 1 gets block 1, but comp 2 may get block 4 or 5 depending on how fast he put in his request after finishing his last block.

at least that is how i understand it to work. the F@H page will have much greater detail, but that is close enough.

as for the team stats they take all of the computers in a team, total up the number of WU completed in a set amount of time, then calculate how much time was spent on each WU to provide a score. that is how the ranking goes.

http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-points.html

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Introduction. Much of what drives distributed computing is the sense of collegiate competition to compute the most for the project as possible. One way to quantitatively assess this is through the points that FAH keeps track of (in our statistics or "stats" pages). Here, we detail the nature of how our points are determined and why that method is used. There are lots of methods one could use, but we've found that over time (and with extensive discussions with Folding@Home donors) that our current method is a reasonable compromise, given all the complexity of awarding points for Folding@Home work units.

How do you decide how much credit a work unit is worth? Points are determined by the performance of a given machine relative to a becnhmark machine. Before putting out any new work unit, we benchmark it on a dedicated 2.8GHz Pentium 4 machine with SSE2 disabled (more specifically, as reported by /proc/cpuinfo on linux: vendor_id : GenuineIntel, cpu family : 15, model : 2, model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz, stepping : 9, cpu MHz : 2806.438, cache size : 512 KB). This machine runs linux, so all WUs are benchmarked with the linux core.

We plug the results of this into the following formula:

points = 110 * (daysPerWU)

where daysPerWU is the number of days it took to complete the unit. This equation was chosen to match the points for previous Gromacs WUs to the previous point system. The upshot is that Tinker WUs will be worth more than before we set up the new points (i.e. before April 2004).

Please note that the very concept of a reference machine will mean that some WU benchmarking will vary from the performance on your machine. Even between P4s, there are significant differences in architectures over the years. Moreover, variations between FAH WUs can also lead to differences in benchmarking points.

Our goal is consistency within a given definition of a reference machine setup (described above), but beyond that the natural variation from machine to machine and WU to WU will never allow any point system to perfectly reflect what you get on your machine.



Why are some projects given significantly more points than others? Certain projects require substantially more donor computer resources than others, either in terms of more disk space, more network transfer, or more RAM used. By default, these work units are given out to clients which opt in to request them. To reward those donors for donating resources beyond the typical client, we currently give bonus points for these larger work units.



How big are bonus points? Currently the bonus points are a 50% increase over the standard benchmark point determination (described above). Please note that this value is subject to change.



How do I configure my client to get bonus point WUs? Please see our configuration FAQ for these details.



Is there any risk of taking on bonus point work units? These work units are larger and more experimental: for example, they often involve new cores, such as the QMD core. Thus, they are more experimental. Thus, one should not run big work unit clients on non-dedicated machines. The bonus points are a reward for giving more resources to FAH and so one should not be surprised that these work units are very intrusive and take the complete resources of the machine.



Why can't AMD machines get QMD WUs, which have large points? Please check out the FAQ on the QMD core. We describe in great detail the situation regarding AMD chips and the QMD core. This situation is present only in QMD WUs, which represents a very small part of FAH.


so that is how the points work.
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smiles** id give ya one for this thread, but still cant rate atm... maybe someday again.

also just an FYI, IIRC they do the team point updates either weekly or monthly. i forgot as i have not looked into that in a long time. just think how many computers we could have access to with say 50% of allakhazam posters participating.
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