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#252 Aug 30 2013 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
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#253 Aug 30 2013 at 9:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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In that large number of homosexual suicides, how many of them killed themselves solely because of their sexuality that did NOT include any negative social influence, i.e. ridicule, but had a loving family and friend environment.
Yeah, and in walk the collaborations with sociologists. But I got the impression that that was one of the differences with GID. Even if you take away the social factors there's still a problem. But anywho, we've been down that road once or twice before.

As for funding, we're very much for hire. I was joking with lolgaxe earlier, but literally anyone who can pay for our services we can do work for. There's a lot of private funding out there, and the era where the government could influence much of what was researched is basically over. A lot of our funding comes from private donations. People have a loved one die from cancer, so they donate money to cancer research and so on and so forth. A couple decades ago the hospital where I work got something like 80% of it's funding from the state, these days it's in the single digits. It's a mixed blessing.
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#254 Aug 30 2013 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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#256 Aug 30 2013 at 5:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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There's a lot of private funding out there


That's why ethics is so important. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume people are willing to pay when you present them the results that they want.
They pay when the get the data they requested, whether or not they like the results or how happy they are to get them varies from project to project; hourly billing is hourly for the most part.

The only time they wouldn't pay is if we screwed something up and ruined their samples to the point they couldn't get data. TBH half the time we don't really know what the project is about though. They give us a vial of protein, we give them back a list of what's in it, that kind of thing. Out of the thousand odd billings we've done we've only ever had problem collecting on maybe 4 or 5 of them? Something like that. It's not usually a problem.

As far as unethical, the biggest problem would be someone misinterpreting the results, or seeing something there that isn't. We can give them our interpretation, tell them about all sorts of statistics, but there are a few people out there that will latch on to any lead they like no matter how little the data actually supports it. Really though, they're the ones that don't come back anyway, it's pretty obvious when a researcher is grasping at straws... Smiley: lol

Edited, Aug 30th 2013 4:03pm by someproteinguy
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#257 Aug 30 2013 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
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As far as unethical, the biggest problem would be someone misinterpreting the results, or seeing something there that isn't. We can give them our interpretation, tell them about all sorts of statistics, but there are a few people out there that will latch on to any lead they like no matter how little the data actually supports it. Really though, they're the ones that don't come back anyway, it's pretty obvious when a researcher is grasping at straws..


Yes, just like movies on opening weekends. A movie can be mediocre, but the commercial will say "Best action-romance between 2010-2012 starring an Asian over 40 during the Spring months".

Edited, Aug 31st 2013 1:34am by Almalieque
#258 Aug 30 2013 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
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As far as unethical, the biggest problem would be someone misinterpreting the results, or seeing something there that isn't. We can give them our interpretation, tell them about all sorts of statistics, but there are a few people out there that will latch on to any lead they like no matter how little the data actually supports it. Really though, they're the ones that don't come back anyway, it's pretty obvious when a researcher is grasping at straws..


Yes, just like when movies on opening weekends. A movie can be mediocre, but the commercial will say "Best action-romance between 2010-2012 starring an Asian over 40 during the Spring months".

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#259 Sep 02 2013 at 4:06 PM Rating: Good
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We can give them our interpretation, tell them about all sorts of statistics, but there are a few people out there that will latch on to any lead they like no matter how little the data actually supports it.


You don't say.
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#260 Sep 03 2013 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
They give us a vial of protein, we give them back a list of what's in it, that kind of thing.
Expect a couple of vials in the mail, if you know what I mean.
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#261 Sep 03 2013 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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We can give them our interpretation, tell them about all sorts of statistics, but there are a few people out there that will latch on to any lead they like no matter how little the data actually supports it.


You don't say.


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